Re: The Official Dwayne Wade <<<<<< you thread

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 24, 2016 3:53 pm

Like *bleep* it did, he even went back for seconds to make sure Laughing

He punched him in the gut, Draymond upward swinged on follow through as part of selling the foul.

It's not even close to the same thing, you are letting your hate for the man cloud your judgement.

I think he should have been at least a Flagrant 1 because it's wreckless but I don't believe it was intentional and I don't see how anyone can say with absolutely certainty that it's either way really.

by Freeza Tue May 24, 2016 4:01 pm

Went back for seconds Laughing

No he freaking didn't. This is like listening to the Inside The NBA crew. Yeah my hate is clouding my judgement.

Let's ignore the fact that he should've been ejected and was let off. It looks just the same as other incidents where this has happened.

Draymond's kick was not like his normal kick. It was different and with a much harder wind up.

I don't really know how anyone can defend Draymond. Especially after seeing how he didn't even apologize or say he had to change anything. Instead he was passive aggressive and defensive.

Kicking in the balls is allowed now. Let's get some goons in to kick Curry in the balls and see them get a lifetime ban.

by CBarca Tue May 24, 2016 10:25 pm

Wait, people think that was unintentional? Stop taking your hipsterness to another level Mole, you're the only one who isnt a GSW fanboy that thinks it's unintentional.

The reason he hasn't been banned is because the NBA would prefer to see GSW in the final and they don't want to ruin a good series. Don't see it any other way tbh

Next thing you know Mole is telling us that the Lamela step on Fabregas was unintentional because Lamela wasn't looking at Fab and never broke stride. Nah, it was intentional, Lamela just did a good job of selling it.

by Luca Tue May 24, 2016 10:45 pm

It was definitely intentional, but was it worth a game suspension? This is where it gets cloudy. Foul? Definitely, maybe a tech or a flagrant 1.... but worth a game suspension? That almost seems harsh, and unfortunately- the biggest reason in my mind- removing Green from what would be the most pivotal game of the series should not happen. It basically gifts Oklahoma the advantage, it costs way more than his kick was worth.

I'm ok with the non-suspension call. Definitely intentional, should have been a foul

by Freeza Tue May 24, 2016 10:47 pm

Luca wrote:It was definitely intentional, but was it worth a game suspension? This is where it gets cloudy. Foul? Definitely, maybe a tech or a flagrant 1.... but worth a game suspension? That almost seems harsh, and unfortunately- the biggest reason in my mind- removing Green from what would be the most pivotal game of the series should not happen. It basically gifts Oklahoma the advantage, it costs way more than his kick was worth.

I'm ok with the non-suspension call. Definitely intentional, should have been a foul

If they could prove it was more than intentional it's def a suspension. Kicking a guy in the balls is pretty dangerous.

Also it was called a flagrant 2 after the game. Which is why I have an extra problem with it.

by El Gunner Wed May 25, 2016 12:04 am

Lock in! #DubNation

by dmize Wed May 25, 2016 1:22 am

Intent doesn't matter though. It's impossible to determine 100%, so the NBA(supposedly ) does not consider it when making suspensions:

PSA: Draymond Green's intent is irrelevant, folks. The league office has not, cannot and will not consider intent. It is unknowable.
https://twitter.com/tomhaberstroh/status/734740027440304128

by Freeza Wed May 25, 2016 1:25 am

dmize wrote:Intent doesn't matter though. It's impossible to determine 100%, so the NBA(supposedly ) does not consider it when making suspensions:
PSA: Draymond Green's intent is irrelevant, folks. The league office has not, cannot and will not consider intent. It is unknowable.
https://twitter.com/tomhaberstroh/status/734740027440304128

Well intent can be determined. BUt probably only in really obvious cases like Malice in the palace etc.

by dmize Wed May 25, 2016 1:30 am

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but just now I read a Silver quote saying you have to look at intent... hmm

Basically they arbitrarily decide the rules based on what suits the NBA. Sounds about right.

by Freeza Wed May 25, 2016 1:34 am

It's typical these kinds of organisations to leave everything as vague as possibly so they can rule to their own benefit. NFL is the worst at this.

by McAgger Wed May 25, 2016 1:56 am

Invocation wtf Laughing

OKC gtfo.

by Freeza Wed May 25, 2016 2:12 am

When Westbrook sets up his teammates like he's done all of these playoffs this OKC team is so amazing.

by Freeza Wed May 25, 2016 2:17 am

This team is so athletic Laughing

by Freeza Wed May 25, 2016 2:42 am

Draymond just tripped Kanter on purpose. People still think he doesn't do these things on purpose? Laughing

Disgusting player

by LeSwagg James Wed May 25, 2016 3:05 am

The Thunder are peaking at the best time.. They will be tough to beat in the Finals Laughing

by Guest Wed May 25, 2016 3:08 am

GSW look so average.

And this is the best team in NBA history?

The Official Dwayne Wade <<<<<< you thread - Page 14 Giphy

by Freeza Wed May 25, 2016 3:12 am

Durant is so underrated on defense. It's great when your team has a 7footer that can play the 3 and 4 and protect the rim with those freakishly long arms.

by LeSwagg James Wed May 25, 2016 3:13 am

But but its the Curry era god damnit! How is this happening?!

by CBarca Wed May 25, 2016 3:13 am

Kevin Durant is the best player in the league.

by Freeza Wed May 25, 2016 3:15 am

LeSwagg James wrote:But but its the Curry era god damnit! How is this happening?!

Curry is an awful defensive player who is held up on that end by Klay. It really killed them when he went out. Offensively there is nothing to say really.

by Guest Wed May 25, 2016 3:20 am

CBarca wrote:Kevin Durant is the best player in the league.

Looks like it.

Freeza wrote:
LeSwagg James wrote:But but its the Curry era god damnit! How is this happening?!

Curry is an awful defensive player who is held up on that end by Klay. It really killed them when he went out. Offensively there is nothing to say really.

He offers nothing when the shot isn't dropping.

by Firenze Wed May 25, 2016 3:36 am

CBarca wrote:Kevin Durant is the best player in the league.

by Freeza Wed May 25, 2016 3:54 am

Don't know about Durant being the best player in the league yet alone his own team. LeBron is still the best imo. Westbrook is the same level as Durant and better this game so far, Durant has missed so much.

by CBarca Wed May 25, 2016 4:01 am

Westbrook has been better this game but Durant is comfortably the better player, and his defense has been absolutely crucial against Golden State this series so far. KD has been getting it done on both ends and has played fantastic defense in addition to his usual ridiculously good scoring (which hasn't been quite as good this game, yes).

Westbrook is awesome, but to me it's easily KD.

by Freeza Wed May 25, 2016 4:05 am

CBarca wrote:Westbrook has been better this game but Durant is comfortably the better player, and his defense has been absolutely crucial against Golden State this series so far. KD has been getting it done on both ends and has played fantastic defense in addition to his usual ridiculously good scoring (which hasn't been quite as good this game, yes).

Westbrook is awesome, but to me it's easily KD.

I'd also argue that Westbrook has been more crucial when he sets up his teammates. Pretty sure he's statistically the best passer in regards to shot percentage in the playoffs so far. I can see why people would say Durant is better. But easily? I don't know. Westbrook's hustle is so important. Just look at that one handed rebound he just pulled down.

One thing is for sure. I'd kill to have either. OKC has both Sad

by Guest Wed May 25, 2016 4:15 am

Westbrook triple double.

Absolutely insane.

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