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Post by Kaladin Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:13 am

I can already see Dybala ruining Lindelo/Bayley/Smalling/Jones/Rojo/Blind

Alternatively, i can also see Martial mistake-dribble through De Sciglio, leaving him to eat dust and scoring a near-post tap in against Buffoon

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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:18 am

I've talked before about the amount of English and Italian teams there should be in the CL, every year one or two great clubs are left out because of "neutrality", this year it was Arsenal, last year Man Utd and so on. Meanwhile Serie A got gifted a CL place without deserving it.

I've said before that looking at the teams quality and success in recent years, Premier League should have 7 clubs directly qualifying in the CL while Serie A only one. The way it is you have clubs like Napoli, Roma scrubbing it out every year while quality PL teams find themselves dominating in EL.

Don't get me wrong, the same is valid for the Spanish league and every other league in Europe. This is the CHAMPIONS league not the pity league. Premier League has 7 champions and the rest only have one every year.
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Post by Ion Creanga Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:26 am

urbaNRoots wrote:I've talked before about the amount of English and Italian teams there should be in the CL, every year one or two great clubs are left out because of "neutrality", this year it was Arsenal, last year Man Utd and so on. Meanwhile Serie A got gifted a CL place without deserving it.

I've said before that looking at the teams quality and success in recent years, Premier League should have 7 clubs directly qualifying in the CL while Serie A only one. The way it is you have clubs like Napoli, Roma scrubbing it out every year while quality PL teams find themselves dominating in EL.

Don't get me wrong, the same is valid for the Spanish league and every other league in Europe. This is the CHAMPIONS league not the pitty league. Premier League has 7 champions and the rest only have one every year.

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be happy that this season isn't ruined for Arsenal by yet another 10-2 trashing from bayern
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Post by Kaladin Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:26 am

As the advocate for my club, i wholeheartedly agree, in fact, i suggest you go one step further and give 0 CL spots to Serie A, instead, allocate CL spots to historic clubs who show up like Milan etc

For La Liga you can give them 2 spots

Bundesliga 1 spot

Dominoes Pizza Ligue Uhn 1 spot

PL #Big8 8 spot

This way can guarantee 1 PL team in each group
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Post by S Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:31 am

Precisely

You can show your greatness in EL

That's why you and that other 6th placed team are given a platform for

Better to dominate Qarabag and Krasnodar than get smashed by elite teams year after year afterall

How many more years have to endure seeing Arsenal getting smashed by cricket scorelines in CL ?

Its high time they needed a whole new platform to show their talent and I say EL is most suited for them. Hope it works out well for you guys.
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Post by S Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:33 am

Oh and as for Milan, even Serie A is proving to be too tough a platform for them

As I said before, better to switch to a whole new sport IMO
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Post by Robespierre Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:35 am

8 is not much imo , need to find space for that WBA capable the stop even the Spurs
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Post by rincon Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:46 am

People talking about 7 CL spots for EPL when even Atalanta puts 5 past Everton at home Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:50 am

That's because Everton are shite.

They are currently 16th and very possibly could go down.
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Post by rincon Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:01 pm

I know, but they were 7th last season, would get embarrassed in CL every week.
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Post by Firenze Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:21 pm

that's because they had GOATKAKU last season, one of the best striker in the world that carried them.

Now they have Rooney. Not the same team at all.
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Post by rincon Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:26 pm

Yeah, replacing the striker, Lukaku, with Sandro Ramirez was hilarious. Can't expect Rooney to carry the team with goals by himself.
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Post by CBarca Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:54 pm

I'd kill for a Juve-Tottenham draw at this point tbh

People don't even recall that even GOAT league fodder are Serie A destroyers (everton don't count, their best player is Sigurdsson and a 38 y/o Roonay). Remember Spurs with Modrid, VdV, Crouchino and Bale? Destroyed CL holders Inter 3-1, ran them close 4-3 in the groups. Drew Milan in the RO16 and when everyone thought Spurs were done for, they won over two legs.

Only went out in the competition when Crouchinho got a red against Madrid, a La Liga team, and a league people can respect.

Don't care what Serie Zzzz team it is, I want Spurs to draw them. CBucks Upwards and Onwards
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Post by Robespierre Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:04 pm

tbh we destroyed you too on first leg, we dominated Tottenham in San Siro , then Benitez tried  some shocking experiments (yeah , these are Fachts ) and Bale score 2 goals on extra-time.
True about the rest though (and  Milan won Serie A that year   )
Anyway we have created so much hype on a potential match that I'd be disappointed if not Juve-Spurs now tbh  . Sheva , draw it for GL.
Just reserve a place for me on Tottenham Hotspur FC wagon.
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Post by Firenze Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:17 pm

Yup. Spurs - Juve and Utd - Porto is what the world wants to see IMO. Make it happen.
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Post by rincon Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:26 pm

CSpurs more overconfident about his team than Dante.

How quickly do we forget that last year this team got knocked out by Leverkusen of all teams from the CL and then by Genk... Genk, the 8th best team in Belgium.

Calma. You have a long way to go before being one of the big boys. From a Juve perspective its great draw to get Spurs.
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Post by CBarca Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:54 pm

rofl it's your overconfidence that will do you in. It's not even confidence in Spurs. It's confidence in the GOAT league, and my low opinion of the Juve league.

I've got a seat reserved for Robes, Urban and Frenzy. Anyone who wants on CBucks wild ride can join. When the time comes, Rincon, you better run and don't look back. This is over.
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Post by Luca Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:08 pm

Thankfully no premier league team has done anything relevant in the CL for the past 4 years. This place would've been unbearable

Coming out of your caves now like Milan fans in the summer to enjoy a bit of sun

Winter is coming friends

Juve could easily lose in the round of 16 though, thats how the CL goes. That's why its the best competition

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:15 pm

Spurs wouldn't even get past Arsenal in a CL knockout round
Enough said
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Post by S Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:08 pm

United and Spurs are the easiest teams we could draw

Would feel like a squash match honestly

Usually we peak/find form around Feb-March so it won't be a good time to face Juve
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Post by Warrior Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:10 pm

Tottenham is a nothing club that never achieved anything, no trophy cabinet, no charisma... no wonder why their fans have tingly pants after 1 win vs lethargic Real Madrid Laughing

Only surfing on the vibe of having a decent core of players, like Dortmund or Atletico before them. In 2 years they are back where they belong fighting for the EL spots with Stoke.

I bet a draw at Juventus Stadium would be a pillar moment of Spurs history.
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Post by M99 Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:15 pm

Doc wrote:This was the best reading I had here in weeks. Even the most irrelevant club to ever irrelevant itself into irrelevancy that is Spurs is being talked up...by an Arsenal fan.


m8 what does that say about your corrupt team that got smashed by an irrelevant team that couldn't even beat Gent last year?
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Post by RealGunner Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:45 pm

Juve would trash Spurs lol. Better quality all over the pitch.
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Post by Firenze Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:58 pm

you could make the same statement about Madrid

and nah Juve don't

Kane, Eriksen, Alli > Dybala, Piggy & Sturaro
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Post by RealGunner Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:59 pm

Higuain=Kane
Dybala>>Alli
Sturaro>>>>>>>Eriksen

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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:08 pm

Kane > Higuain
Eriksen < Dybala
Alli > Costa
Winks << Pjanic
Wanyama > Khedira
Rose < Sandro
Aurier > De Sciglio
Vertonghen > Chiellini
Alderweireld > Barzagli
Sanchez > Rugani
Lloris > Buffon

I’m not so sure they have a better team tbh, but Allegri being >> than Pochettino certainly makes things interesting.
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