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Post by LeSwagg James Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:08 am

The system carries them to another level. Curry is on Kyrie's tier but, playing for the Warriors had people debating whether he was better than LeBron.

All the power to Kerr for getting the most out if his player but, there isn't one clear leader on that team who is running shit. The playoffs proved that.

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Post by McAgger Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:05 am

LeSwagg James wrote:The system carries them to another level. Curry is on Kyrie's tier but, playing for the Warriors had people debating whether he was better than LeBron.

All the power to Kerr for getting the most out if his player but, there isn't one clear leader on that team who is running shit. The playoffs proved that.


You know how many players have been able to get a PER of 30+ in NBA history?

9 Players.

It's that rare because it's one of the hardest advanced statistical analytics to achieve and also one of the most telling.

You know how players have been able to get a PER of 31+ in the history of the game.

4 players.

MJ, Wilt, LeBron, and CURRY.

It's NOT the *bleep* system that he's getting a PER of 31 and is the only players in history to score 30ppg while shooting 50/45/90.

Tell me which one of Wilt, MJ, Lebron played in systems that don't *bleep* utilize their abilities to perfection. For example if LeBron had Steph's usage rate most of his production will go down because he's soooo ball dominant but that is who he is. The best system when Bran is on your team to give him the ball. The best system for your team when Curry is there is what Kerr is running because he knows that's what gets the most production out of his superstar.
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:57 am

David West 21 months ago Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:54 pm

Meh i'm not mad at West, he's doing what he can to get a ring at this stage of his career.

He knows what he is now and he's not going to be anything as even the 3rd option, more power to him imo.
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Post by LeBéninois Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:13 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Meh i'm not mad at West, he's doing what he can to get a ring at this stage of his career.

He knows what he is now and he's not going to be anything as even the 3rd option, more power to him imo.


Apparently Ray allen is considering joining GS too. I can't wait to sse the warriors play. This a huge and exciting challenge for LB and the cavs. Anyways Durant isn't staying there more than 3 years imo. But 3-4 years is what LBJ has got to get more titles.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:37 am

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA
Sources: In last few hours, Bulls calling teams to unload contracts, trying to create space to sign Dwyane Wade. Wade is serious about them.

Would be so *bleep* weird to see Wade in anything other than a Heat jersey.
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Post by LeSwagg James Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:14 am

Don't call me James wrote:
LeSwagg James wrote:The system carries them to another level. Curry is on Kyrie's tier but, playing for the Warriors had people debating whether he was better than LeBron.

All the power to Kerr for getting the most out if his player but, there isn't one clear leader on that team who is running shit. The playoffs proved that.


You know how many players have been able to get a PER of 30+ in NBA history?

9 Players.

It's that rare because it's one of the hardest advanced statistical analytics to achieve and also one of the most telling.

You know how players have been able to get a PER of 31+ in the history of the game.

4 players.

MJ, Wilt, LeBron, and CURRY.

It's NOT the *bleep* system that he's getting a PER of 31 and is the only players in history to score 30ppg while shooting 50/45/90.

Tell me which one of Wilt, MJ, Lebron played in systems that don't *bleep* utilize their abilities to perfection. For example if LeBron had Steph's usage rate most of his production will go down because he's soooo ball dominant but that is who he is. The best system when Bran is on your team to give him the ball. The best system for your team when Curry is there is what Kerr is running because he knows that's what gets the most production out of his superstar.


Where was all of this 'domination' before Steve Kerr arrived? Where was this 'domination' on the 2014 USA team? Why would such a GOAT not even be the second or third best player on that team? hmm

It was no where to be found, that's where it was. He needs to be baby fed in order to play at that level.
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:27 am

WTF WADE?????? WHY?!
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Post by McAgger Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:47 am

His home town is Chicago. Their fanbase is waaaay better than Heat. They are giving him a better contract. No brainer.
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:02 am

Don't call me James wrote:His home town is Chicago. Their fanbase is waaaay better than Heat. They are giving him a better contract. No brainer.

Has absolutely NOTHING to do with fanbase Laughing Bulls fanbase have ZERO connection to Wade. In fact, they've hated him for the most part. It's a business decision in the end and it's an easier PR sell that you're going to your hometown. Just didn't think it'll happen. It's all good though.
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Post by LeSwagg James Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:35 am

The Heat disrespected him, that's why he left. All the pay cuts he has taken for them and they can't even give him $10 million more? They would have gotten that money for KD but not for him. I would have also left.
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Post by CBarca Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:52 am



Future MVP and will be remembered in the same breath as LeCurryDestroyer when he's done, mark my words
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Post by Freeza Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:05 am

LeBron was better at 18 though hmm anyways if he can the shot down he's going to be an amazing player. He's probably gonna be HoF at the end of his career because of his status as a Greek player.

Ingram got the same body type. Which makes me hopeful. Could be a Giannis with a better shot.
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Post by LeSwagg James Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:37 am

CBarca wrote:

Future MVP and will be remembered in the same breath as LeCurryDestroyer when he's done, mark my words


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Post by El Gunner Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:44 am

LeSwagg James wrote:
Don't call me James wrote:
LeSwagg James wrote:The system carries them to another level. Curry is on Kyrie's tier but, playing for the Warriors had people debating whether he was better than LeBron.

All the power to Kerr for getting the most out if his player but, there isn't one clear leader on that team who is running shit. The playoffs proved that.


You know how many players have been able to get a PER of 30+ in NBA history?

9 Players.

It's that rare because it's one of the hardest advanced statistical analytics to achieve and also one of the most telling.

You know how players have been able to get a PER of 31+ in the history of the game.

4 players.

MJ, Wilt, LeBron, and CURRY.

It's NOT the *bleep* system that he's getting a PER of 31 and is the only players in history to score 30ppg while shooting 50/45/90.

Tell me which one of Wilt, MJ, Lebron played in systems that don't *bleep* utilize their abilities to perfection. For example if LeBron had Steph's usage rate most of his production will go down because he's soooo ball dominant but that is who he is. The best system when Bran is on your team to give him the ball. The best system for your team when Curry is there is what Kerr is running because he knows that's what gets the most production out of his superstar.


Where was all of this 'domination' before Steve Kerr arrived? Where was this 'domination' on the 2014 USA team? Why would such a GOAT not even be the second or third best player on that team? hmm

It was no where to be found, that's where it was. He needs to be baby fed in order to play at that level.

Don't you think it's just the case of everyone peaking at the right time?
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Post by McAgger Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:06 pm

What's up with #2 draft picks lately turning out to completely busts.

2008 - Michael Beasley
2009 - Hasheem Thabeet
2010 - Evan Turner
2011 - Derrick Williams
2012 - MKG (definite exception but he's been quite injury prone)
2013 - Victor Oladipo (another exception but probably won't make be a perennial all star or anything)
2014 - Jabari Parker (another one similar to Oladipo, good player but not perennial all star caliber or anything)
2015 - D'Angelo Russell too early to tell
2016 - Brandon Ingram too early to tell

#2 pick is way too valuable to have this many scrubs with only 3 players in the last 8 years that could possibly be multiple time all stars. The rest just been uninspiring role players if that.

Why such a huge drop from number 1 where there's almost always a franchise player (with the exception of Bennett Laughing )
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:21 pm

Parker has had one full season lol.

Way too early to categorise him.
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Post by Freeza Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:20 pm

Jabari looked great post all star. So did Russell. I Think both are gonna be all stars eventually.
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Post by McAgger Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:03 am

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Post by izzy Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:03 am

Don't call me James wrote:What's up with #2 draft picks lately turning out to completely busts.

2008 - Michael Beasley
2009 - Hasheem Thabeet
2010 - Evan Turner
2011 - Derrick Williams
2012 - MKG (definite exception but he's been quite injury prone)
2013 - Victor Oladipo (another exception but probably won't make be a perennial all star or anything)
2014 - Jabari Parker (another one similar to Oladipo, good player but not perennial all star caliber or anything)
2015 - D'Angelo Russell too early to tell
2016 - Brandon Ingram too early to tell

#2 pick is way too valuable to have this many scrubs with only 3 players in the last 8 years that could possibly be multiple time all stars. The rest just been uninspiring role players if that.

Why such a huge drop from number 1 where there's almost always a franchise player (with the exception of Bennett Laughing )


:facepalm:

- You have 9 names there.

- You name 4 dudes who are busts.

- You then name 3 who are exceptions and the other 2, 1 that just finished his rookie season and another who just got drafted.

- You start off the topic with this, "What's up with #2 draft picks lately turning out to completely busts."

My Goodness....... :facepalm:

Next someone will say Melo is a better scorer than LeBron.
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Post by Freeza Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:01 pm

https://streamable.com/hwub

This (:
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Post by dmize Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:19 am

izzy wrote:
Don't call me James wrote:What's up with #2 draft picks lately turning out to completely busts.

2008 - Michael Beasley
2009 - Hasheem Thabeet
2010 - Evan Turner
2011 - Derrick Williams
2012 - MKG (definite exception but he's been quite injury prone)
2013 - Victor Oladipo (another exception but probably won't make be a perennial all star or anything)
2014 - Jabari Parker (another one similar to Oladipo, good player but not perennial all star caliber or anything)
2015 - D'Angelo Russell too early to tell
2016 - Brandon Ingram too early to tell

#2 pick is way too valuable to have this many scrubs with only 3 players in the last 8 years that could possibly be multiple time all stars. The rest just been uninspiring role players if that.

Why such a huge drop from number 1 where there's almost always a franchise player (with the exception of Bennett Laughing )


:facepalm:

- You have 9 names there.

- You name 4 dudes who are busts.

- You then name 3 who are exceptions and the other 2, 1 that just finished his rookie season and another who just got drafted.

- You start off the topic with this, "What's up with #2 draft picks lately turning out to completely busts."

My Goodness....... :facepalm:

Next someone will say Melo is a better scorer than LeBron.


I would say 3, ET isn't a complete bust. Actually the only complete bust is Thabeet, who everyone knew had no business going top 5.

It's not even lately, in any draft of the last 20 years odds are one of the first two picks will be ordinary at best. Not really anything new.
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Post by dmize Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:22 am

Rondo
Wade
Butler


That spacing
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Post by dmize Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:05 am

https://streamable.com/q69f

Dunn is a fvcking problem. He was bullying Mudiay at times
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Post by McAgger Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:27 am

Granny ft coming into the league Proud

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Post by Freeza Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:55 am

Ingram looks absolutely great. So does Russell Proud impressed with Zubac also. Nance of course is still great, so much effort.
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