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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:22 pm

Yeah lol, that wasnt my intention though. I believe Hitler is worse anyway Laughing

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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:23 pm

Well I compared you to Hitler with the reasoning behind it. You compared me to a pedophile because... ?

What the actual *bleep* does mental instability or high suicide rate have to do with a fetish for loli's?


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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:25 pm

Also, if I tried to commit suicide I wouldnt consider myself mentally stable, because that'd be hypocrisy. And that's not an insult. Many people have issues with mental health and you have to call things by their name.
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:27 pm

Ok, try keeping it together when your wife or children die. Must be mental instability. Suicide attempts must be something that can't be solved and counseled through THE FREE COUNSELING IN THE MILITARY AND JOINING AN ORG THAT ACCEPTS YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE.

But you can't see that, you just want to discriminate.

You want excellent mental health? How about we don't send young people whose brains haven't fully developed into PTSD inducing situations.

You really don't give a *bleep* about how an accepting military, which it already is, would lower those suicide rates but hey, you just want to ignore the root cause of the problem and judge on the effects.

You know what you're saying right? That People who have attempted suicide can't be responsible. That's what you're saying, you're not just insulting trans-people with your bigotry you're insulting every single person who has felt sad at one point in their life. That any angsty teenager who has attempted because of the emotional instability that teenage hormones can cause has no hope for a mentally stable life.


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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:38 pm

PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRIED TO HARM THEMSLEVES AT ONE POINT IN THEIR LIVES ARE NOT ACCEPTED IN THE MILITARY

Can you understand that?
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:40 pm

Um no, because I know someone with bone deep self-harm cuts who served in Afghanistan. What are you trying to prove. He had these scars before he joined and they're obvious self-harm scars and he was open about their origin.

Seriously are you just completely ignorant or a troll? People are already screened before joining the military and the mental health requirements are already strict enough. You think they would just let someone who cut themselves last week hold a gun? No they require you to function without mental health meds. And the only *bleep* med that a transgender needs is blockers and the hormones of the gender their brain is.

Trump is trying to reason budget, you're trying to reason that we can't think straight. Notice the difference?
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:51 pm

Did 'I say someone who tried to commit suicide cannot go on and live a happy life? I'm just saying there's a high change they'll try again. Would you want these people to work around nuclear weapons, for instance? There's many examples of people being discharged from military for mental reasons.

My last post here.
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:55 pm

Myesyats wrote:Did 'I say someone who tried to commit suicide cannot go on and live a happy life? I'm just saying there's a high change they'll try again.


Read your own sentence... Are you really that stupid that you don't understand what you're saying?

Wait what am I saying? You've already shown that with the pedophile comment and that you can't even explain how you made the link between suicide and a fetish for loli's. You're discriminating and making blanket statements despite even recognizing that the military can recognize and discharge people with issues.

Let me try and put it in this way to try and change your mind about your perceived mental instability of us:

Actually treating Gender Dysphoria has the highest success rate of any "mental disorder"

Of all the people who've attempted suicide we have the highest chance for a happy life because GD can be cured unlike most mental issues. The thing is, people like you stand in the way of that cure.
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:19 pm

Just act like I never said anything about this matter. I only tried to rationalize the ban with FACTS, you provided 0 facts, called me Hitler and now reported me. Typical
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:40 pm

No you tried to rationalize the ban because we kill ourselves (because of how people like you think). And then you compared us to pedophiles. I'm glad I'm not the only one that called you out on that. You really think I'm going to make the effort to link the papers that back up my statements with the way you're arguing with blanket statements? One of my arguements was anecdotal anyway and a pretty good anectdotal story to disprove your statement. You want me to ask him for his service records and pictures of his arms? That's more effort than you've shown to be worth.

You're just trying to defend your own bigotry despite being shown it's bigotry.
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:00 pm

I don't discriminate transgender people. I refer to anyone with mental health issues, have you failed to seize that?

Also, if you dont like Trump's decisions you can always move to another country, you're not a prisoner. Remember that he was voted for by the same people that pass you on the street everyday
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:07 pm

And you failed to recognize that GD has no lasting mental health effects. So you are discriminating by lumping us in with the uncurable mental disorders and saying we can't even be bothered to apply. Bigotry is defending your ignorance which you continue to do so.

You're defending the ban because of mental health reasons when the military already has systems in place for that which you recognize yourself. So why defend a purely discriminatory ban against people with GD? That is discrimination and there's nothing you can change about that if you keep defending the proposed ban.
 
There's a reason why I've never even considered living in the United States.

The fact that you still haven't explained or apologized for the pedophilia comment says more than enough.
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:16 pm

Bellabong wrote:And you failed to recognize that GD has no lasting mental health effects.

Given that you are fully accepted for who you are, right? Which even the president of the most influential country in the world doesn't... and so wouldnt people in the army (from where i'm from at least)

I will not be repeating same things over and over again, so this is my final post on this.
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:25 pm

And the Pentagon doesn't agree with the Presidents tweets. So the support is already there. So what are you playing at?

Do you even have an army? See what ignorant statements are like?
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Post by Unique Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:34 pm

Betty La Fea wrote:
Bellabong wrote:I don't understand the pressure of being trans? Mate I tried to drown myself (discovered you can't) and planned to asphyxiate myself with 100% Argon gas because I couldn't get over the fear of how the world would react to me. Can I go off on this guy please GL. But there's a reason he's 25%, he'll get himself banned eventually.


A guy on 25% told me to go back to China and bragged about choking and "Slapping around women. I wouldnt bet on 25% being gone any time soon for this if that couldnt get another individual in similar state. You gotta talk shiite to them so the world knows you are right Smile

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A war hero will always be a war hero. Go to his wikipedia page and read what he went through--it's incredible.

Dropping bombs on the vietnamese people?


Not just people, civilians.

Operation Rolling Thunder, which McCain was participating in before being shot down, killed at the least 100 thousand or so innocent people whose only crime was living in a land where people wanted to be free, not any different from the war the forefathers of America fought.
still taking the money and shitting on the USA every chance you get betty.
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Post by CBarca Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:58 pm

Actually I won't get into it.

Happy to see McCain vote no. This is a huge embarrassment and blow to the GOP
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Post by M99 Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:22 pm

Wow, so far in this thread, transgender people being broadly generalized as mentally unstable and being compared to pedophiles.

Unique still talking about an American like he is an outsider and not a US citizen.
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Post by zigra Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:48 pm

Betty La Fea wrote:
zigra wrote:
CBarca wrote:

A war hero will always be a war hero. Go to his wikipedia page and read what he went through--it's incredible.

Dropping bombs on the vietnamese people?


Not just people, civilians.

Operation Rolling Thunder, which McCain was participating in before being shot down, killed at the least 100 thousand or so innocent people whose only crime was living in a land where people wanted to be free, not any different from the war the forefathers of America fought.

Yeah I know, that's what I meant.
Hero's the last word I'd use to describe the people who did this.
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Post by Unique Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:04 pm

M99 wrote:Wow, so far in this thread, transgender people being broadly generalized as mentally unstable and being compared to pedophiles.

Unique still talking about an American like he is an outsider and not a US citizen.
is that a Japanese solider and a Japanese flag in his profile there Wink
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:32 pm

Yea he is gone.
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Post by Pedram Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:42 pm

RG finally dropping that ban hammer on fascists. :bow:
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Post by LeVersacci Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:49 pm

About damn time.
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Post by CBarca Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:25 pm

Huge day for LeVersacci
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Post by FennecFox7 Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:31 pm

Lol. I'm liberal myself but I didn't see anything he said wrong. It's his opinion. SJW's and feminists are everywhere here. It's sad. It's called free speech. but hey, live in your fantasy world
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Post by Freeza Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:31 pm

I stayed out. That was too much for even me Laughing
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Post by Unique Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:32 pm

how long has he been banned for
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