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Higuain is currently carrying Napoli more than Maradona did in their first Scudetto.

EDIT

Atm against League 2-4 opponents (excl. penalties taken not won):

Maradona 86-87

2. Juventus W 1-3 (0+0), W 2-1 (0+1)
3. Inter D 0-0 (0+0), L 1-0 (0+0)
4. Verona D 0-0 (0+0), L 3-0 (0+0)

Total W-D-L, (G+A)/Team Goals
2-2-2 33% win, (0+1)/5 = 20%

Higuain 15-16

2. Juventus W 2-1 (1+1)
3. Fiorentina W 2-1 (1+0)
4. Inter W 2-1 (2+0)

Total W-D-L, (G+A)/Team Goals
3-0-0 100% win, (4+1)/6 = 83%

EDIT: Updated, Higuain with 3 consecutive first team goals. And still standing important with 14 rounds left.



EDIT:

Harmonica wrote:

Higuain is currently carrying Napoli more than Maradona did in their first Scudetto.

because maradona is more of a threat to messi than higuain

Aren't assists only accurately recorded since the 90s?

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Aren't assists only accurately recorded since the 90s?

I've watched every goal. Also "wide" assists, as they portray better involvement on goal scoring.

Harmonica wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Aren't assists only accurately recorded since the 90s?

I've watched every goal.

get a life

Valkyrja wrote:
get a life

Get a Higuain.

Wide assists should probably be ignored because otherwise there's about a million other outside factors you could include. Still, Higuain is a beast.

Curtinho wrote:Wide assists should probably be ignored because otherwise there's about a million other outside factors you could include. Still, Higuain is a beast.

They shouldn't be ignored, because it's still better than goals only, goals + "narrow" assists only. Sure you could extend involvement even further, but I don't have data on it.

We might need league difficulty adjusted stats tbh. In Maradona's time Serie A was the best league in the word, not the current Serie Z. Playing against Maldini, Baresi, Costacurta and Tassotti is probably different than playing against the likes of Chiellini and Barzagli.

Valkyrja wrote:We might need league difficulty adjusted stats tbh. In Maradona's time Serie A was the best league in the word, not the current Serie Z. Playing against Maldini, Baresi, Costacurta and Tassotti is probably different than playing against the likes of Chiellini and Barzagli.

Low level thinking.

It's relative comparison, to the team performance, so opponents doesn't really matter.

But here's Maradona against Mussi, Tassotti, Baresi, Costacurta, Maldini back line.



Higuain has never had that much space and time.

Harmonica wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:We might need league difficulty adjusted stats tbh. In Maradona's time Serie A was the best league in the word, not the current Serie Z. Playing against Maldini, Baresi, Costacurta and Tassotti is probably different than playing against the likes of Chiellini and Barzagli.

Low level thinking.

It's relative comparison, to the team performance, so opponents doesn't really matter.

Now I get it

Harmonica wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Aren't assists only accurately recorded since the 90s?

I've watched every goal. Also "wide" assists, as they portray better involvement on goal scoring.

I believe you

footy nowadays all you need is a good run of form to>maradona .

chad4401 wrote:footy nowadays all you need is a good run of form to>maradona .

Well Maradona's first Scudetto with Napoli is kind of a myth, so that's not that hard, relatively.

its obvious your hyping higs>maradona, just because you want messi to standout as the best ever, i don't get why you need all these threads, to say messi is the best and everybody else sucks.

we get it bruh.

There's a big difference in how Maradona carries his teams compared to Higuain.

Maradona is a much safer player to pass. He's more technical and harder to steal the ball from. It's similair to how Messi somewhat carries Barcelona in possession, he is their safest player to pass. He can keep the ball on his feet anywhere on the pitch.

Higuain isn't even half the player. That's just the technical part of Maradona's game. Maradona does everything better than Higauin. Troll thread should be moved to the stats thread. If your point is that Messi is better than Maradona then you're right. He is. You don't need to prove it anywhere but on the pitch tho.

guest7 wrote:There's a big difference in how Maradona carries his teams compared to Higuain.

Maradona is a much safer player to pass. He's more technical and harder to steal the ball from. It's similair to how Messi somewhat carries Barcelona in possession, he is their safest player to pass. He can keep the ball on his feet anywhere on the pitch.

Higuain isn't even half the player. That's just the technical part of Maradona's game. Maradona does everything better than Higauin. Troll thread should be moved to the stats thread

That's just trivial mumbo jumbo, nothing based on what actually happened, relatively.

Harmonica wrote:

guest7 wrote:There's a big difference in how Maradona carries his teams compared to Higuain.

Maradona is a much safer player to pass. He's more technical and harder to steal the ball from. It's similair to how Messi somewhat carries Barcelona in possession, he is their safest player to pass. He can keep the ball on his feet anywhere on the pitch.

Higuain isn't even half the player. That's just the technical part of Maradona's game. Maradona does everything better than Higauin. Troll thread should be moved to the stats thread

That's just trivial mumbo jumbo, nothing based on what actually happened, relatively.

Would you rather have Maradona on your team or Higuain?

guest7 wrote:

Harmonica wrote:

guest7 wrote:There's a big difference in how Maradona carries his teams compared to Higuain.

Maradona is a much safer player to pass. He's more technical and harder to steal the ball from. It's similair to how Messi somewhat carries Barcelona in possession, he is their safest player to pass. He can keep the ball on his feet anywhere on the pitch.

Higuain isn't even half the player. That's just the technical part of Maradona's game. Maradona does everything better than Higauin. Troll thread should be moved to the stats thread

That's just trivial mumbo jumbo, nothing based on what actually happened, relatively.

Would you rather have Maradona on your team or Higuain?

Maradona of course, why are you even asking? Do you know what thread you're in?

Harmonica wrote:

guest7 wrote:There's a big difference in how Maradona carries his teams compared to Higuain.

Maradona is a much safer player to pass. He's more technical and harder to steal the ball from. It's similair to how Messi somewhat carries Barcelona in possession, he is their safest player to pass. He can keep the ball on his feet anywhere on the pitch.

Higuain isn't even half the player. That's just the technical part of Maradona's game. Maradona does everything better than Higauin. Troll thread should be moved to the stats thread

That's just common sense, nothing based on what I wish happened, relatively.

napoli won a scudetto when serie a was at its apex....platini matthaus brehme voeller klinsmann van basten rijkaard zico gullit and many more greats played in the league in the 80s at milan juve roma inter sampdoria etc... the league is almost the opposite of what it was back then, its at its worst phase technically, financially, and tactically. its unappealing to top athletes....that reason alone is enough to thwart this comparison. higuain's still an amazing player btw. with all due respect, either stick to the messi appreciation/ world cup "most assists to the guy that assisted the assist of the goal" thread, or look for more subtle/smarter ways to address your messi fetish...the agenda behind this, is painfully obvious. change your style

"Higuain is currently carrying Napoli more than Maradona did in their first Scudetto."

How?

guest7 wrote:"Higuain is currently carrying Napoli more than Maradona did in their first Scudetto."

How?

Read the op, relatively it's all there.

titosantill wrote:napoli won a scudetto when serie a was at its apex....platini matthaus brehme voeller klinsmann van basten rijkaard zico gullit and many more greats played in the league in the 80s at milan juve roma inter sampdoria etc... the league is almost the opposite of what it was back then, its at its worst phase technically, financially, and tactically. its unappealing to top athletes....that reason alone is enough to thwart this comparison. higuain's still an amazing player btw. with all due respect, either stick to the messi appreciation/ world cup "most assists to the guy that assisted the assist of the goal" thread, or look for more subtle/smarter ways to address your messi fetish...the agenda behind this, is painfully obvious. change your style

1. Napoli was the biggest spending team in Europe at the time.
2. Relative spending and league position was exactly the same as ManC of today.
3. Maradona wasn't then even ranked the best Napoli player 86-87 in Serie A.

changes nothing. even if they spent a gazillion pounds, there wasn't a gap between the teams financially and the talent was there at the top sides....i'd take someone battling the likes of matthaus costacurta than any of the scrub dms/ defenders that grace that league today...difference between "can't spend" and "won't spend"...and btw that city comparison is rubbish. don't bother posting your stats or cuts from magazines, i've heard that tune before on a bunch of your "player x isn't as great, so let's by default crown messi" threads....what's next? a "pele played against mechanics" thread? save it, stick to your giffs, and the assists to the guy who assisted the assist thread; that's actually very good for comic relief and humor on this forum