Re: Should Madrid sell CR7 to Paris for 125m euros?

by futbol Sat May 23, 2015 11:29 am

Well, if it means getting Verratti it would be worth it IMO. A setup with Modric, Verratti, Kroos, Hames and Isco would be quite nice to watch although I wouldn't have a clue how to make it work. Probably need to get Pep for that.

Isco DMzema Reus
Hames
Kroos Modric
Verratti
Ramos Pepe Varane
DDG

by Donuts Sat May 23, 2015 11:33 am

----------------Navas
Danilo--Varane------Ramos----Marcelo
-------Kroos---Verrati--Modric
James---------Benzema--------Bale

with isco in bench not too bad. just get a sub for forwards and bingo.

by S Sat May 23, 2015 11:35 am

Madrid do not think like that.CR brings them a lot of $$$.They go with that line of thinking.Currently there's no one ready YET to take over from him, all aspects considered.

by neuro11 Sat May 23, 2015 11:45 am

Dont know whether they should but think he will not go to PSG. He is highly obsessed with Messi's success. Moreover, i doubt people will rate his goals for PSG in french league which is important for B'Dor competition.Ofcourse if he wins there a UCL that will be a big story. I beleive he will stay here few more years, as he said the competition vs. Messi makes him stronger which is true.

by ahmad25 Sat May 23, 2015 1:18 pm

R.Madrid have better defence and better midfield than current barcelona. They only suck at frontline. Yes i would replace all of them. They have no creativity or vision to pass. They rely only on counter attacks and it becomes one dimensional and predictable . Only Benzema tries to create something he is great and intelligent but he is slow. Fast+Creative. You need three of them to replace all front three.
Ribery Robben and Aguero would be my choice. Then no team can stop R.Madrid

by Mr Nick09 Sat May 23, 2015 1:37 pm

when is the last time u saw ribery playing a game? and robben? rather keep ronaldo than those injury prone messes

by VanDeezNuts Sat May 23, 2015 2:17 pm

RM does not function that way. Even if this deal really was on the table they would never take it. Perez understands how important financially it is to have such a globally renowned star. It goes far beyond ticket and shirt sales, so he would only take it if he knew he was able to get a player with just as much global recognition. This pretty much pertains to Neymar and Messi. Considering both of those are off the table it is not going to happen.

But sure in fantasy land if we were able to sell Ronaldo and get 2 of Rues/Hazard and Pogba/Verratti with cash in the bank, heck ya.

by Onyx Sat May 23, 2015 5:02 pm

We don't need anybody to replace Ronaldo though. The whole point of selling him would be to try something different tactically.

by The Franchise Sat May 23, 2015 5:52 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:It's not just Madrid, he went away from that formation since his PSG days. If i recall, it was a big topic in france when he arrived, everyone was talking about the xmas tree. But it failed miserably, i dont remember the exact evolution of his choice of formations then, but he ended up with the 442, and he kept it ever since...

Anyway, our squad needs better balance, some guys have to be sacrificed so that we can approach more games with more overall solidity. Will be interesting to see what Carlo does with those guys
The christmas tree cost PSG the title in the season he came to coach (came in January). The issue was the Pastore was flopping in the "kaka" role and, once Ibra came on, that was over.

I personally think Carlo became a pragmatic. He has a definite idea of how he wants to the ball to move up the pitch,,, but that idea can be morphed to fit different formations. He designs shapes that emphasize his best player(s). At Chelsea, it was a 433 because you had a trio of Malouda-Anelka-Drogba and a midfield of Lampard-Essien-Ballack. That was the best design for that squad. In his first year at PSG, he tried the christmas tree as i mentioned since Pastore was the best player that season when he joined... but then moved to a 442 because Ibra was best in a free role and he needed cover for his fullbacks who were very poor that season (Jallet, Van Der Wiel and Maxwell). The 442 gave him winger cover on both sides and also a lot of real estate for Ibra to operate in the middle. At Madrid, he designed the scheme around BBC and the fact that he had CMs and AMs but no B2Bs or DMs pushed him to a 433 naturally.

So i think he fits the players the best he can to his overall philosophy, which is not married to a singular shape interestingly enough. He really is brilliant. Too bad that his flaws are so pronounced where he can't stick somewhere due to league failures.

His rotations killed him. Just doesn't manage a squad well. He also doesn't stand up to get the players he needs. Too much of a "yes" man politically.

Intresting stuff, but I cant help but wonder why did he got with 433 with Chelsea. Anelka always was an awkward winger and only made it work because of his clever movement, but it always seemed a strange plan to me.

That Chelsea team was tailor made for his 4312. Anelka and Drobga next to each other and sit the less mobile Ballack in in the Pirlo-ish role and let Essien and Lampard do the leg work. All that was missing was a 10. Malouda was never that good where he HAD to start, fine player but not undroppable. Dont get why he didnt just put a 10 like Joe Cole or Deco in that line up and play the way he id at Milan.

Not that im saying it was wrong, they won the league and overall his team worked just fine. Im just curious.

Especially in the year they tried to retain the title, top scorer was Malouda who only got 13 goals.

by Hapless_Hans Sat May 23, 2015 5:55 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:RM does not function that way. Even if this deal really was on the table they would never take it. Perez understands how important financially it is to have such a globally renowned star. It goes far beyond ticket and shirt sales, so he would only take it if he knew he was able to get a player with just as much global recognition. This pretty much pertains to Neymar and Messi. Considering both of those are off the table it is not going to happen.

But sure in fantasy land if we were able to sell Ronaldo and get 2 of Rues/Hazard and Pogba/Verratti with cash in the bank, heck ya.

This.

Real Madrid is supposed to be the club with the biggest stars. Without Ronaldo, who have they left?

by B-Mac Sat May 23, 2015 6:08 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Jese would replace him with no problems.

as if uncle flo would allow a madrid youth to replace Ronaldo

you would buy Ashley Young, PL's new best player :coffee:

dat Young-Benzema-Bale front :bow:

by Hapless_Hans Sat May 23, 2015 6:26 pm

B-Mac wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Jese would replace him with no problems.

as if uncle flo would allow a madrid youth to replace Ronaldo

you would buy Ashley Young, PL's new best player

dat Young-Benzema-Bale front

Even better, Young-Chicharito-Bale front. Then get Moyes to take over from Carlo in order to engage in an elaborate time-space-continuum bending experiment.

by chad4401 Sat May 23, 2015 7:23 pm

good old nick using every opportunity to throw benzema under the bus, when its clear benz shows up the most, along with modric in the big games, and lets sell that guy for an injury prone forward seems legit

anyway selling cr won't be the end of the world, but the idea of not having one of the top 2 players in the world, just won't sit right with flo and im sure he knows bale isn't and won't ever be good enough

by sportsczy Sat May 23, 2015 9:40 pm

Malouda was the best player in the EPL, let alone Chelsea, for the first 3 months of Carlo's reign... and that cemented him although he dropped off drastically after that. But Carlo sticks with a plan until the end of the season once he conceives it UNLESS there's injury. Stubborn that way.

I agree that, if you dropped Malouda, then the 433 wasn't the best scheme. But he wasn't going to drop Malouda after that torrid start and the fact that they won the league.

I personally don't like Malouda so I'm not trying to prop him up at all.

In the second year.... well Carlo wasn't going to change something that worked the previous one even if it was flawed. Look at Madrid this year lol. So Malouda in a 433 was set in stone. Unfortunately, everyone got old very fast and there were injuries.

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