Re: General UK politics

by RealGunner Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:24 pm

Love house of banter

Happier times. Simpler times. pic.twitter.com/KvJogFGiBp
— Andy Ha (@_AndyHa) July 1, 2016

by Kaladin Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:34 pm

House of Banter in decline, look at those empty seats, was nothing like the Cameron/Miliband era, so many jobbers

by RealGunner Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:38 pm

Nah this is from last season lol.

But yea banter isn't as strong this year with Old man Corbyn and dinner lady Theresa May

by Art Morte Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:39 am

Gotta say that the UK's chamber for parliament must be the most underwhelming in the world. No individual chairs, no desks, just 650 people crammed in that small room on those ugly benches like sardines in a can.

by RealGunner Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:48 pm

Seeing Ed Balls in strictly....

my eyes

by Tomwin Lannister Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:06 pm

Not my proudest fap

by RealGunner Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:09 pm

*falls asleep day before 2015 election*
*wakes up*
*switches on TV*
"WTF!!!"#Strictly #EdBalls https://t.co/RqVgJMhmsC
— David Schneider (@davidschneider) October 15, 2016

....

by RealGunner Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:51 pm

Ed Balls doing Gangnam Style is the TV moment of the year. pic.twitter.com/GvnPkpsmro
— Andy Ha (@_AndyHa) November 12, 2016

I am done

by RealGunner Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:48 pm

Jo Cox was murdered by a member of Britain First. Political reason rather than a random murder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37978582

by RealGunner Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:07 am

for any Americans not familiar with the British political system, it's pretty much just this pic.twitter.com/MnCAR7l3qZ
— Hannah Jewell (@hcjewell) November 16, 2016

by rwo power Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:34 am

@RG

That almost sounded as if that guy was saying "Hodor! Hodor!" hmm

by RealGunner Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:06 pm

Autumn statement announced

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38068358

Confirmation that by end of parliament tax free allowance will be £12,500 and 40% tax threshold will be $50k #AutumnStatement
— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 23, 2016

Confirmation of increase in National Living Wage from £7.20 an hour to £7.50 #AutumnStatement
— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 23, 2016

Universal credit taper reduction from 65% to 63% is equivalent to tax cut for low paid in 2021/22 (!!!) of £700m
— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 23, 2016

Fuel duty rise cancelled for seventh successive year - makes mockery of fuel duty formula, arguably #AutumnStatement
— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 23, 2016

Wow. OBR forecasts £220bn increase in national debt by end of parliament to staggering £1.945 trillion. Huge Brexit impact
— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 23, 2016

So to be clear, Brexit impact on public finances is a deterioriation of £220bn by end of parliament. Worse than feared #AutumnStatement
— Robert Peston (@Peston) November 23, 2016

shieeettt

also

What it means for you

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38069554

by rwo power Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:35 pm

So how much did the UK pay annually to the EU for full membership? £12.9 billions gross, that is £6.5 billions net (numbers from 2015 - source)?

That would have been almost 34 years of full EU membership... Looks like you saved a lot of money due to leaving this costly club...

by Adit Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:30 pm

Rwo

Obviously they didn't leave for any Economic reasons. They left to stop Muslims coming into their country. That's the truth, anybody could see that leaving a free trade set up is detrimental financially.

Why British weren't successful in integrating this Muslims into main stream soceity ? I don't know but if internet is to be believed there are more radical Muslims in Britain than in India despite India having 1000x Muslims than Britain. Which is well documented from the number of ISIS fighters joined from Britain.

by Unique Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:44 pm

Adit wrote:Rwo

Obviously they didn't leave for any Economic reasons. They left to stop Muslims coming into their country. That's the truth, anybody could see that leaving a free trade set up is detrimental financially.

Why British weren't successful in integrating this Muslims into main stream soceity ? I don't know but if internet is to be believed there are more radical Muslims in Britain than in India despite India having 1000x Muslims than Britain. Which is well documented from the number of ISIS fighters joined from Britain.

that is pretty close to being spot on. but you cant say that because its classed as racist.

by rwo power Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:05 pm

@Adit

It seems quite some people fell for the 350m-per-week-for-the-NHS bus as well, though.

by Unique Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:18 pm

no body fell for that. but money saved from the EU and stopping people walking into Britain when ever they want will slowly fix the NHS that as of now is on its knees

by rincon Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:42 am

Unique wrote:no body fell for that. but money saved from the EU and stopping people walking into Britain when ever they want will slowly fix the NHS that as of now is on its knees

Only 1 of these two things can happen (if that) but not both. The EU will require freedom of movement for access to the single market (or basically any favorable deal to the UK in economic terms).

by VivaStPauli Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:17 am

It's hilarious how you guys are trying to polish a turd.
Even in hindsight, and with all the mentally tantric contortions you bend your arguments into, Brexit still is dumb as f*ck, and won't help anyone.

The only people who might see a grain of benefit in this shit sandwich are racists, who at least might hope to see less immigrants.

by Adit Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:17 am

Unique wrote:
that is pretty close to being spot on. but you cant say that because its classed as racist.

well, British were pretty racists during Brexit. They used Muslims taking over argument to fuel the fear. I really doubt British would do this cutting off nose to spite the face act aka Brexit if the refugees were from some white European countries.

Every Muslims are not the same. A Jordanian,iranian,indonesian,turks etc will have no problem assimilating easily into main stream. Britain probably got unlucky with Pakistanis whose nations ideology was based on infamous "two nation theory" which says Muslims and infediles can't co exist in a single nation. It would not be a surprise if they created a parallel nation there.

by Sri Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:52 pm

Adit wrote:
well, British were pretty racists during Brexit. They used Muslims taking over argument to fuel the fear. I really doubt British would do this cutting off nose to spite the face act aka Brexit if the refugees were from some white European countries.

Every Muslims are not the same. A Jordanian,iranian,indonesian,turks etc will have no problem assimilating easily into main stream. Britain probably got unlucky with Pakistanis whose nations ideology was based on infamous "two nation theory" which says Muslims and infediles can't co exist in a single nation. It would not be a surprise if they created a parallel nation there.

Ok this is not completely true tbh. A lot of pro-Brexiteers were angry about central and eastern European blue collar laborers (ergo, white) eating into that end of their job market. It was not (entirely) the anti-muslim hysteria.

Off-topic: I also don't endorse the all-Pakistanis-are-evil rhetoric that many Indians like to subscribe to. Pakistan is a far-from-perfect state, but then so is India. However, many citizens on either side of the border fall prey to this hatred that the politicians (and the military establishment in Pakistan) want to propagate. Peace between the countries will never happen as long as it is so easy to rile up passions about the civilians on either side of the border. smh

by Unique Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:03 pm

Adit wrote:
Unique wrote:
that is pretty close to being spot on. but you cant say that because its classed as racist.
well, British were pretty racists during Brexit. They used Muslims taking over argument to fuel the fear. I really doubt British would do this cutting off nose to spite the face act aka Brexit if the refugees were from some white European countries.

Every Muslims are not the same. A Jordanian,iranian,indonesian,turks etc will have no problem assimilating easily into main stream. Britain probably got unlucky with Pakistanis whose nations ideology was based on infamous "two nation theory" which says Muslims and infediles can't co exist in a single nation. It would not be a surprise if they created a parallel nation there.

TBH us brits are not so dumb that you can just tell us Islam is becoming a problem and we will just follow what you say. I mean if someone told us tomorrow that we need to put Chinese people on a watch list because a lot of them are dangerous we are not gonna buy it. First we had brexit then we got trump and as we have seen that some party's in France and Germany that are getting more and more support for the same reasons so that tells you something

by RealGunner Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:48 pm

Paul Nuttall is the new UKIP leader.

On his website's blog which he has now deleted,

-He wants to privatise NHS
-Wants a referendum on abortion
-Against banning discrimination against gay people
-Wants to kick out scottish MPs out of house of common
-Denies climate change

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/28/the-extreme-right-wing-views-of-new-ukip-leader-paul-nuttall

He makes Nigel Farage look like a saint in comparison with his views.

by Art Morte Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:14 pm

It's like pretty much every right-wing party in Europe that have enjoyed sudden success in the last 10 years; the quality of their politicians is badly lagging behind their numerical support.

by RealGunner Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:20 pm

After Trump, absolutely nothing is impossible so kinda expecting UKIP to win the election in the next 20 years lmao.

It's interesting though because quite few labour supporters share the same view as Nuttal. And since Labour hates conservatives more than anything, it won't be hugely surprising for labour supporters to vote for UKIP.

Makes the 2020 elections really interesting already. But a long way to go.

by Art Morte Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:41 pm

How all the Brexit thing goes will define the next election, speculating about other stuff seems moot.

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