Lucifer wrote:I have legit said it atleast in 5 post that the most perfect iniesta replacement would be Mario Gotze. So it's quite funny u should ask me that question. Either that or I smell foul play , u just came across my such posts and now are trolling me

sorry I didn't know or remember those posts. But it's woth a thought no?

À bout de souffle wrote:
Why quote MD sources for transfer news when they are as unreliable as they come? Must be lonely in the Buyern section.

Good observational skills. It is indeed lonely in the Bayern section. That's with an 'a', by the way, not an 'u'.

For some reason I thought you might be German so you can imagine my surprise at your not being able to spell the name of Germany's greatest football club right.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Lucifer wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:


So your pick, right now, would be Eriksen?

No I would love to have Pogba or Verratti or gundo I also would love to have blowjob from Emma watson, chances of both happening are near about same. Why I pick Eriksen? The guy is from Ajax so is clearly well educated in style we play, has all the attributes you need to have to play in Barca midfield like passing, off the ball movement etc. Most of all isn't diva so wont have problem rotating with iniesta and gradually replacing him.

It's not so improbable for you to sign Pogba. Lot of times it was insinuated it has practically already happened
Eriksen is a good player and not a bad shout.

Have you ever thought about Götze as Iniesta replacement?
Serious question btw, not a joke.

Come on man. Surely you are joking. Technique wise, skill wise, temperament wise, defensive ability etc etc, Iniesta kills Gotze. NTM, Gotze has failed with the spotlight at Bayern. Spotlight is just as bright with us. Kid just doesnt have what it takes to step up for a big team.
We would welcome Thiago back with open arms though. Throw in Alaba and it is a deal.You can have the trifecta of Vermaelen, Mathieu and Douglas in return.

I'm not joking

If there's a role that I think Götze could be good in, it might be the one of linking midfield and attack

Obviously he's not as good as Iniesta, but then he's about three times better than Coutinho, in everything but dribbling and bimonthly golazos, who you've been championing for the role.

futbol wrote:Sign Verratti? Do you live on the moon? Do you realize where he is playing and that he just signed a new contract?

I do realise that, he plays for an overrated team in the BPL. Barcelona on the other hand are a world class team with history and the best players in the world. Don't tell me Verratti is untouchable. You'd bet that he would want to play for Barcelona rather than turd French team, regardless of the salaries he might be getting over there.

Clubs like Barcelona and Madrid can lure ANYONE.

futbol wrote:Sign Thiago? People still (over)rate that dud? 3 years ago he didn't manage to earn a place ahead of Fabregas. Okay, people blamed it on Tito/Roura "mishandling" him. What's his excuse, 3 years later, to be sitting on the bench behind 35 year old Alonso under his favourite coach?

Obviously you have some sort of hatred towards him and Guardiola (read: butthurt). Had it not been for his injuries in the past couple of seasons he would have already been the true successor to Xavi in the national team. And he may not be as all-round as Pogba but it suits Barcelona's style of play more than the Frenchman. He's grown up in La Masia after all.

I like Thiago, but he has a few negatives I don't like.

1) He turned his back on us in a crucial time of the club. I understand he wanted to play asap, but he clearly doesn't care about the club and openly said it, that he only cared about himself. Good for him, it's his career I get it, but a season later at most and he would of got a ton of more time and the season after that Xavi was pretty much on the way out and Cesc was already gone, he would of been an instant starter for us and he didn't even try to get a loan or anything. So I don't see why now we would try and bring him back, I don't think he deserves our attention when he didn't give it to us.

2. He is made of the same fine glass that Robben is made of. I don't think we could rely on him. Over a long season, and the Bundis has that ridiculous winter break/only play 1 leg cup games and even have like 2 teams less in the league so play less games and even then is injured ALLOT. And he gets injuries to his legs, that's not some random knock, that's stuff that usually not only takes him out for long spurts of time, but also probably takes a bit away from him that requires him to work to recover.

3. He played pretty terrible vs Atletico. Makes me worry he won't really perform when we need him against busy mid fields (we also schooled him last season). So I don't know how much it is that he looks like a god in Peps system, in a vastly superior to the rest of the Bundis, or if it's HIM...know what I mean? Because when he was with us, he obviously looked like he had a ton of talent but he never "stood out" clearly. We just knew we could mold him with what he had to work with, but then he left and instantly looked like a god with Pep.

But yea, all in all, I believe he is legit, has the talent (so ignore my 3rd point), but I can't over look the first 2 points I made. I wouldn't take him for my first point alone.

danyjr wrote:

futbol wrote:Sign Verratti? Do you live on the moon? Do you realize where he is playing and that he just signed a new contract?

I do realise that, he plays for an overrated team in the BPL. Barcelona on the other hand are a world class team with history and the best players in the world. Don't tell me Verratti is untouchable. You'd bet that he would want to play for Barcelona rather than turd French team, regardless of the salaries he might be getting over there.

Clubs like Barcelona and Madrid can lure ANYONE.

danyjr wrote:

futbol wrote:Sign Thiago? People still (over)rate that dud? 3 years ago he didn't manage to earn a place ahead of Fabregas. Okay, people blamed it on Tito/Roura "mishandling" him. What's his excuse, 3 years later, to be sitting on the bench behind 35 year old Alonso under his favourite coach?

Obviously you have some sort of hatred towards him and Guardiola (read: butthurt). Had it not been for his injuries in the past couple of seasons he would have already been the true successor to Xavi in the national team. And he may not be as all-round as Pogba but it suits Barcelona's style of play more than the Frenchman. He's grown up in La Masia after all.

If my dad had signed me up for my local football club when I was 6, I would have become a professional footballer and earned millions. But that's the thing with parallel universes. They only exist in our imaginations.

Winter is Coming wrote:I've always perfer ed Verratti over anyone else, but that's a pipe dream.

I was wondering if we had a choice to give them one of MSN in a potential deal for Verratti would you guys be up for that? If yes who would you give?

All tho I think if it was offered I think PSG may listen to it.

Verratti + Marquinhos for Neymar in a heartbeat.

@windkick

1. It was clear that Vilanova preferred Fàbregas to him, and also the entire sporting staff (Zubizarreta and Vilanova) made incredibly stupid mistakes in how they handled his transfer clause. You should understand that he left solely to get more playing time, not for more money or trophies. I agree that his heart doesn't beat for the club, but honestly, who plays for the colours in modern football these days?

2. The injury worries are understandable. He's been out for a long time but there is nothing concrete to claim he is an injury-prone player; he could have just been unlucky with the past injuries. Yes, it is a risky transfer in that regard, and the cost of the transfer should reflect on the risk.

3. Most teams have trouble breaking down Atlético, I don't think you can single him out specifically. Though I agree that he has that La Masia DNA and that in turn makes him ineffective against highly defensive teams.

Hapless_Hans wrote:
For some reason I thought you might be German so you can imagine my surprise at your not being able to spell the name of Germany's greatest football club right.

I'm not, but I'm feisty and exotic. Your loneliness can be treated if only you abandoned Evil.

futbol wrote:

Winter is Coming wrote:I've always perfer ed Verratti over anyone else, but that's a pipe dream.

I was wondering if we had a choice to give them one of MSN in a potential deal for Verratti would you guys be up for that? If yes who would you give?

All tho I think if it was offered I think PSG may listen to it.

Verratti + Marquinhos for Neymar in a heartbeat.

Same.


@danyjr,

You are not being pragmatic. Nasser has already reiterated that PSG's building a young core for the future, and talents like Marcos and Verratti are non-transferable. If Barca's lure was indeed decisive as you say, we'd have got 'em both by now. As long as they keep winning trophies and sit on a bumper contract, they will do what PSG says. The only way I see either leaving is running their contract down, which I honestly don't see happening.

As for Thiago, I just don't see him fullfulling his potential, primarily due to his injury proneness, likewise his brother.

Big no to Thiago. He moved on, and I don't want to see him back, no way. I'd wait to see how Verratti will come back from his recent injury, but I'd swap a fit Verratti for Neymar, no need for Marquinhos.

I think there's as much chance of me having sex with Sofia Vergara infront of her husband as there is PSG allowing us to take Veratti. Veratti will leave PSG when PSG is ready to move on from him.

Wouldn't mind Thiago or Verratti but neither of them are coming unless they fail at their own club first. Let's see how Ancelotti uses Thiago first, they might not have a use for him come the winter transfer season.

Eriksen is an acceptable alternative to me.

I didn't read back so sorry if it's already been talked about but is it official that we are buying Denis out?

No not official, but every source indicates that it's definitely happening. He would only cost us 3M if we buy him back this summer.

There's also rumors that we might be getting him back to then turn around and try to profit off of him and sell him to another club before the summer window ends.

Hapless_Hans wrote:I'm not joking

If there's a role that I think Götze could be good in, it might be the one of linking midfield and attack

Obviously he's not as good as Iniesta, but then he's about three times better than Coutinho, in everything but dribbling and bimonthly golazos, who you've been championing for the role.

Well then, why hasnt Gotze been tried in that role for Bayern.
I just dont think he is the elite talent he is made out to be. Not an elite dribbler, not great in tight spaces,not an elite passer, not a great scorer and not a great conductor of play.
I disagree on Gotze being better than Coutinho. I think the opposite infact. Kid is a brilliant dribbler, wonderfully inventive, great passer, great technique and ability in tight spaces. Has a lot of the qualities Iniesta has( not to the legendary GOAT level Iniesta has ofcourse).
Ofcourse he may fail with us. But he is exactly the kind of player we should be looking for imo.

Verratti for Neymar. Doesnt sound to me like a very smart deal. If we have to exchange one of MSN for the Italian, I would exchange Messi every single time.
Neymar is the future and unlike the Argentine, isnt a liability.

alexjanosik wrote:Verratti for Neymar. Doesnt sound to me like a very smart deal. If we have to exchange one of MSN for the Italian, I would exchange Messi every single time.
Neymar is the future and unlike the Argentine, isnt a liability.

How's Messi a liability? Are you alluding to his lack of workrate? Please elaborate.

alexjanosik wrote:Verratti for Neymar. Doesnt sound to me like a very smart deal. If we have to exchange one of MSN for the Italian, I would exchange Messi every single time.
Neymar is the future and unlike the Argentine, isnt a liability.

Which future? Neymar is easier to replace. He developed a cescness this season too, and his taste for parties is worrying. I really doubt neymar will stay at Barça for more than 5 seasons. He'll soon move on to the PL.

Am sorry Alex but am not with you in this "Messi is liability" and "Neymar is our future" sounds actually rubbish to me.

"Cescness" nice term

We all know there are no 'Neymar for X' or 'Messi for Y' swaps that are going to happen, moot point bringing up the 'liability' debate again.

And I think you guys are overrating Veratti a bit. He's too rash for Barca. Not sure how much patience he has to play the slow possession game when needed. Top midfielder, maybe even elite - but I wouldn't go way out of our way to get him (which we would need to - PSG & all)

Coutinho is a good option. Don't think we're even looking at him though.

Yea, I don't want Neymar to leave any time soon but I would definitely get rid of him before I even consider getting rid of Messi.

Matter of fact, as much as Messi has done for us, I would keep him till his early 30s and make it as easy as possible for him to gracefully move to Newell's Old Boys, as that's what he always says is his dream destination after he leaves us. The clubs made so much profit of him since day 1, that allowing him to move for peanuts to his childhood club would be the right thing to do.

Neymar on the other hand, has shown us how brilliant and bad he can be. Last I read we are close to getting him to sign a contract extension that would see his release clause go up to an insane number. So neither is going nowhere, so no point discussing.

Lucifer wrote:Am sorry Alex but am not with you in this "Messi is liability" and "Neymar is our future" sounds actually rubbish to me.

Obviously Messi isn't a liability, but there's no doubt Neymar is the future.
So yes, if you want to sell one (why would you though), it should be Messi.

Just wrote 500 words emotional essay on Messi and his contribution to Barca that would have made even the people like Futbol cry like a teenage girl watching romcom but just before I could hit send button my tablet off ed itself and everything has been lost now. NVm now CBA to write it again. I would definitely post the conclusion though,
"If I were to sell anyone of MSN it would be Neymar 10 out of 10 times".

Verratti signs contract until 2021:

https://twitter.com/mohamedbouhafsi/status/731198597061050368

Meh. Verratti never happening. Pogba it is, then. In 2017.

actually looking forward to the rumour season, could be an interesting summer