Blue Barrett wrote:Not sure why fans of other leagues try to cry foul at the PL's TV money. We earned it through an extended period of consistency and delivering great entertainment to fans around the world. Do that with your league and you'll earn something similar in TV money too. It's that simple.

I like how your also leaving out that your league is the easiest to watch for foreigners due to to language. It's the language we are all on here communicating (mind you I am Mexican and your little badge says your Cuban). That goes along way.

Yaya Toure this season:

Exiled, trained alone for almost half a season, came back to the team, performed well and cemented a starting spot, has become a key to Man City midfield all at the age of 33

Paul Pogba this season:

15-20 hairs, a few dyes and some dabs mixed in all while being the most expensive footballer and only 23 years old

Some of these players today are so damn lazy ffs

This season is a write off at least in my book as far as Pogba is concerned. Do all the dabbing, hair dyeing and showboating you want in the next 3 months. If this sonofagun continues this same shit again next season with the smug attitude that he is above his teammates and can do whatever he want on the pitch, then....  We will see.    
So until then, lets continue slamming his poverty dabmate Jesse shitgard.

Oh i did not realize some united fans were actually unhappy about pogbomb

Not unhappy. Content to fairly happy. In large parts he has been annoying. Mourinho praising him after a shower of shit performance against Southampton in the final of EFL cup was cringe, confusing and irritating. Most(including myself) are annoyed cos he is getting far too leeway and undroppable however bad you play status. Hopefully it will change as I expect Jose to be a bit more strict with him next season.

Utter nonsense player

I'm ashamed to say he played/plays for two great clubs

Wish Roy Keane was still around so I could see him end this clown's football career and all his other despicable antics.

Should have scored just before they equalized. Instead it was a lazy shot right at their GK. Sums up his attitude lately. Showed promise before XMAS but now looks like a poor mans Huddlestone.

What do you think his problem is? the step up in quality of football that the PL brings? his physical attributes should fit the British game well.

I don't think his footballing IQ is very high. I question his motivation, but I have no sympathy for him. I do believe he would have rather gone to Madrid but his own greed blinded him.

I still believe he will come good.

Firenze wrote:Should have scored just before they equalized. Instead it was a lazy shot right at their GK. Sums up his attitude lately. Showed promise before XMAS but now looks like a poor mans Huddlestone.

What do you think his problem is? the step up in quality of football that the PL brings? his physical attributes should fit the British game well.

I don't think his footballing IQ is very high. I question his motivation, but I have no sympathy for him. I do believe he would have rather gone to Madrid but his own greed blinded him.

I still believe he will come good.

I think not having any rest has hurt him. He rolled off of a full season for Juventus playing 40+ games into a Euro that he made the finals, into a couple week break, to United and has basically been playing ever since. For a player that relies a lot on his physicality and energy, he could just be burnt out. Not that it is an excuse but I'm certain it is a factor.

It's also at the point of the season where each team steps up a gear in terms of their competition and closing in on trophies. Maybe he does not prioritize the Europa League trophy as one he should be aiming for. It is obvious United is out of the running to win the league, so he may have, unfortunately, have already shut it down for the season.

I disagree about his footballing IQ, I think it is high, I think its his actual IQ that may not be that high. The move was short sighted, the pressure was always going to be there and the fact of the matter is, he has not been great, yet. I think he will come good though, definitely needs a midfield revamp in the summer.

As for his motivation, he really did want United is what I feel. Unfinished business and China like wages.

Again... the issue is that he's playing all over the place.  Mostly, he's playing low in a 4231 with Lingard, Rashford, Ibra and M... yan playing up.  You only have two mids here.  So they need to cover the back 4 and move the ball up the pitch.  It's a tooooon of work.  

But a few times... you're asking him to move up to play on the attack late in games.  Well, he's burnt.  The lack of finishing that I notice look like tired legs.  He just doesn't have his balance, which is a sign of fatigue.

No idea why he went to Man U.  Mourinho only plays one system and it is completely counter to what Pogba is about.  Well now he's stuck.  

I'll never rate a CM in a double pivot on goals and assists because that's just insane talk.  A CM in a double pivot is about ball recovery and linking defense to attack.  Love it or hate it... that's the role Pogba will play as long as Mourinho is his manager.

I blame that fat pig he has as an agent.  He talked him into going for Man U.  The talk in France all along was that he'd go to barca, madrid or nowhere... somebody got in his ear about just the cash.  Not that I blame him... but he sacrificed his football for money.

It's kind of funny taking into consideration all the hype during summer. Many Yanited fans were talking like they were signing Maradona

windkick wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:Not sure why fans of other leagues try to cry foul at the PL's TV money. We earned it through an extended period of consistency and delivering great entertainment to fans around the world. Do that with your league and you'll earn something similar in TV money too. It's that simple.

I like how your also leaving out that your league is the easiest to watch for foreigners due to to language. It's the language we are all on here communicating (mind you I am Mexican and your little badge says your Cuban). That goes along way.

Right. Funny enough, I've never been to Cuba a day in my life. Florida + London. I'm only half Cuban. And I'm not even that good with Spanish. Your point doesn't apply to me.

Even still, for someone who doesn't understand a word of English, how does watching a broadcast in English vs watching a broadcast in Italian make any difference? They're both gibberish to his ears. That's a lazy excuse imo. I understand English is an extra factor that'll bring in that extra bit of money no matter what since it's more of a universal language than Spanish or German or Italian but it's not enough to cause the HUGE disparity in revenue. There are other factors involved there. Besides, most people that watch it around the world watch their local broadcasts....which broadcast in their local languages. So yeah, again, you're wrong.

Valkyrja wrote:It's kind of funny taking into consideration all the hype during summer. Many Yanited fans were talking like they were signing Maradona

The *bleep* hype all over twitter was insane. Stormzy and all. It's nobody's fault Jose doesn't know how to use Pogba.

sportsczy wrote:Again... the issue is that he's playing all over the place.  Mostly, he's playing low in a 4231 with Lingard, Rashford, Ibra and M... yan playing up.  You only have two mids here.  So they need to cover the back 4 and move the ball up the pitch.  It's a tooooon of work.  

But a few times... you're asking him to move up to play on the attack late in games.  Well, he's burnt.  The lack of finishing that I notice look like tired legs.  He just doesn't have his balance, which is a sign of fatigue.

No idea why he went to Man U.  Mourinho only plays one system and it is completely counter to what Pogba is about.  Well now he's stuck.  

I'll never rate a CM in a double pivot on goals and assists because that's just insane talk.  A CM in a double pivot is about ball recovery and linking defense to attack.  Love it or hate it... that's the role Pogba will play as long as Mourinho is his manager.

I blame that fat pig he has as an agent.  He talked him into going for Man U.  The talk in France all along was that he'd go to barca, madrid or nowhere... somebody got in his ear about just the cash.  Not that I blame him... but he sacrificed his football for money.

I would have expected Jose to play a 4-3-3 with Carrick sitting and Herrera on Pogba's right, using Carrick/Herrera as Makelele/Ballack(Essien/Tiago), freeing up Pogba to play a Lampard type role i.e track back when needed but float box to box and be ready for late runs into the box, supplying wingers and the striker as well as opening up a passing option for Carrick and striking for goal from the edge of the box every now and then. But hey!

Valkyrja wrote:It's kind of funny taking into consideration all the hype during summer. Many Yanited fans were talking like they were signing Maradona

Most just liked to use it to push the agenda that we signed the hottest commodity in football. Beating Madrid in the process. They wouldn't be entirely wrong.

Personally, I was on here on record stating how I would have rather used that money to sign Kante, James and Matuidi during the entire transfer saga.

United beating us to Pogba is like us beating Barca to Danilo or Barca beating us to Gomes. It has turned out to be a blessing in disguise, because if we'd gotten him then we wouldn't have seen Casemiro become our starter and we would've lost the big games due to not having a proper CDM

Pogba can come good. He is obviously not worth the price tag which we can all agree on. But he is playing for the most defensive coach I've ever witnessed, if you are a flair/attacking player you'll never realise your potential under him.

He is the same guy that started 3 DMs when he was our coach his most important player was Khedira just like Fellaini is now. He doesn't appreciate talent. He wants jobbers who can run around fouling players all game, over controlling a game with the good players he has at his disposal. And when things don't work out he makes passive aggressive comments aimed at his players. Everyone with a brain will know who he talks about but he'll "refuse to name names" lol

United players are obviously not in a position to take him on right now but they need to stand up for their teammates who are being targeted by him

I highly doubt his intellect and motivation. Needs to play his simple game, but when he plays 5 - 10 meter out of his preferred position he doesn't know what to do. Shameful. Juve must be laughin their ass off.

Lmao real Madrid fans 101 when pogba was at juve "omg kroos sucks we need pogba asap to save us", now the same Madrid fans laugh at it him and still trying to make excuses at the same time, the guy is average as bleep outside of party tricks no one fault that footy fans are so easily con'ed, cause everybody think if they say amazing, technique and potential in every post means something, when it just proves you watched too many punditry bs and think you lot have a clue about players, that why you carefully try to observe what players are good at instead of awarding them best this and that, then have to defend every awful performance and rave about OK ones , kroos is playing amazing compared to this guy in 2 man or 3 man midfield, rm fans sports especially have no problem singling him out every chance they get cause he doesn't do shitty tricks and bad shots,no excuses pogba looks and plays like someone who is used to being carried, Sir Alex was spot on and has been proven right in the long run.... Hype culture is killing footy.

chadbot you need a new message template brother

Pogba is an exceptional player. Great kid, spectacular, fun to watch.

He will show it again in coming seasons, there's no doubt about that.
Whether this version of Man Utd under Mourinho is the best ground to show it on is another question.

People laugh at chad but he has been proven right a lot in the last few weeks

Chadito you are the only one around these parts that thinks Pogba is a bad player. He is a fantastic midfielder in a sub par team, and he plays for Yanited. Of course we are going to make fun of him. For a self prophetized football expert you are blind af. We make fun of his performances so what? Dude you are clueless

I never said pogba is a bad player, I said he is average overall midfielder, there is more to footy than being fun to watch, why I can't say that without people being butthurt? And you lot can pretend laugh cause you all know I'm right and can't disprove a single point without spamming lol your wrong while avoiding every point.

Nick its proven you don't know anything about players.... zero, all you do is ride hype train, name one unknown player you have seen and rated before anyone else?

I liked and rated casemiro after 1 game, and I said pogba was average after one game, casemiro proved himself with Porto a lesser team he still looked elite in the cl for them, and pogba looked like dog shit in a lesser team cause he sucks a lot in basic midfielding this is a fact.

Its the same thing with isco, ozil and do maria runs circles around him when comes to vision and actually creating defense splitting chances, now come this Spanish fraud just running doing tricks for the fourth season in a row and he is still amazing for doing nothing but dribbling and scoring fluke goals you know the same reason why Carlo benched in the first place , positioning rubbish, vision rubbish and creativity is rubbish as well, if he is so amazing why is he still bench player BBC no benzema right? No its cause he literally offers nothing to make him a starter.

All those saying pogba will improve once manu mid improves wow you guys are geniuses, but that because they will hide his flaws not because he will improve as a player, so he will still be an average mid that does tricks and wonder goals, then the nicks of the world, runs around acting smug throwing shit ton of gloss over every average performance like before.

chad laying down the law

He's no Illarramendi, that's for sure

Isn't that the point tho? Every single player has flaws and weakness its up to a coach to try to cover those as much as possible and utilize their strength. At Juve Conte and Allegri did exactly that, but at Man U, Mou isn't really doing that has he just expect Pogba to do something while his weakness is exposed.

Chad is Madrid's Harmonica without the crazy stats...  nuf said.   A shame too because he didn't start out that way. He's was a fanboy for sure always... but now he's just a fanatic. Why engage?