English Players Don't Like to Leave England

by The_Badger Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:25 pm

Sorry to hurt your feelings, but it is true.

by rwo power Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:15 pm

I cut the discussions about English players from the transfer talk as it looks like a fairly interesting discussion, but I would like to ask you to keep it civil, please!

by 1991 Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:24 pm

jibers wrote:
Motogp69 wrote:You don't find it odd that literally no good English talent really plays outside of England?
It's the empire mentality that still pertains in Britain today. Everyone in Europe can speak multiple languages and can speak English better than most people in this country (UK) atm. We refuse to learn other languages and when we go abroad we expect them to speak English. This is also shown in our football, where we refuse to use new training methods and improve, believing our way is superior despite the results. They are too comfortable in England. It's no surprise that Hargreaves was technically superior to all our mf playing atm and he didn't learn his football in this country. Spain has reached this level because of importing ideas from multiple nations. England continually refuse to look outside. It's more than football, it's a mentality.

France is a nation that suffers from the 'empire mentality' twice as much, you've probably never been so haven't exp French arrogance first hand.

by urbaNRoots Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:27 pm

In England they pay the best wages and playing in one of the best leagues in the world Smile

It's a no-brainer.

by Grooverider Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:27 pm

There is no need to want to leave Britain though, as much as people enjoy slagging it off, it still remains one of the best places to live in Europe.

Of course the weather is crap, but who says you cant go on holiday twice a year to a sunny climate?

by rwo power Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:27 pm

I remember that Bayern wanted to sign Leighton Baines before David Alaba broke through, but Baines turned down the offer as he supposedly didn't want to leave his family in England. I wonder if he didn't regret this by now.

by VendettaRed07 Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:28 pm

I think it has more to do with the fact that English clubs offer them wages and pay fees for English talent that nobody else is willing to pay for.

You pay for a great player and get just an ok one. It's not worth it to teams outside of England to overpay for no reason.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:28 pm

Jibers pretty much nailed it tbh.

by The_Badger Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:34 pm

Gil wrote:Future BL GOAT Michael Mancienne will be called up for the next England squad.

Chelsea's Academy

by inter1lachen Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:14 pm

Are there many English players that would be wanted by Spanish or Italian clubs? Ability on the ball is important in Spain and Italy, even for defenders. Watching the English national teams (senior and under 21) I see only Rooney having the necessary ability.

by flameas Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:17 pm

Because most of them suck. Just look at the national team.

by cyberman Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:22 pm

how many italians play outside of serie a?
germans outside of germany?

by REWB Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:22 pm

Gil wrote:
The_Badger wrote:
Gil wrote:Hargreaves was rubbish technically which is why he played RB. No idea what Jibers is on about there. I definitely don't agree.

Average player.
You know nothing though. Your knowledge of football comes from playing computer games.
This actually hurt since it's coming from the worst poster on this forum.

lool Dat comeback

ps. who is the girl on ur avater? damnn

by RedOranje Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:37 pm

cyberman wrote:how many italians play outside of serie a?
germans outside of germany?

Rough and quick count of those playing outside of their home countries in most well known 6 leagues of Europe (England, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Spain).

Italians: 22
Germans: 41
English: 2

by rwo power Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:15 pm

@Red

We at Rot-Weiß Oberhausen have an English player in our team Proud

Admitted, it's only Regionalliga West (4th division), but still...

Here: http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/rot-weiss-oberhausen/startseite/verein_57.html

by RedOranje Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:30 pm

That's not really one of the "most well known" leagues though, is it?

For what it's worth, the information I was using was a wee bit out of date, but not significantly (not been updated for all of this summer's moves).

by rwo power Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:52 pm

RedOranje wrote:That's not really one of the "most well known" leagues though, is it?

*snif* You don't have to rub it in like that! (And yeah, we are so desperate at RWO that wie take everything, even English players Razz

)

by RedOranje Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:57 pm

Hey, I didn't include MLS either...

by Toffer Harley Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:10 pm

we are lucky enough to have an englishman and he is shite. but the one before that was kevin keegan, so no hard feelings.

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