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Post by Zees Sat May 21, 2022 7:21 pm

sportsczy wrote:I can't express enough the "god-like" figure he'd become in Paris if he brings the CL trophy... the 1st one in their history. That may not register for people outside of France and Paris; but you become immortal.

Similar to the CL that Marseille won. The players, managers, owner of that team are forever immortal in that town.

Hard to explain.

He's already won the world cup. Favorites to win a 2nd one this coming year. Going for CL. Not to mention CR's record for goalscoring in CL is 135. Mbappe is already at 33. To put that in perspective... He's only 16 away from being top 10. I think both he and Haaland break CR's record in the next 10-15 years.

His legacy is set if he continues on this trajectory regardless if he stays or leaves PSG. The trophies and stats will speak for themselves.

I doubt Mbappe ever goes to Madrid at this point. I think his next destination is EPL in 2-3 years.

They should be breaking it with the implementation of the new format.

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Post by Warrior Sat May 21, 2022 7:52 pm

Mbappé is a big shark in the pool and that was clear many years ago. Even at Monaco in 2017 there was reports that his family is very organized, business oriented and they want to have the most possible control over his career.

In retrospect the only surprising element is to use Madrid as stepping stone for contract negociations. That takes balls. Clearly doesn't respect PSG either btw.

People celebrate the L taken by Madrid fans but they are well managed, they are in CL final, it's only a minor bump. As for PSG this club is still laughing stock, an endless disturbance on the transfer market, going after everyone yet they get humiliated each season. Now Mbappé will be acting as their new GM and i'm sure they were willing to give the qatari citizenship if he asked it. They care only to save face for their dud world cup and losing Mbappé was too big of a hit on their credibility.
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Post by Pedram Sat May 21, 2022 8:29 pm

sportsczy wrote:200 million signing bonus, 1 million per week net, veto right on manager and player transactions, captaincy, 3 year contract (year 3 is player option).

That’s the rumor.

What a joke of a club Laughing no player should have this much power over a club, not even Messi in his prime had this in Barcelona.

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Post by halamadrid2 Sat May 21, 2022 8:46 pm



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Post by halamadrid2 Sat May 21, 2022 8:48 pm

Good luck going up against Qatar. Tebas will never win
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat May 21, 2022 8:49 pm

Imagine the league doing this for anyone else. Impossible Laughing

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat May 21, 2022 8:53 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Imagine the league doing this for anyone else. Impossible Laughing


They did it with Barcelona against PSG for the Neymar transfer when Tebas said they weren't going to accept the money from PSG. They didn't report them I think, but they released an official statement too.

Don't know why Tebas is still in charge by the way. An absolute clown who's doing more harm than good to La Liga.

This statement seems more like a butthurt reaction than anything else.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat May 21, 2022 9:05 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:

Right move

Beautiful! Now we're talking.
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Post by titosantill Sat May 21, 2022 9:23 pm

If LA Liga is doing that, it's superlame, an embarrassment to the league and a waste of time and resources. The kid was never a madrid player, u can't force him to come and play in your league, he never signed any agreement. Focus that energy into marketing your product than bothering psg

As a matter of pride, madrid should not pursue this move again. You don't want to give the impression that you will always be available open arms when players turn down a deal. Like when we signed hazard and the pro madrid media made it look like "madrid always gets their man", the dude was like 5/6 yes older and some pounds heavier than our initial interest.

Anyway glad it's all done and we can focus on Liverpool and not have a rumor filled summer with "insiders" recycling rumors.
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Post by Bankz Sat May 21, 2022 10:17 pm

Mbappe lied. Point blank. He told Real Madrid he was coming, he gave them his word.

At the last second, after Real Madrid gave up on Erling Haaland just because of him, he went back on his word.

Nobody can trust him now. A man is as good as his word. And his means nothing.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat May 21, 2022 10:18 pm

Bankz wrote:Mbappe lied. Point blank. He told Real Madrid he was coming, he gave them his word.

At the last second, after Real Madrid gave up on Erling Haaland just because of him, he went back on his word.

Nobody can trust him now. A man is as good as his word. And his means nothing.

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Post by sportsczy Sat May 21, 2022 10:31 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Bankz wrote:Mbappe lied. Point blank. He told Real Madrid he was coming, he gave them his word.

At the last second, after Real Madrid gave up on Erling Haaland just because of him, he went back on his word.

Nobody can trust him now. A man is as good as his word. And his means nothing.

This

This is 100% false and why (despite getting a lot of shit from people) I kept putting it out there that nothing is done.  Every media person that actually is worth something in France was unsure about his destination until the last minute.  Heck, even PSG didn't know lol.  They gave up earlier in the week because Mbappe went silent on them to make his final decision (and they took silence as a "no").  So it's not like he misrepresented anything.  Everything was very close to the vest.

He did say things like "I want to experience something new in my career of course" or "Madrid is certainly a great destination"... never directly but via his agents btw...  but he never committed 100%.  He made it perfectly clear that there was no final commitment.

So if Madrid felt "comfortable", it was never guaranteed.  Every public appearance, even the one where he explained what happened last summer, he mentioned that his decision last summer was then and that doesn't necessarily mean it will be his decision in the future.

If Madrid management, players, media and fans are butthurt, it's of their own doing, not Mbappe's.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat May 21, 2022 10:36 pm

His mum confirmed that he had agreed with both teams so there is that theory out the window

He was rumored to have given his green light already in January. We would never had passed on Haaland if we didn't have a handshake agreement. Then in March he mentioned there were new parameters and he played us against QSG and got what he wanted

One thing's for sure, one can never trust his word again. Rumour has it he texted Perez to communicate his decision Laughing he's made such a big fool of himself with this whole transfer saga
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Post by sportsczy Sat May 21, 2022 10:38 pm

What changed btw is PSG agreeing to fire Leonardo / Poche and give Mbappe veto rights on new hires. Mbappe was leaving because he didn't believe in the sporting direction... that drastic move by PSG convinced him.
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Post by sportsczy Sat May 21, 2022 10:39 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:His mum confirmed that he had agreed with  both teams so there is that theory out the window

He was rumored to have given his green light already in January. We would never had passed on Haaland if we didn't have a handshake agreement. Then in March he mentioned there were new parameters and he played us against QSG and got what he wanted

One thing's for sure, one can never trust his word again. Rumour has it he texted Perez to communicate his decision  Laughing he's made such a big fool of himself with this whole transfer saga

Agreeing to what terms look like IF you were to sign a contract is not signing a contract.  That's like getting terms sheets from various venture capital firms as a startup and then signing the one you want.

It's very typically done when you have multiple suitors. You're getting the best offers so that you can then decide on one.


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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat May 21, 2022 10:39 pm

Bankz wrote:Mbappe lied. Point blank. He told Real Madrid he was coming, he gave them his word.

At the last second, after Real Madrid gave up on Erling Haaland just because of him, he went back on his word.

Nobody can trust him now. A man is as good as his word. And his means nothing.

Couldn't have said it better. Thumbs up
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Post by Firenze Sat May 21, 2022 10:39 pm

rich mans Mbappe Rashford to Madrid then? please? will even throw in Martial
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Post by sportsczy Sat May 21, 2022 10:40 pm

It's as if none of you have ever done business deals lol.
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Post by El Gunner Sat May 21, 2022 10:47 pm

Kaladin wrote:

Dead

talk about not taking it well rofl :Rofl: rofl
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Post by Chad31 Sat May 21, 2022 11:08 pm

The biggest joke of all this is all the ass kissing from Spanish media and fans, just so desperate and obnoxious to be apart of everything and looking like fools in the end learn to stop being so damn extra, would have happily cheered for this guy if he knocked the team out of CL this season lol, him taking this long to announce his decision always seemed suspicious, if he is leaving and wanted to leave last sunmer, then why all the waiting and suspense? Just to get a ridiculous contract from psg, the club can't compete anymore in terms of salary, what mbappe did has damaged the club reputation a lot, gonna be stained for awhile.

How funny it is when some French guy was going on about getting rid of vinicius and rodrygo for some money hungry guy who doesn't want to compete, I don't care how good mbappe is now or in the future, nothing is gonna change that, I hope Flo doesn't go back for him at the end of this current contract, and have some self-respect unlike madrid fans and media, learn to appreciate the club legends, players like bale can be treated harshly after all he did for the club, yet a player who has played a second football for the team was treated like God, hope bale is laughing his ass off somewhere.

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Post by Myesyats Sat May 21, 2022 11:58 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Flo is never calm about signings unless he knows it is done!


futbol_bill wrote:Are you suggesting Myesyats doesn’t wait for reliable sources?


futbol_bill wrote:Que sorpresa!


futbol_bill wrote:Who?


futbol_bill wrote:Mbappe’s addition is crucial to this rebuild and I still am convinced that the deal has been done.


futbol_bill wrote:Update, pretty well confirmed Mbappe is coming


futbol_bill wrote:Ronaldo was signed a year earlier, Alaba was signed in January and Mbappe was signed in February.


futbol_bill wrote:with Mbappe all but confirmed

futbol_bill wrote:Just getting Mbappe solves so many problems for us.


futbol_bill wrote:They is little doubt in my mine that he wants to acquire both. It sure seems as if, Mbappe is now a done deal


futbol_bill wrote:Team is changing roles etc with the Mbappe signing


futbol_bill wrote:Mbappe is confirmed, and the money is there for Haaland, plus there are more funds for other needs.


futbol_bill wrote: there is no need for wing backs with the speed of Mbappe and Vinicius.


futbol_bill wrote:I guess news hasn’t reached England yet!

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Post by Perucho21 Sun May 22, 2022 12:31 am

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Perucho21 wrote:What really irks me is the reaction of our fanbase on Twitter and reddit. Like you would think they are talking some random scrub. Mbappe is a generational player, best of his generation and if not for Benz he'd be the best player in the world. Losing out on him sucks and our fans act like Rodrygo is better.

I can understand Haaland. We weren't going to sell benzema after a ballon dor season. Choice was pretty easy For Haaland. City need a striker now, we weren't desperate for one.

Idk where Perez goes from here. This is one big L to take. I personally don't think Vini and Rodrygo are going to the main guys at Madrid. They can be key supporting players but the not "the man" like Benz. Mbappe was closest to it


L for Madrid because they couldn't financially compete with a state owned club?

Go take a hike dude.

The figures reported are obscene. Madrid did the right thing by backing out.


Real didnt back out of the deal "dude", Mbappe declined Madrids offer and accepted PSGs. Perez waited.

Should have been clear. This was an L for Perez, not the club entirely. I dont think hes in the hot seat, but the socios and the impatient fans will expect some sort of response

If rudiger is the only signing, fan reaction will be even worse that it is right now
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Post by sportsczy Sun May 22, 2022 12:59 am

No need for promises.  You only make a promise if you are forced to wait for legal reasons.  Mbappe was free to officially sign whatever deal he wanted on January 1 per the rules since it was his last year.  The fact that nothing was signed indicated that nothing was finalized.

So the narrative that "he broke his word" is completely ridiculous.
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Post by Myesyats Sun May 22, 2022 1:05 am

Bankz wrote:Mbappe lied. Point blank. He told Real Madrid he was coming, he gave them his word.

When did that happen? It was reported by Madrid based media that Mbappe "gave RM his word" but I reckon it was just a catchy news headline at best, otherwise untrue.
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Post by sportsczy Sun May 22, 2022 1:10 am

Myesyats wrote:
Bankz wrote:Mbappe lied. Point blank. He told Real Madrid he was coming, he gave them his word.

When did that happen? It was reported by Madrid based media that Mbappe "gave RM his word" but I reckon it was just a catchy news headline at best, otherwise untrue.

Why would he "give his word" when he was free to sign whatever contract he wanted on January 1?  This whole narrative is nonsense.

And btw, as much as i don't like Flo, i don't blame him one bit for gambling on Mbappe.  He and Haaland are the two players you gamble on and hope for the best.  Real Madrid and its fans are just not used to losing these types of gambles.

For those thinking that Flo chose Mbappe over Haaland... that's not true.  He was after both.  Man City gave Haaland more favorable terms (namely, an out clause after 2 years that Madrid would not give).
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