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Post by Art Morte Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:58 pm

Hard to argue after that performance by England that they deserved the final. Simply not enough technical ability in the team to create chances. All the attacking players were pretty useless against Croatia.

Sad to see the "it's coming home" meme die.

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Post by M99 Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:00 pm

Don't worry lads, the bronze medal might still come home.
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Post by Unique Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:04 pm

not to be bias but ox lallana and milner would have made a big difference to england tbh.
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Post by Robespierre Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:05 pm


Need to add Harry Kane

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Post by farfan Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:08 pm

Where is the clown who called Perisic and Mandzukic scrubs? Laughing
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Post by S Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:09 pm

farfan wrote:Where is the clown who called Perisic and Mandzukic scrubs? Laughing


Who did actually ? Laughing
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Post by messixaviesta Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:10 pm

farfan wrote:Where is the clown who called Perisic and Mandzukic scrubs? Laughing


I have said for years that Perisic is a very underrated player. As for Mandzukic he has time and again delivered even if he may not be the best technically.

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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:11 pm

England's refusal/inability to play through the middle third of the pitch was their undoing.

The first half was great and they had the chances to take a two goal lead into half-time. Kane bottled the best of them somehow.

Croatia took control in the second half and we always looked like we would struggle. Our first problem was that by leaving two up top, we had no cover on our flanks and had to rely on the midfielders shuffling across. Alli had to protect Young but if he went across it exposed our lack of numbers in the centre, and if he didn't Vrsaljko had a free run at Young. Unsurprisingly, the goal came from this problem.

After that, our gameplan became very one dimensional. We needed someone to get a grip on play in the middle or carry the ball though the pitch. Without that player, all we could do is lump the ball down the channels or to the strikers and hope it stuck. It didn't.

I think that's why Southgate took Sterling off for Rashford. He wanted that ball to stay with the strikers for longer. But in failing to address the midfield, he left us open and stretched and Rashford couldn't make the difference. This was a time for Delph or Loftus-Cheek. Even now, our old habit of throwing on all the forwards and hoping something sticks still persists.

This was a step too far for us and tbh it would have been a tremendous overachievement to have made the final, even in this half of the bracket. There's a lot to work on still for this England team. For all the good work that's been done, playing with no midfield will only get you so far.

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Post by farfan Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:12 pm

S wrote:
farfan wrote:Where is the clown who called Perisic and Mandzukic scrubs? Laughing


Who did actually ? Laughing


farfan wrote:
El Gunner wrote:Literally the only half class player that he has as a teammate is Rakitic.

If Croatia wins this tournament, Modric deserves the Balon D'or


So Mandzukic, Peresic, and Kramaric are scrubs now? Laughing


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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Literally the only half class player that he has as a teammate is Rakitic.

If Croatia wins this tournament, Modric deserves the Balon D'or

Strange, GL has been telling me the last few days they are stacked and we should give up before we even play them.

Well, I'm not one of them.

And yes, farfan, those are bland, outright average players you just mentioned.


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Post by S Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:14 pm

El G :facepalm:

Unbelievable ffs. Dint see this coming from you
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Post by Luca Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:16 pm

Well done to England, could've and probably should've won this game inside the first 30 minutes.

Croatia is an unreal team. I'm happy for Mandzukic, always comes up with these moments Proud

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Post by M99 Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:17 pm

Kramaric, I understand. Perisic, maybe people don't watch Inter. But Mandzukic??? The man has scored in two CL finals Laughing
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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:17 pm

For the Inter fans, Perisic I only watch occasionally at Inter but he seems very important there, where Icardi gets all the credit, but its Perisic who is often the real threat and creator right?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:18 pm

Jay29 wrote:England's refusal/inability to play through the middle third of the pitch was their undoing.

The first half was great and they had the chances to take a two goal lead into half-time. Kane bottled the best of them somehow.

Croatia took control in the second half and we always looked like we would struggle. Our first problem was that by leaving two up top, we had no cover on our flanks and had to rely on the midfielders shuffling across. Alli had to protect Young but if he went across it exposed our lack of numbers in the centre, and if he didn't Vrsaljko had a free run at Young. Unsurprisingly, the goal came from this problem.

After that, our gameplan became very one dimensional. We needed someone to get a grip on play in the middle or carry the ball though the pitch. Without that player, all we could do is lump the ball down the channels or to the strikers and hope it stuck. It didn't.

I think that's why Southgate took Sterling off for Rashford. He wanted that ball to stay with the strikers for longer. But in failing to address the midfield, he left us open and stretched and Rashford couldn't make the difference. This was a time for Delph or Loftus-Cheek. Even now, our old habit of throwing on all the forwards and hoping something sticks still persists.

This was a step too far for us and tbh it would have been a tremendous overachievement to have made the final, even in this half of the bracket. There's a lot to work on still for this England team. For all the good work that's been done, playing with no midfield will only get you so far.


This game went like every other England game I saw at this tournament.
You start great, with quick attacking with intent. You're clearly the better team and seem to be able to create at will. You score, too. Then you get worse and worse, and more and more unimaginative as the game goes on.
By 50-60 minutes you have lost control and are just hoofing the ball forward.

Strange. But that's what I meant when I said this England team won't be able to compete with Croatia. There's not been much fighting spirit in it. Also, too much diving and going down at every physical contact.
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Post by S Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:19 pm

Rebic has been a revelation for Croatia as well in this tournament

'scrubs' :facepalm:
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Post by juvealbanian Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:19 pm

MARRRRRIIIOOOOOO MANDZZUFUKINGIIICC

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Post by rincon Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:22 pm

Don't have to stop at the front 3. The rest of the team includes Brozovic and Vrsaljko. Scrubs Thumbs up
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Post by juvealbanian Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:23 pm

juvealbanian wrote:Semi-finals

Croatia vs England: 1-1 (Croatia win in Extra Time)

Goalscorers: Mandzukic

lol it's not coming home.Marione is taking it home
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:24 pm

Making me lose money u fckn melts, can't never really count on Brexit
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:24 pm

rincon wrote:Don't have to stop at the front 3. The rest of the team includes Brozovic and Vrsaljko. Scrubs Thumbs up


Don't like Brozovic much tbh.
Don't think he was great.
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Post by Luca Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:25 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Making me lose money u fckn melts, can't never really count on Brexit


Based on your predictions these days, you probably would've lost the money regardless Proud

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Post by Doc Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:25 pm

Yeah, England progressively got worse as the match continued and Kane shat the bed, the floor and even on the dog. Tough loss UK lads but Croatia played better, way better.

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Post by juvealbanian Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:26 pm

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Need of an ARMISTICIE @juvealbanian

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Post by Doc Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:28 pm

To play devil's advocate, Sports actually was sort of correct in that Perisic, Rebic/Kramaric were better forwards than Lingaard and Sterling. Don't mind Sterling played really well before he got taken off.
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Post by S Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:29 pm

@Frenzy, how does it feel to be ousted by 2 Serie Zzz players ?

The more you keep shitting on the league , the more L's you're beginning to take. I'd show some humility if i were you
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Post by Unique Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:30 pm

Doc wrote:Yeah, England progressively got worse as the match continued and Kane shat the bed, the floor and even on the dog. Tough loss UK lads but Croatia played better, way better.

the UK didnt play tonight lad england did.
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