Perotti, or more than Elijah. According calciomercato.it Juventus subtrack would work to bring it to Turin Manuerl Juan Vargas (27), outside under the Peruvian Fiorentina in the next few hours there will be a new contact between Beppe Marotta and Pantaleo Corvino, perhaps the final one, which could open the transfer of the wing of Lima to the court of Count Antonio. The CEO Juventus is ready to offer 15 million in cash, without any technical counterpart. The smash left wing in the Juve finally seems to have reached the epilogue.

do it marotta

exactly some of the things I hate Marotta for, signing Vargas for 15$m, an out of form player, almost 28, when prospects cost cheaper and are better, flame me all you want but Vargas would end up Martinez 2.0.......

elmystique wrote:exactly some of the things I hate Marotta for, signing Vargas for 15$m, an out of form player, almost 28, when prospects cost cheaper and are better, flame me all you want but Vargas would end up Martinez 2.0.......

and what i ahte is consistant bashing marotta ...vargas out of form ?? he was the best LWST in the coppa and every said that ....he is what we need

DeviAngel wrote:

elmystique wrote:exactly some of the things I hate Marotta for, signing Vargas for 15$m, an out of form player, almost 28, when prospects cost cheaper and are better, flame me all you want but Vargas would end up Martinez 2.0.......

and what i ahte is consistant bashing marotta ...vargas out of form ?? he was the best LWST in the coppa and every said that ....he is what we need

28

> didn't do sh*t last season

> $15m

> Perroti, Elia, Hazard and more who are of a higher standard or offer better prospects......

I just want this LW saga to be over with this summer. It's been going on far too long.

I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

elmystique wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

elmystique wrote:exactly some of the things I hate Marotta for, signing Vargas for 15$m, an out of form player, almost 28, when prospects cost cheaper and are better, flame me all you want but Vargas would end up Martinez 2.0.......

and what i ahte is consistant bashing marotta ...vargas out of form ?? he was the best LWST in the coppa and every said that ....he is what we need

28

> didn't do sh*t last season

> $15m

> Perroti, Elia, Hazard and more who are of a higher standard or offer better prospects......

I think I would go with Vargas over Perotti and Elia. Those two don't impress me. Hazard simply isn't for sale or, at least, Juve can't afford him. I could see him going to Arsenal after all of their sales.

Luca wrote:I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

Martinez was leading Catania wherever, was supposed to be the "Messiah" where did he lead us?

you'll see where we will get with this "New Messiah"

elmystique wrote:

Luca wrote:I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

Martinez was leading Catania wherever, was supposed to be the "Messiah" where did he lead us?

you'll see where we will get with this "New Messiah"

Sorry, there is definitely a big difference in class between them.
I don't even like Vargas but he is definitely better than Martinez.
I also like the other names you listed, Perotti/Elia have the potential to be better and are around the same price. Hazard is already better but nearly twice the price odds are and he won't move at this time as he has no reason to.

Vargas on one leg is better than Martinez but I don't want either at Juventus.

Oh, and one player won't make the team if that is what you're implying with getting somewhere with the new "Messiah"

elmystique wrote:

Luca wrote:I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

Martinez was leading Catania wherever, was supposed to be the "Messiah" where did he lead us?

you'll see where we will get with this "New Messiah"

Really, "messiah"? I don't think anyone ever came close to labeling Martinez in such a way. I think Marotta got him because we were desperate for a LW and Martinez appeared to be above average and at a price we could afford. The next "messiah" title is just ridiculous.

Juventude wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Luca wrote:I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

Martinez was leading Catania wherever, was supposed to be the "Messiah" where did he lead us?

you'll see where we will get with this "New Messiah"

Really, "messiah"? I don't think anyone ever came close to labeling Martinez in such a way. I think Marotta got him because we were desperate for a LW and Martinez appeared to be above average and at a price we could afford. The next "messiah" title is just ridiculous.

last year comments:

Marotta "Martinez is the Diego replacement"

comments from posters

"Martinez is better than Diego"

"He fits the system better"

blah! blah! blah!

we've seen it all b4....

elmystique wrote:

Juventude wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Luca wrote:I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

Martinez was leading Catania wherever, was supposed to be the "Messiah" where did he lead us?

you'll see where we will get with this "New Messiah"

Really, "messiah"? I don't think anyone ever came close to labeling Martinez in such a way. I think Marotta got him because we were desperate for a LW and Martinez appeared to be above average and at a price we could afford. The next "messiah" title is just ridiculous.

last year comments:

Marotta "Martinez is the Diego replacement"

comments from posters

"Martinez is better than Diego"

"He fits the system better"

blah! blah! blah!

we've seen it all b4....

pls find me that quote u just made up ....and that thread ...or news

^^

its not made up, it is true......and I can't find it yet but pity....

DeviAngel wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Juventude wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Luca wrote:I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

Martinez was leading Catania wherever, was supposed to be the "Messiah" where did he lead us?

you'll see where we will get with this "New Messiah"

Really, "messiah"? I don't think anyone ever came close to labeling Martinez in such a way. I think Marotta got him because we were desperate for a LW and Martinez appeared to be above average and at a price we could afford. The next "messiah" title is just ridiculous.

last year comments:

Marotta "Martinez is the Diego replacement"

comments from posters

"Martinez is better than Diego"

"He fits the system better"

blah! blah! blah!

we've seen it all b4....

pls find me that quote u just made up ....and that thread ...or news

Agreed.

Elm, go through the forum and look for that thread from a few months back.

Can't imagine what's stopping you from doing so.

I distinctly remember Marotta saying Quagliarella is Diego's replacement...

So yeah its just made up from elm..

I'll try to find the report too..

EDIT: i have one here..http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/08/27/2090946/official-juventus-sign-fabio-quagliarella-from-napoli

But there is no direct quote from Marotta here but i remember him saying it..

Giuvitojuve wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Juventude wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Luca wrote:I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

Martinez was leading Catania wherever, was supposed to be the "Messiah" where did he lead us?

you'll see where we will get with this "New Messiah"

Really, "messiah"? I don't think anyone ever came close to labeling Martinez in such a way. I think Marotta got him because we were desperate for a LW and Martinez appeared to be above average and at a price we could afford. The next "messiah" title is just ridiculous.

last year comments:

Marotta "Martinez is the Diego replacement"

comments from posters

"Martinez is better than Diego"

"He fits the system better"

blah! blah! blah!

we've seen it all b4....

pls find me that quote u just made up ....and that thread ...or news

Agreed.

Elm, go through the forum and look for that thread from a few months back.

Can't imagine what's stopping you from doing so.

welcome back Giu, glad I helped

anyway, I can't find it, might be made up then...

but still I don't think Vargas transfer is justified...

elmystique wrote:

Giuvitojuve wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Juventude wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Luca wrote:I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

Martinez was leading Catania wherever, was supposed to be the "Messiah" where did he lead us?

you'll see where we will get with this "New Messiah"

Really, "messiah"? I don't think anyone ever came close to labeling Martinez in such a way. I think Marotta got him because we were desperate for a LW and Martinez appeared to be above average and at a price we could afford. The next "messiah" title is just ridiculous.

last year comments:

Marotta "Martinez is the Diego replacement"

comments from posters

"Martinez is better than Diego"

"He fits the system better"

blah! blah! blah!

we've seen it all b4....

pls find me that quote u just made up ....and that thread ...or news

Agreed.

Elm, go through the forum and look for that thread from a few months back.

Can't imagine what's stopping you from doing so.

welcome back Giu, glad I helped

anyway, I can't find it, might be made up then...

but still I don't think Vargas transfer is justified...

You mean you're having difficult locating a thread from 2 months back in the forum?

Hell I've had the same problem.

!! Moratti's hackers at it again!

elmystique wrote:^^

its not made up, it is true......and I can't find it yet but pity....

He said quagli is not the replacement of Diego it was only that nothing else ....and all players are requested by the manager thats the stance we took since 2 seasons ago it was even in la stampa ...ds will buy the players that the manager wants it was taken from the EPL ...

We got rid of both Diego AND Giovinco last year because Del Neri wanted to bring in a LW, and that person was MARTINEZ. He was supposed to be our starting LW and that is why he was brought in. At 12m, he was supposed to be a starter and difference maker, instead he was a flop.

As for Vargas, I think he is a good player but at 28 he doesn't look to be playing in his prime anymore, from what I saw anyway. There is a chance he cold flop like Martinez. As for Fiorentina, they are not the same since Prandelli left, he is a great coach and it was him who gave Fiorentina success in Europe, not any one of their players. Since Prandelli has left Fiorentina has done nothing, so that is proof enough.

Giuvitojuve wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Giuvitojuve wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Juventude wrote:

elmystique wrote:

Luca wrote:I just don't like Vargas that much. He was extremely influential to Peru in the Copa America and to Fiorentina when they made the champions league and their mini run.

Lol @ next Martinez, Fiorentina is a bigger club than Catania, he has led his country and led his club in the champions league... can't get much more ignorant than that.

Hate is such a weak emotion, thats why I despise it

Martinez was leading Catania wherever, was supposed to be the "Messiah" where did he lead us?

you'll see where we will get with this "New Messiah"

Really, "messiah"? I don't think anyone ever came close to labeling Martinez in such a way. I think Marotta got him because we were desperate for a LW and Martinez appeared to be above average and at a price we could afford. The next "messiah" title is just ridiculous.

last year comments:

Marotta "Martinez is the Diego replacement"

comments from posters

"Martinez is better than Diego"

"He fits the system better"

blah! blah! blah!

we've seen it all b4....

pls find me that quote u just made up ....and that thread ...or news

Agreed.

Elm, go through the forum and look for that thread from a few months back.

Can't imagine what's stopping you from doing so.

welcome back Giu, glad I helped

anyway, I can't find it, might be made up then...

but still I don't think Vargas transfer is justified...

You mean you're having difficult locating a thread from 2 months back in the forum?

Hell I've had the same problem.

!! Moratti's hackers at it again!

juve_gigi wrote:
Since Prandelli has left VARGAS has done nothing, so that is proof enough.

_____________________________FIXED_______________________________________

We need any POPULAR NAMES(excluding age) player we can get, times is running out. Or perhaps we could suffer comes January? LOL!

elmystique wrote:

last year comments:

Marotta "Martinez is the Diego replacement"

comments from posters

"Martinez is better than Diego"

"He fits the system better"

blah! blah! blah!

we've seen it all b4....

Not to cause drama or anything... but he does bring up a good point...

Giuvitojuve wrote:

Agreed.

Elm, go through the forum and look for that thread from a few months back.

Can't imagine what's stopping you from doing so.

Sorry Giu, I know you're trying to prove a point here, however this has nothing to do with the forum wipe as it this was said last year on the old forums.

juve_gigi wrote:We got rid of both Diego AND Giovinco last year because Del Neri wanted to bring in a LW, and that person was MARTINEZ. He was supposed to be our starting LW and that is why he was brought in. At 12m, he was supposed to be a starter and difference maker, instead he was a flop.

As for Vargas, I think he is a good player but at 28 he doesn't look to be playing in his prime anymore, from what I saw anyway. There is a chance he cold flop like Martinez. As for Fiorentina, they are not the same since Prandelli left, he is a great coach and it was him who gave Fiorentina success in Europe, not any one of their players. Since Prandelli has left Fiorentina has done nothing, so that is proof enough.

Well and Lanzafame as Lanzafame was Giovinco's replacement... Agreed.