The Bundesliga Thread 20/21

[Hapless_Hans]

Bundesliga 2020/21

Official webiste: https://www.bundesliga.com

The first matchday of the Hinrunde 2021/21 will start tonight at 20:30 GMT+2 with the match Bayern München vs Schalke 04.

Full fixture list for 2020/21: https://media.dfl.de/sites/2/2020/08/Spielplan_Bundesliga_2020-2021.pdf

Freshly promoted teams are Arminia Bielefeld and the VfB Stuttgart
Last seasons top 4 were Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig and Gladbach.

All teams:
FC Augsburg
Hertha BSC
1. FC Union Berlin
DSC Arminia Bielefeld
SV Werder Bremen
Borussia Dortmund
Eintracht Frankfurt
Sport-Club Freiburg
TSG Hoffenheim
1. FC Köln
RB Leipzig
Bayer 04 Leverkusen
1. FSV Mainz 05
Borussia Mönchengladbach (short: Gladbach)
FC Bayern München
FC Schalke 04
VfB Stuttgart
VfL Wolfsburg

[Hapless_Hans]

PREDICTION TIME

Who will win the league

Who will reach top 4

Who will get relegated

Points prediction for top 4

Who will be top goalscorer

Who will get sacked first/which club will sack their coach first

Most disappointing team of the season

Most overachieving team of the season

Breakthrough player of the season

Flop of the season

[Hapless_Hans]

Who will win the league
FC Bayern

Who will reach top 4
BVB
Leipzig
Leverkusen

Who will get relegated
Mainz
Hertha
Bielefeld

Points prediction for top 4
Bayern 74
BVB 71
Leipzig 70
Leverkusen 64

Who will be top goalscorer
Robert Lewandowski

Who will get sacked first/which club will sack their coach first
Sebastian Hoeness/TSG Hoffenheim

Most disappointing team of the season
Borussia Mönchengladbach

Most overachieving team of the season
Union Berlin

Breakthrough player of the season
Nianzou

Flop of the season
Jadon Sancho

[Thimmy]

PREDICTION TIME

Who will win the league



Who will reach top 4

Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig.. I'm gonna take a risk and say Köln, even though they were terrible last season.

Who will get relegated

Augsburg. I don't know who else. I'm not a long-time follower of the league.

Who will be top goalscorer

Again, I'll take a risk and say Alexander Sørloth. Would be impressive if he could do it in his first season, if ever.

Who will get sacked first/which club will sack their coach first

Markus Gisdol/FC Köln.

Most disappointing team of the season

I want to say RB Leipzig, but they still have a lot of talent in that team, assuming they don't sell more key players. If Sørloth flops, I imagine they'll become the most disappointing team of the season, based on expectations.

Most overachieving team of the season

Would be funny if it turns out to be Köln, but my guess would be Eintracht Frankfurt.

Breakthrough player of the season

Alexander Sørloth will likely be in a prime position to be that player, but I have no idea. He's looked good for Norway recently, but I'm not familiar with how he plays on a regular basis. Was always on the bench whenever I decided to watch him at Crystal Palace.

Hee-Chan. One of RB Salzburg's standout performers. I've barely watched him play, but I approve of his work ethic. Seems to have 3 lungs, similarly to his fellow countryman, Ji Sung Park.

In Dortmund, there's Reinier who's on loan from Real Madrid. Not familiar with him at all, but I've read nothing but praise for his talent. Seems to have been a standout performer in his first and last season for Real Madrid Castilla. There's also Jude Bellingham, but I think it's too early for him. There's going to be a lot of exciting, young talent in Bundesliga this season!

Flop of the season

I have no clue. Probably one of the possible breakthrough players I mentioned.

[Hapless_Hans]

Who will reach top 4

Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig.. I'm gonna take a risk and say Köln, even though they were terrible last season.

Who will be top goalscorer

Again, I'll take a risk and say Alexander Sørloth. Would be impressive if he could do it in his first season, if ever.

Who will get sacked first/which club will sack their coach first

Markus Gisdol/FC Köln.

Most disappointing team of the season

I want to say RB Leipzig, but they still have a lot of talent in that team, assuming they don't sell more key players. If Sørloth flops, I imagine they'll become the most disappointing team of the season, based on expectations.

Most overachieving team of the season

Would be funny if it turns out to be Köln, but my guess would be Eintracht Frankfurt.

Breakthrough player of the season

Alexander Sørloth will likely be in a prime position to be that player, but I have no idea. He's looked good for Norway recently, but I'm not familiar with how he plays on a regular basis. Was always on the bench whenever I decided to watch him at Crystal Palace.

Hee-Chan. One of RB Salzburg's standout performers. I've barely watched him play, but I approve of his work ethic. Seems to have 3 lungs, similarly to his fellow countryman, Ji Sung Park.

In Dortmund, there's Reinier who's on loan from Real Madrid. Not familiar with him at all, but I've read nothing but praise for his talent. Seems to have been a standout performer in his first and last season for Real Madrid Castilla. There's also Jude Bellingham, but I think it's too early for him. There's going to be a lot of exciting, young talent in Bundesliga this season!

Flop of the season
I have no clue. Probably one of the possible breakthrough players I mentioned.

Hmm. There might be very well a Norwegian top Torjäger this season, but surely it would be Haaland?!
Tough choice between Haaland and Lewa tbh, given the kid's uncanny scoring ability and his killer instinct. I just figured that Favre's BVB won't create enough for him to beat out Lewa, after all.
Sörloth, I just don't see him scoring that much for Leipzig, it's not how they play, at least how it was with Werner's role.

As for Köln, not a chance for top 4, I don't see any of the lower table teams make that high up a foray this season. I think Gladbach might be disappointing expectations this season (in relation to the very high expectations people have now of them under Rose mind you), but neither them nor Leverkusen will fall beneath teams like Köln. Also Frankfurt won't be as overperforming this season as we got used to them being.

Actually, I think the relegation fight will involve more than half of the teams in the league this season.
Including Schalke lmao.

Also, it's funny that you have Köln as suprise achievers in top 4, but also as the first to sack their coach
That would be some collossal new manager boune post-Gisdol

Reinier looks great tbh. And Bellingham looks absolutely ready, I just didn't have him as my breakout player as I want to hype Nianzou.

[Thimmy]

I didn't pick Haaland, simply because picking him wouldn't be interesting at all. Sørloth was a more interesting pick, because I know nothing about him other than him being tall, strong and fast. Like Haaland, he's physically imposing, yet deceptively fast. I don't know how we've managed to produce two of those. I don't know what to expect from him, and since I have no expectations, it'll be more entertaining if he does have a breakthrough season.

Gisdol became manager of Köln last season, and they have been absolutely terrible under him, so far. I don't expect much to change in that camp, but again, it would make things interesting if they do turn things around. Frankfurt seems to have spent some money in this transfer window already. If anything, they're showing some ambition.

I've never heard of Nianzou. Sounds Chinese.

[Hapless_Hans]

Nianzou is our new 18 year old French CB kid from PSG's youth. Name is Nianzou Tanguy Kouassi, but he wants to be called Nianzou.

As for Sörloth, under Nagelsmann he will have a perfect environment to prosper, if he's good. Will be interesting to see.

FWIW, I expect that Hwang will flop

[Hapless_Hans]

No fucking idea how on earth our players are supposed to be motivated, psychologically ready and anything resembling to physically or mentally fit to tackle the challenge of a new league season, after this ridiculously short break.
I'm not even sure whether I have the stamina for 90 minutes.

oh well
should suffice to beat Schalke

[iftikhar]

PREDICTION TIME

Who will win the league Seriously

Who will reach top 4

Who will get relegated

Points prediction for top 4

Who will be top goalscorer

Who will get sacked first/which club will sack their coach first

Most disappointing team of the season

Most overachieving team of the season

Breakthrough player of the season

Flop of the season

[Hapless_Hans]

3-0 after 30 minutes, with Serda, Schalke's best midfielder hs to go off injured, not a good start for the royal blue

[Casciavit]

This Sané-Gnabry link up >>>

[Hapless_Hans]

FIY the only reason why  haven't put Wagner at Schalke as the first to be sacked is that I'm pretty sure Schalke's financial state is so desolate that they can't actually afford to pay his compensation while having to pay the next coach. They just lack the liquidity, and probably still have to pay for Weinzierl and Tedesco.

Without Covid I think Wagner'd have been gone already.

[Hapless_Hans]

SANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

7-0

[Casciavit]

SANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

7-0

That sprint fffs

[Nishankly]

So fucking glad Sane is no longer the PL. Future best winger in the world. Called in 2018

[Hapless_Hans]

MUUUUUUUUUUUSIAAAAAAALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL GOLG OGL GOLG

[Casciavit]

Have Bayern been linked to a Thiago replacement Hans? I'm aware Kimmich will be the starting 6, but having a back up controller would be good for them imo

[Hapless_Hans]

8-0 home win,
Gnabry hattrick,
Sané with a goal and 2 assists on his debut,
Chris Richards and Jamal Musiala getting a game,
Musiala becoming the clubs youngest ever Bundesliga goalscorer with 17 1/2, beating Roque Santa Cruz's record

A great end to a sad day

[Hapless_Hans]

Have Bayern been linked to a Thiago replacement Hans? I'm aware Kimmich will be the starting 6, but having a back up controller would be good for them imo

Nope. Not so far.
Tolisso back from his ACL is "like a new signing"
Cuisance will get a chance at some playing time, to show whether he can channel his considerable talent into something useful (jury's out on his mental capacity IMO).
And then there is Münchens own Adrian Fein

The funds will probably first be used on a backup RB, Ajax' Dest is rumoured.

With Thiago we lose irreplaceable quality. But I agree we should probably at least try.

[Nishankly]

Sarpreet Singh gonna make us proud Hans, dw

[Hapless_Hans]

Sarpreet Singh gonna make us proud Hans, dw

He's loaned out to Nürnberg, 2nd Bundesliga

[Nishankly]

Sarpreet Singh gonna make us proud Hans, dw

He's loaned out to Nürnberg, 2nd Bundesliga

WTFFFF

[Hapless_Hans]

eh, shouldn't it be called "substitutes", not "substitutions"?



I like how they added that black arrow pointing from the area that says "starting eleven" to the list of players, so that there is no misunderstandings

[Myesyats]

never understood how elf = 11 in german

[Hapless_Hans]

never understood how elf = 11 in german

well, elf is also elf in German. Or rather, Elf.

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