Re: Roberto Martinez Sack Watch

by Helmer Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:26 am

and why anyone cares about Martinez or Everton hmm

by ExtremistEnigma Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:44 pm

free_cat wrote:Obviously Martinez is far from doing a crap job. Everton sits comfortably midtable and he qualified them once for Europa League. Truth is Everton team is average in comparison to how stacked are mid table teams in the premier league.

They have a better squad than most of the other PL teams except for Man City, Utd, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, us (debatable).. not to mention the fact that they are filled with experienced individuals so clearly the fault lies with the manager in not being to able to make the most out of team.

I really don't care, I hope they never sack him. Would be fun seeing them play in the Championship tbf

by free_cat Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:03 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:
free_cat wrote:Obviously Martinez is far from doing a crap job. Everton sits comfortably midtable and he qualified them once for Europa League. Truth is Everton team is average in comparison to how stacked are mid table teams in the premier league.

They have a better squad than most of the other PL teams except for Man City, Utd, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, us (debatable).. not to mention the fact that they are filled with experienced individuals so clearly the fault lies with the manager in not being to able to make the most out of team.

I really don't care, I hope they never sack him. Would be fun seeing them play in the Championship tbf

Well, that list has 6 teams. So Everton should finish 7th. There's really no reason to sack a coach for being 6 points from his target position with 9 games remaining and considering that it's really the same to finish 7th or 17th, as long as you are never close to being relegated.

Furthermore, I disagree that there are only 6 better squads than Everton. Leicester is obviously better with two stars like Mahrez and Kante; Stoke is also much better with frigging Imbula, Arnautovic, Shaqiri and the likes.... even Southampton with their great defence with players like Wanyama, Van Dijk, Forster...

Midtable premier league teams are really stacked, you should see that.

by M99 Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:34 pm

free_cat wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:
free_cat wrote:Obviously Martinez is far from doing a crap job. Everton sits comfortably midtable and he qualified them once for Europa League. Truth is Everton team is average in comparison to how stacked are mid table teams in the premier league.

They have a better squad than most of the other PL teams except for Man City, Utd, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, us (debatable).. not to mention the fact that they are filled with experienced individuals so clearly the fault lies with the manager in not being to able to make the most out of team.

I really don't care, I hope they never sack him. Would be fun seeing them play in the Championship tbf

Well, that list has 6 teams. So Everton should finish 7th. There's really no reason to sack a coach for being 6 points from his target position with 9 games remaining and considering that it's really the same to finish 7th or 17th, as long as you are never close to being relegated.

No it isn't. It isn't.

by futbol Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:37 pm

Catalan manager in being found out as a fraud shocker.

by Doc Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:10 pm

Pep is still doing great things.

by futbol Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:11 pm

Doc wrote:Pep is still doing great things.

Agreed, like destroying Bayern. (:

by free_cat Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:49 am

M99 wrote:
free_cat wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:

They have a better squad than most of the other PL teams except for Man City, Utd, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, us (debatable).. not to mention the fact that they are filled with experienced individuals so clearly the fault lies with the manager in not being to able to make the most out of team.

I really don't care, I hope they never sack him. Would be fun seeing them play in the Championship tbf

Well, that list has 6 teams. So Everton should finish 7th. There's really no reason to sack a coach for being 6 points from his target position with 9 games remaining and considering that it's really the same to finish 7th or 17th, as long as you are never close to being relegated.

No it isn't. It isn't.

If you are never close to being relegated it is, really. You get the same reward: not going to Europe, not getting relegated. However, remove that sentence if you don't like it and the point still stands and no one has argued against it: you can't simply fire a manager for being 6 points away from the best position expected for his team with 9 games remaining.

by Helmer Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:25 am

I think that much is obvious that they should wait till the end of the season. Unless the point is to sack him now and appoint him as Newcastle manager in case they sack Mc hmm

by Hapless_Hans Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:45 am

futbol wrote:
Doc wrote:Pep is still doing great things.

Agreed, like destroying Bayern. (:

We are now the best Bayern ever in my memory, I can confidently state.

by free_cat Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:26 am

That "scrub" Martinez taking Everton to the FA Cup semifinal.

by Hapless_Hans Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:59 pm

ok so I've been just googling the Everton club badge for reasons

Their motto is "Nothing but the best is enough"

I don't think Martinez' performance is living up to this tbh

by Art Morte Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:40 pm

Should be "nothing but the best bargain is enough", imo.

But yeah, it's starting to look like Martinez will be a little bit lucky if he's still in charge of Everton at the start of next season. Although they're in the FA cup semis, there is that.

by Helmer Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:04 pm

I hate it when this thread gets bumped !

by free_cat Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:50 am

But seriously, are you guys saying Everton are better than any of the teams they've got above them except West Brom?

by BarcaLearning Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:23 pm

Underrated manager, I kind of like him, hope they win the FA cup and climb the table Smile

by Art Morte Thu May 12, 2016 3:36 pm

It's finally happened. A pity, would have been nice if he had to face the fans in a home game one more time.

by Glory Thu May 12, 2016 4:06 pm

Spoiler:

by Turok_TTZ Thu May 12, 2016 9:33 pm

never liked him. good riddance.

by ExtremistEnigma Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:14 pm

Just came to know that he was appointed Belgium's manager.

How did this fraud make his way up to managing the Belgium NT? Belgium are seemingly wasting their prime talent by appointing worthless managers.

by Mr Nick09 Tue May 28, 2019 1:31 pm

According to ChiringitoTV he will replace Valverde as barca coach and he will be assisted by Henry.

Laughing

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 28, 2019 1:35 pm

On one hand.

Martinez rofl

On the other hand.

Allowing Martinez to win the league rofl

by Firenze Tue May 28, 2019 1:36 pm

Always knew he was destined for big things. What a come up. :bow:

time to bring Lukaku home tbh. 100m.

by Mr Nick09 Tue May 28, 2019 1:36 pm

They will likely win the league but certainly not because Martinez is coaching lol, this has long been established

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 28, 2019 1:38 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:They will likely win the league but certainly not because Martinez is coaching lol, this has long been established

How will you live it down when you lose a league to Roberto Martinez no matter the reasons?

Quite sad tbh.

by futbol Tue May 28, 2019 1:59 pm

It's a fantasy that we will win the league. He will be the first Barca manager in ages that will be sacked midseason. Valverde is a very good La Liga manager, has also proven it with Bilbao, won them the first title in more than 30 years (against MSN Barca), kept them at the top and they've regressed since he left them. Losing CL away games is Barca DNA rather than Valverde's fault. Usually it's the other way around, we first lose away then turn it around home. Unlucky that the return legs against Roma and Liverpool were away.

Martinez on the other hand reached what in his career? Record negative goal difference with Wigan + got them relegated + shocking results like 1-9 and 0-8, sacked at Everton after not even 3 seasons (only 6 points above relegation at some point, lost 2-5 to Dynamo Kiev in Europe) where Moyes was balling for more than 10 years. Worse than Tata Martino.

Plastic fanbase will deserve every bit of it though. Laughing

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