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Post by sportsczy Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:27 am

The Mbappe rumor is 135 mil euros + bonuses.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:46 am

Which is fine then you sell Bale

PSG are about to rekt the transfer record, it would not shock me if Monaco ask more
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Post by Turok_TTZ Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:54 pm

Marca reporting plan b should m'bappe not come.

Dolberg? Berardi?

*Vomits*

Dutch league ain't exactly a good measurement. Don't like berardi either, why are we being linked with scrubs?

I really hope we bring in M'bappe now.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:19 pm

Dolberg is quite good, though I really don't see that happening.

I don't really see any viable plan Bs, a bit concerned this Mbappe deal hasn't been wrapped up. If this was done on the front end we would have had him for 120m a month ago and watched the rest of our transfers out inflate (Morata, James, Danilo etc.) Now we are likely going to overpay even more.

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Post by sportsczy Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:24 pm

The error made was the expectation that Mbappe would just sit there and say "yes" whenever we wanted. When Flo asked him to do that, the entire family and Mbappe politely laughed (metaphorically)... it was a bad move. That triggered further conversations with City and even PSG subsequemtly.

MBappe doesn't care about competition, according to reports, but he does want clear guidelines and representations. He got neither. In fact, again according to reports, Zidane has had to follow up with assurances... that haven't entirely worked.

Strangely, Flo didn't make a good impression apparently.

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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:33 pm

I know I'm over simplifying and exaggerating but it really shouldn't be that difficult. He would be playing for the biggest club in the world under a French legend who wants to nurture young French talent, he would be able to learn from one of the best in club history in Ronaldo, not to mention he would be due for a massive pay rise.

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Post by Turok_TTZ Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:00 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:Dolberg is quite good, though I really don't see that happening.
Scoring 20-plus goals in all competitions being under 21 is impressive. But I question the quality of the league.

Been quite a long time since I've seen a star come out of the Dutch League. Since....Suarez?

Having said that, 7 goals in Europa League may be the difference between him and berardi. Though in truth, should by some off-chance we fail in bringing m'bappe, I would rather us bring in Aubameyang.

Or Martial. I hear Mourinho is open to selling him. That fool never truly appreciates young talent
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:19 pm

we should not be so concerned when the core of the team is not changing. we all understand what Mbappe would mean if we sign him, but if we don't, we can grab any CF or i would actually prefer another winger or inside forward to do the job for a year or so
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:24 pm

I know a certain Arsene Wenger who would be more inclined to sell Sanchez to us than city

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:45 pm

Alexis, however good he is, doesn't fit into our transfer policy. he is turning 29 this winter, so it's a no.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:02 pm

@Turok people get caught up in the Eredivisie producing young "star" attacking players each year, it just isn't that way anymore. That is not to say we don't produce quality players, most of whom are on the defensive side. Since Suarez we have had Eriksen, Vertonghen, Alderweireld continues to top defensive charts, Depay is starting to play better now that he's not at United, Blind, De Vrij, van Dijk, watch out for de Ligt- young kid will be a world beater one day, Cillessen for Barca, Strootman and van Ginkel have had their injury issues, and Bazoer is another young one to come out to name some

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Post by titosantill Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:32 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:I know I'm over simplifying and exaggerating but it really shouldn't be that difficult. He would be playing for the biggest club in the world under a French legend who wants to nurture young French talent, he would be able to learn from one of the best in club history in Ronaldo, not to mention he would be due for a massive pay rise.


lol this isn't 2003, if florentino wants to sign players the "you're going to play for Real Madrid spiel" isn't enough to sway anyone anymore. its like trying to court a lady and using the roses are red...line in 2017, she might even spray mace in your face. there are many clubs that can offer more money, and even prestige, maybe not madrid type prestige, but prestige all the same

for me, i have had little to no idea on who we should sign over the last two years, i know we need to do something to avoid being undermanned and to promote competition, but i'm just hoping the technical staff and president have a proper plan...oh and i don't want any talent who will come here and be star-struck, happy to sit on the bench and not compete for a spot....no eredivisie dudes, for now
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Post by Turok_TTZ Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:57 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:@Turok people get caught up in the Eredivisie producing young "star" attacking players each year, it just isn't that way anymore. That is not to say we don't produce quality players, most of whom are on the defensive side. Since Suarez we have had Eriksen, Vertonghen, Alderweireld continues to top defensive charts, Depay is starting to play better now that he's not at United, Blind, De Vrij, van Dijk, watch out for de Ligt- young kid will be a world beater one day, Cillessen for Barca, Strootman and van Ginkel have had their injury issues, and Bazoer is another young one to come out to name some

I guess I am just reminiscing of the times of Van Nistelrooy and Huntelaar. Those two would be more than welcome in our current setup.

As much as I like to diss classic 9s, the ones who were actually good are usually top tier. I don't mind us signing classic 9s but they actually have to be good damn it. too many clowns these days.

Hence why I prefer Modern CFs in the mold of Benzema. Have the same finishing but able to do much more than just score goals. Though some of you think Benzema is past it, I'm still in the thought that him staying here is fine as it is.

We need a backup and eventual successor to Benzema, nick. Only M'bappe and Martial fit the bill. Aubameyang is more of a short term solution. Benz isn't getting any younger. and neither is Cristiano for that matter. Even if he fully converts to being a striker, not sure how long Cristiano has it in him... rather not take the risk. all the guys i mention have excellent speed and good enough technique. Firm opinion that is the bare minimum as to who should be upfront: fast and not a bloody donkey on the ball.
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Post by SuperMAG Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:23 pm

Incase we cant get mbappe, we need to dembele asap as if neymar goes to psg, he is the first one for barca to replace him. Thats why i want neymar to stay.

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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:26 pm

Zidane conforms Danilo's departure in his presser and says we are a striker short with Morata's departure.

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Post by The Madrid One Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:40 am

I doubt the preferred option is to bring Mbappe now, i believe Perez has even alluded this, if he ends up going somewhere else then so be it, there's overbooking in our squad as it stands and i don't see Bale or Benzema leaving yet to alleviate that. As for the backup striker, if we do bring in one then it should be an Adebayor/Chicharito type option, again, with the squad overbooking in mind. Morata was hardly pivotal imo.

As for Ceballos, i think he definitely stays and i think i prefer him as a prospect over Kovacic. We might want to just go ahead and give the whole Copa Del Rey competition to our "B Team."
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Post by Turok_TTZ Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:56 am

thats funny, as of right now I prefer Kovacic over Ceballos TMO.
Ceballos is impressive but Kovacic is more proven and just needs more games. the man also makes runs into the defense with acceleration not often seen in mids. But we'll see. Both have Isco to worry about.

Y'all don't realize this but Zidane will give bale chances to return to the starting 11. If we're not selling him, consider him one of the mainstays until Zidane says otherwise. Florentino and Zidane still have strong faith in Bale. Do not forget this.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:35 am

Signing Mbappe doesn't overbook the squad IMO. Benzema needs real competition considering how poor he was last season- so no on the adebayor/chicharito type.

If Benzema finds form Mbappe can play anywhere across the front 3 so Bale injured, no problem, Ronaldo needs resting for that CL group stage match, no problem.

If there is another quality striker who can play LW and RW I'm all ears. That's my 1 issue with Dembele- who is a fantastic player don't get me wrong- but he's a winger, we need someone who can push Benzema too.

The only other players who fit that mold are Sanchez and Neymar(? A bit?). I don't see us going for either.

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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:22 pm

Having a striker to cover for Ronaldo /Bale will just hamper Isco's minutes and we will be back to square one. If we get a striker it should be solely to play as a CF and not across the frontline.

Sanchez couldn't hack it at Barca, he won't hack it with us either. If Mbappe is too pricey we should go for Belotti. Sandro was available for peanuts too
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:09 pm

are you talking about the same belotti for whom Torino is asking north of 70 millions? that belotti? lol
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Post by chad4401 Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:35 pm

sportsczy wrote:The error made was the expectation that Mbappe would just sit there and say "yes" whenever we wanted. When Flo asked him to do that, the entire family and Mbappe politely laughed (metaphorically)... it was a bad move. That triggered further conversations with City and even PSG subsequemtly.

MBappe doesn't care about competition, according to reports, but he does want clear guidelines and representations. He got neither. In fact, again according to reports, Zidane has had to follow up with assurances... that haven't entirely worked.

Strangely, Flo didn't make a good impression apparently.

All of this sounds like bs stop making stuff up, the fee is stupid for a guy who has 6 month of footy under his belt, that the real sticking point.

halamadrid2 wrote:Having a striker to cover for Ronaldo /Bale will just hamper Isco's minutes and we will be back to square one. If we get a striker it should be solely to play as a CF and not across the frontline.

Sanchez couldn't hack it at Barca, he won't hack it with us either. If Mbappe is too pricey we should go for Belotti. Sandro was available for peanuts too


Isco is a flop you need to get that in your head, stop trying to hype his pity minutes, wouldn't surprise me if left next summer, since no amount of campaigning by marca can buy him a start.

SuperMAG wrote:Incase we cant get mbappe, we need to dembele asap as if neymar goes to psg, he is the first one for barca to replace him. Thats why i want neymar to stay.

Dembele isn't providing anything that isn't already in the team why cant you guys just be happy with the team? Without flipping out over players you know won't come to ride the bench?

@vandeez how do you guys know mbappe gonna push benzema? Gather all that from few months and youtube highlights? the guy can easily flop next season, chill out stop exaggerating benzema last season, cause the season before that he was scoring for fun and nobody cared, still wanted him to be replaced, now you guys can't saying 11 goals every second stop being cowardly cause trophy,performance and goals you all make exception to hate on benz.

Anyway the last signing will be a back up cf, if club is going in the direction I think, then cheaper backup option to see what mbappe does next season, benzema leaves regardless the following summer and new cf will come in that it.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:44 pm

so benzema is leaving for sure in 2018?

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:46 pm

Mourinho was asked about De Gea and the possibility of him coming to Madrid:

For a long time the door was closed but we opened it because it is not good to have a player (De Gea) that wants to leave.

We opened the door to them (Real Madrid) and they chose to close it.

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Ever since that fax machine incident, Perez doesn't want anything to do with United. He demanded 80m for Morata and then when they offered him De Gea again, he simply turned them down and closed the door.

That's how you should be treated when you act unprofessional and deliberately send the papers too late.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:56 pm

Glad we didn't get him, he's a loser and we've currently got a winner in between the sticks.

@Nick, 60-80mill is the going rate for any striker nowadays because the market is thin. There are only perhaps 3 top level strikers available right now and they'll all cost 70+mill
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:57 pm

Man united would never offer us to sign De Gea, i dont know why you would assume that. They have 0 interest in selling him.

If anything we made another approach and then bulked at the price united wanted us to pay.

it's done now.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:59 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
@Nick, 60-80mill is the going rate for any striker nowadays because the market is thin. There are only perhaps 3 top level strikers available right now and they'll all cost 70+mill


yeah, so maybe we should not spend that much for a player that is going to be a back up, specially when the resale value will go down.

Morata was a special case because he had built a reputation outside of Madrid and in CL.

we sold Mariano for around 15-20 mil or even less can't remember. how much would Mayoral go for on the market? we can still find players in that 20 mil range that can help without crippling our budget
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