RealGunner wrote:It's not fully FIFA who made Balon d'Or a spectacle. People and specially social media have turned it into Oscars of football really.

Issue is fanboism, I have to say some football fans are worse then twilight fangirls.

Embarrassing really.

So if those,

Scoring 40+ goals..

Winning the treble..

Being the CL top scorer..

Being the CDR top scorer..

Scoring in 8 consecutive games (a barca record)

Scoring 21 goals in 18 big games..

Being the La liga third top scorer..


All while being a side kick (scored 39) last season and being the outright best in the world this season (with messi injured) doesn't make you the undisputed 2nd best player in the world, then my Gahd, I wonder what will..

Tbh in last 6 matches sergio roberto looked like zidane. Lets wait for more serious games to call neymar the best. He can do it but its too early to call him the best after just 6 games

As for last seaosn.he was only scorer. And was criticized for wasting chances.he got many easy goals, i mean suarez scored much harder goals. He was not as good as this season. This season he looks much faster and better dribbler.last season it was debetable who is better suarez or neymar.but this season its clear neymar is better. Especially last 6 games made him look like second best player.before those 6 games CR7 was second best and Suarez third in general view

Hasn't roberto looked worse against worse teams? Lol

So you judge player by harder goals? Lol

So suarez didn't miss more easy chances? even when messi had to tell him to go to the middle?

So messi scores just against real madrid, man city and bayern all season and never scores against the elbar and co most of the time?

So Neymar wasn't the best on the pitch against sevilla?

So Neymar didn't have a higher rating than suarez last season?

So u prefare to own it to scrubs rather than agree that roberto has improved?

Such flawed logic tbh..

U said in 7 games, but isn't that exactly my point? Weren't those 7 games, the games that he was allowed to express himself fully in the absence of messi? Meaning that the Neymar without messi is the real Neymar with his full potential on display as against the Neymar who is all about banging in goals Or u think he would have played like this if messi played? Well, the answer is a fat NO!!!

So what I'm saying is that this Neymar displaying his full potential as an orchestrator with freedom is superior to any player in the world bar messi.

rwo power wrote:But this does actually underline what I'm trying to say all the time - it is only a matter of tactics that CR7 can score that much, while in German teams the focus is more onto distributing the attacking power, what leads to a bigger number of scorers, but less goals for single players.

How did you come to that conclusion from my post? Surely you would agree that it is unfair to include Ronaldo's goal tally when he was very young and played in a 4-4-2 in his PL ratio calculations.

If you want to compare Bundesliga strikers to Ronaldo in the PL, only consider the season(s) in which Ronaldo played as a striker. That's what I wanted to say with that post. When played in a forward role, Ronaldo had a 0.86 ratio in the PL, which indicates that his goal ratio is not good exclusively in La Liga.

As futbol already mentioned, the reason goals are more spread out in Bundesliga because you don't have those elite players. If Ronaldo or Messi played for Bayern, I'm pretty confident that they would replicate their La Liga numbers.

El Messico wrote:As futbol already mentioned, the reason goals are more spread out in Bundesliga because you don't have those elite players. If Ronaldo or Messi played for Bayern, I'm pretty confident that they would replicate their La Liga numbers.

And that's what I doubt as in the BL teams it is about teamwork and *all* players defending etc. If one player would show CR7's antics, he would likely have a pretty hard life. I mean, didn't you notice that even the chronically selfish players Ribéry and Robben were made to track back etc? Do you really think this would sit well with CR7?