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Post by sportsczy Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:13 pm

https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Transferts-le-fc-barcelone-accelere-sur-ousmane-dembele/823148

According to l'Equipe, they're even near reaching personal terms already.

The problem, once more, is that they haven't even reached out to Dortmund yet.  Reaching personal terms with a player while leaving the club in the dark WILL PISS THE CLUB OFF.

Will Barca management ever learn :facepalm:
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:23 pm

Don't think Dortmund will sell no matter the price, it's too late in the transfer window and they have no time to find a replacement.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:29 pm

It doesn't matter whether it's too late or not.

They have just let go of Neymar, if they don't sign a big name and quickly, they'll get crucified at the gates of the Camp Nou.

Brace yourselves, for the transfer rampage is about to start.
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Post by Bankz Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:31 pm

So, let me get this straight. Clubs somehow love to do what they complain about other clubs doing to them? Lol
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Post by rincon Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:34 pm

Deulofeu is already there, this is pointless.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:41 pm

rincon wrote:Deulofeu is already there, this is pointless.


Are you serious? They are not even in the same Stratosphere lmao.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:42 pm

Also Sports all clubs agree terms before agreeing a fee, it may not be right but it's common practice.
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Post by Dante Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:45 pm

sportsczy wrote:https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Transferts-le-fc-barcelone-accelere-sur-ousmane-dembele/823148

According to l'Equipe, they're even near reaching personal terms already.

The problem, once more, is that they haven't even reached out to Dortmund yet.  Reaching personal terms with a player while leaving the club in the dark WILL PISS THE CLUB OFF.

Will Barca management ever learn :facepalm:


Learn ? Learn what ?

What is there to learn when 50% of their players are from La Masia , another 40% are paid release clauses where you don't really negotiate at all and then a 10% are straight up 'pay whatever they ask' to get your man , such as Ibra , Villa , Neymar etc etc

Now let's see where Dembele case falls under... not La Masia ; no release clause that is known of , at least reportedly ;

right , 'pay whatever they ask' it is

they'll pay 100m to Dortmund if they want Dembele , simple

no need to learn anything rofl
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Post by Bankz Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:46 pm

Btw, mundo deportivo is reporting that mbappe has agreed personal terms with barcelona. The sale of neymar convinced him to come as he is sure he'll be a starter in barca. So, there'll be no need buy dembele anyway.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:49 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if you want both Banks tbh.

There were reports of you wanted Dembele last season anyway, none of it would make logical sense but nothing Barca does tbf.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:52 pm

Nick will have a serious nervous breakdown if Barcelona signs Mbappé and Dembelé or either one of them Laughing
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:53 pm

Mbappe makes more sense tbh, would fit perfectly on that left side. With Dembele you would have to move Suarez or Messi to the left side which is awful.
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Post by Ganso Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:54 pm

Bankz wrote:Btw, mundo deportivo is reporting that mbappe has agreed personal terms with barcelona. The sale of neymar convinced him to come as he is sure he'll be a starter in barca. So, there'll be no need buy dembele anyway.

Barcelona as usual reaching personal terms with players before talking to the club lol
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Post by Bankz Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:56 pm

Btw, i've never really liked dembele anyway. Seems like a headless chicken to me, sort of a less agressive di maria tbh. I hope barca don't touch him with a 20ft pole. Mbappe on the other hand is a better prospect imo. I'd rather spend 130M for him than spend 100M on dembele. Tbh, i don't even think mbappe is all that but at least, i'm willing to take my chances on him. Theres just no world class proven attacker out there anymore.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:56 pm

Ganso wrote:
Bankz wrote:Btw, mundo deportivo is reporting that mbappe has agreed personal terms with barcelona. The sale of neymar convinced him to come as he is sure he'll be a starter in barca. So, there'll be no need buy dembele anyway.

Barcelona as usual reaching personal terms with players before talking to the club lol


I don't get why this is a big deal lol, every single club does this.

Why do you think Agents are so big lol and paid so much.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:59 pm

Dembele on Barcelona:

[Barcelona] is a great club and all players would like to play at a club like that," the Frenchman said to Gol.

"It is a pleasure to be able to see your name on the list of players who Barcelona want.

"We'll be calm and see what happens."

Ok one down. Mbappé next.
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Post by Socur Toxanarosa Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:00 pm

These young guys shouldn't move so soon to Barça and Real, they probably are not mature enough yet do deal with the pressure, Barça should buy the likes of Griezmann, Dybala and Coutinho who will have an immediate impact while still being young enough.
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Post by Bankz Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:05 pm

Marcelo bechler the guy who broke the neymar news first has just said that coutinho to barca is a done deal. Meaning, we would only have money left for only either mbappe or dembele. Hmm, seems the neymar transfer saga has done the guys career an elevator.
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Post by Winter is Coming Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:08 pm

Socur Toxanarosa wrote:These young guys shouldn't move so soon to Barça and Real, they probably are not mature enough yet do deal with the pressure, Barça should buy the likes of Griezmann, Dybala and Coutinho who will have an immediate impact while still being young enough.


Neymar came here when he was 21 and it was fine. As long as Messi is here, it's probably better for them, since he's going to be the one who gets singled out the most, which allows the younger players to not feel too much pressure.
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Post by Bankz Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:10 pm

I dont think the pressure can get to you that much if you are in a big team surrounded by great players especially in barca where everyone seems to be generous. That being said, barca will be better of with griezmann and coutinho tbh, instead of all these kids who've barely played 50 matches in their career. We don't even know if they're injury prone ffs.
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Post by Socur Toxanarosa Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:20 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:
Socur Toxanarosa wrote:These young guys shouldn't move so soon to Barça and Real, they probably are not mature enough yet do deal with the pressure, Barça should buy the likes of Griezmann, Dybala and Coutinho who will have an immediate impact while still being young enough.


Neymar came here when he was 21 and it was fine. As long as Messi is here, it's probably better for them, since he's going to be the one who gets singled out the most, which allows the younger players to not feel too much pressure.


It's not only about the age, Neymar was mature as *bleep* at 21, won libertadores leading Santos, led Brazil 2012 olympics team, won 2013 confeds as the best player by far and was the best player not playing in Europe for about 3 years.

Mbappe has 1 good season and Dembele about 2. They're in the perfect spot for their age right now. Also, Neymar is a once in a lifetime talent, like Messi, these guys plays at 17 in teams like Barcelona and Brazil, but they are the ultimate exception.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:26 pm

Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
Mbappe has 1 good season and Dembele about 2. They're in the perfect spot for their age right now.

And both of them are slightly overrated (by Madrid fans mainly).

I watched them both (not too closely), and while I thought they were talented, I still didn't feel that the hype surrounding them was justified.

But the reason I'm not totally against them coming to Madrid (like I firmly was with Pogba) is that there are no promising strikers out there anymore -  That and the fact that I have had enough with Benzema and Bale. I'm desperate enough at this point to be willing to take a gamble with Mbappe than endure another season with those two.

But I can tell you right now they won't be another CR7 or Messi. Heck, I even have problems picturing them reaching Neymar's level.

They're just the two brightest bulbs in an otherwise broken chandelier.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:39 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Also Sports all clubs agree terms before agreeing a fee, it may not be right but it's common practice.

You ask for permission to talk to the player from the club and then start talks/negotiations with the player and finally talk fee with the club once the player is on board...  that's the common practice.  It's actually illegal to talk to a player without club consent, which is why Monaco complained about City and another regarding Mbappe earlier this summer because they hadn't asked permission first.

Shows some class... something Barca never had so it's not like it's expected anyhow.  That part is true.
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Post by guest7 Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:47 pm

You're comparing Barcas class to other clubs standard. That's where you are wrong...
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Post by zigra Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:48 pm

Socur Toxanarosa wrote: Neymar is a once in a lifetime talent, like Messi


You should get off these drugs.
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