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Copa América 2016 USA - Final - Chile vs Argentina
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Re: Copa América 2016 USA - Final - Chile vs Argentina
I feel hella bad for Messi.
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Losing on penalties hurts more than losing by 3 or 4 goals because you feel you're so close, yet so far. And whoever misses their penalty isn't going to sleep well at night.
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Re: Copa América 2016 USA - Final - Chile vs Argentina
This feels like Bad Boy Pistons against Jordan before he was able to conquer them.
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After getting knocked out in Houston, Texas has avenged us
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Not looking good for Messi winning for Argentina.
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To be fair Messi has just come up against a superior side in south America in chile. No shame in that.
Nobody thinks any less of Zico for not doing anything of with Brazil in the 80's. Other sides were just better. This Chile is just better.
Nobody thinks any less of Zico for not doing anything of with Brazil in the 80's. Other sides were just better. This Chile is just better.
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Argentina is one of the most passionate NT's in the game. I feel sorry for them as an NT. Its not about Messi. Its Argentina coming so close yet so far. This sport is not about individuals. But football unfortunately has become such a fanboy thing that people feel the need to make this more about Messi than them as a nation.
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S wrote:Argentina is one of the most passionate NT's in the game. I feel sorry for them as an NT. Its not about Messi. Its Argentina coming so close yet so far. This sport is not about individuals. But football unfortunately has become such a fanboy thing that people feel to make this more about Messi than them as a nation.
You're right, unfortunately.
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S wrote:Argentina is one of the most passionate NT's in the game. I feel sorry for them as an NT. Its not about Messi. Its Argentina coming so close yet so far. This sport is not about individuals. But football unfortunately has become such a fanboy thing that people feel to make this more about Messi than them as a nation.
Hasn't Argentina won more Copa Americas than any other nation?
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Ask Argentinians if they are more bothered about Argentina winning it or Messi winning it. When's the last time Argentina won something of some importance btw? Im asking seriously because i don't know.
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I think like 1993 copa right? Unless if you count olympicsS wrote:Ask Argentinians if they are more bothered about Argentina winning it or Messi winning it. When's the last time Argentina won something of some importance btw? Im asking seriously because i don't know.
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S wrote:Ask Argentinians if they are more bothered about Argentina winning it or Messi winning it. When's the last time Argentina won something of some importance btw? Im asking seriously because i don't know.
They won the olympics just a few years ago.
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1993? Wow. That's a long winless streak. Incredible for a footballing nation as talented as Argentina.
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Pitbull taking centre stage Does Pitbull have Chilean roots? Acting like he won the Copa or something
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S wrote:1993? Wow. That's a long winless streak. Incredible for a footballing nation as talented as Argentina.
2008 was 8 years ago, and that squad was pretty much the core which their recent run was built on.
Kun Aguero
Romero
Messi
Di Maria
Mascherano
Lavezzi
All were in that olympic squad.
Argentina have done fine.
The real tragedy is what has happened to brazil. They have NOTHING for a nation that has won 5 world cups and have nearly a quarter of a billion people.
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Betty La Fea wrote:S wrote:1993? Wow. That's a long winless streak. Incredible for a footballing nation as talented as Argentina.
2008 was 8 years ago, and that squad was pretty much the core which their recent run was built on.
Kun Aguero
Romero
Messi
Di Maria
Mascherano
Lavezzi
All were in that olympic squad.
Argentina have done fine.
The real tragedy is what has happened to brazil. They have NOTHING for a nation that has won 5 world cups and have nearly a quarter of a billion people.
you forgot the most important figure there, juan roman riquelme
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messi needs riquelme but he didn't realize it, pity............
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Curious to hear Alex's thoughts.
Personally think Messi had an outstanding tournament and an outstanding game and was MOTM up until the shoot out. I don't think he's weak mentally tbh, he's come clutch many times before. He's just a bad penalty taker. I dont think that should define his performance but he must take some of the blame.
Regardless I think it's stupid to put too much emphasis on this tournament. With or without it he is one of the best players in history and IMO the best ever.
Personally think Messi had an outstanding tournament and an outstanding game and was MOTM up until the shoot out. I don't think he's weak mentally tbh, he's come clutch many times before. He's just a bad penalty taker. I dont think that should define his performance but he must take some of the blame.
Regardless I think it's stupid to put too much emphasis on this tournament. With or without it he is one of the best players in history and IMO the best ever.
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guest_07 wrote:Betty La Fea wrote:S wrote:1993? Wow. That's a long winless streak. Incredible for a footballing nation as talented as Argentina.
2008 was 8 years ago, and that squad was pretty much the core which their recent run was built on.
Kun Aguero
Romero
Messi
Di Maria
Mascherano
Lavezzi
All were in that olympic squad.
Argentina have done fine.
The real tragedy is what has happened to brazil. They have NOTHING for a nation that has won 5 world cups and have nearly a quarter of a billion people.
you forgot the most important figure there, juan roman riquelme
Zabaleta too.
That squad was stacked for the olympics. Golden generation.
Really shows how amazing Maradona was. Won it all with less.
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Olympics is a glorified U-23 tournament. It doesn't have the same level of competitivity as Copa. Besides quoting population figures to suggest a country isnt doing well doesn't make sense to me. It just doesn't work that way. Its like you expect them to win in every tournament they participate in which is virtually impossible.
Their most recent cup victory was in 2007 meanwhile Argentina haven't won anything relevant in 23 yrs. This generation is better than Brazil and they should have been winning something.
Their most recent cup victory was in 2007 meanwhile Argentina haven't won anything relevant in 23 yrs. This generation is better than Brazil and they should have been winning something.
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S wrote:Olympics is a glorified U-23 tournament. It doesn't have the same level of competitivity as Copa. Besides quoting population figures to suggest a country isnt doing well doesn't make sense to me. It just doesn't work that way. Its like you expect them to win in every tournament they participate in which is virtually impossible.
Their most recent cup victory was in 2007 meanwhile Argentina haven't won anything relevant in 23 yrs. This generation is better than Brazil and they should have been winning something.
This generation is better than Brazil is a true statement, and has been proven by Argentina making the finals the past two years while Brazil have got their collective asses kicked by worse sides. The fact of the matter is the Brazil that won 9 years ago is nowhere near the same team that plays today.
The Argentina that won in the olympics is, for the most part, the guys who start for them now. The only remaining factor is neither one of them are winning copas or cups. Unless you count the confederation cup as serious.
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this proves that god exist
you can have almost perfect plan yet the one that have final say is God
you can have almost perfect plan yet the one that have final say is God
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Higuain can get fkkked cant believe bottled another golden chance
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MaraVilla wrote:
is this real? in wikipedia?
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Sanchez steals Golden Ball without single MoM performance and not even finishing the final.
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