Re: Star Wars – Official Canon Thread. - RIP Carrie Fisher

[RealGunner]

Saw Di Caprio wasn't even nominated for oscars that year for titanic.

Jack Nicholson won it for 'As Good as It Gets' which with all due respect sounds awful.

Mat Damon didn't win for Good will hunting Probably because they didn't want it to give it to someone young and went for experience

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Saw Di Caprio wasn't even nominated for oscars that year for titanic.

Jack Nicholson won it for 'As Good as It Gets' which with all due respect sounds awful.

Mat Damon didn't win for Good will hunting Probably because they didn't want it to give it to someone young and went for experience

As Good as it Gets was a great film imo, also Jack Nicholson is a GOAT imo.

[BarrileteCosmico]

He won for screenwriting though, in what was essentially a nerd wish fulfilment film.

[Freeza]

No because money is not constant. A dollar in 2015 is not the same thing as a dollar in 1990 or 1970. It's worth much, much less. Economists calll this the money illusion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_illusion

The only way to really make comparisons across time like we are doing is to adjust it for inflation.

No it isn't. Like at all. The supply and demand of movies is a much different factor in today's market. There's no way to use inflation as a valid box office ranking. The market is different and should be seperated into different eras.

Infaltion is a way too vague term.

Gone with the wind ran for years as the only film in cinemas. This is a huge factor.

I hate bringing up this inflation, since there's so much to be desired.

[BarrileteCosmico]

If you want to divide on eras that's fine with me (so long as you still inflation adjust) but I don't think any era is particularly benefitted. Gone with the Wind might have been the only film to show, but nowadays every film reaches every corner of the Earth, which GwtW certainly didn't, so the market is much bigger.

Also if you want to make the era argument I really think the box office has lost its true meaning now that we had VHRs, DVDs, BluRays, Streamings, PPV, merchandising, etc. We should really be talking about Revenues.

[Freeza]

If you want to divide on eras that's fine with me (so long as you still inflation adjust) but I don't think any era is particularly benefitted. Gone with the Wind might have been the only film to show, but nowadays every film reaches every corner of the Earth, which GwtW certainly didn't, so the market is much bigger.

Also if you want to make the era argument I really think the box office has lost its true meaning now that we had VHRs, DVDs, BluRays, Streamings, PPV, merchandising, etc. We should really be talking about Revenues.

Agree with the last paragraph. But there is no possible way to compare the box office of movie from the 30s and movies now. The factors are too big. The information about the money are also not detailed.

I just wrote a 20page report on this subject. And the biggest factor overall is, that in this decade there's been such a huge digitalization of the projection system that has eliminated every and all difficulty in obtained and showing movie. Which means every single theater can show basically every single movie out there, because they're downloaded and shown digitally. The downside of this, is that small movies don't earn enough money to survive and blockbusters earn most money. Also the money has to be earned over an 8-9 week period, or 90% of it. I can't see how any number since the digitalization can be compared with the numbers after, since it's a whole different world we live in.

The real money-earning thing is merchandising though. No one earns more from that, than the Star Wars franchise. They've probably sold more DVDs of their original trilogy this year than any other movie. Since they bought it from George they've also earned back the amount they paid in toys alone.

[zigra]

Why are you actually so obsessed with how much of a profit a movie makes?
I think I've never met a single person before who really cared about it  

Genuine question cause I'm honestly confused

[Freeza]

Why are you actually so obsessed with how much of a profit a movie makes?
I think I've never met a single person before who really cared about it  

Genuine question cause I'm honestly confused

Everything that gets produced in Hollywood is influenced by the amount of money in makes. Therefor Star Wars making a lot of money means more Star Wars films.

That pleases me. A lot.

[CBarca]

Ye I meant this year, thanks Freeza.

Vader in today's filmmaking world? My Lord nvm I'm hyped.

[Freeza]

Ye I meant this year, thanks Freeza.

Vader in today's filmmaking world? My Lord nvm I'm hyped.

Exactly why I'm hyped for it. We never really saw the extent of his powers because the technology didn't allow it. Hope to see him take down a couple X-wings with the force. I would die.

Also this

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Neither did the story line tbf.

Which is probably the biggest reason, by the time New Hope happened in what's considered the lore now is nearly 20 years after Revenge of the Sith.

So naturally he was emotionally a different person who had just experienced the only thing he cared about in his life die.

Seeing a younger Vader before he got to the master point in a New Hope where he was calm as shit but amazingly powerful as well would be great.

[Freeza]

Just found out Vader was 45 or something when he died

Thought he was like 60 because David Prowse looked old as f Didn't know why it never occured to me.

[M99]

I saw Titanic like about 10 years ago or so. Never saw it again but i know the story and all


What's the reason for it being such a massive hit in terms of box office?

It's because it was re-watched like crazy. It actually made the most money two months after it's relase on Valentine's Day. Teen girls watched it like eight times, couples watched it, people took girls to watch it to get laid.

[M99]

Also yeah, can't wait to see Hayden Christensen's performance in Rogue One.

[CBarca]

Watched it again in 2D this time. Such a great movie.

I underestimated Driver the first time, he's so good in the film.

[Freeza]

Finished Lost Stars. Really loved it. Gives a really great look of both sides of the Empire/Rebel conflict during the times of the original trilogy and how the though proces is for the people serving both sides. Overall the story is a romance though, and a really good one. I recommend it highly.

[CBarca]

Spoiler:

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Spoiler:

[Bellabong]

This is the same guy that's writing the next movie

[silver]

Regarding Kylo Ren, my issue is that he's got no presence as the main antagonist. It feels like he's just some kid playing in the grown up world. As soon as he took off his mask, all his aura just disappeared. Seems like an unpopular opinion around here.

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[McLewis]

Spoiler:

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Regarding Kylo Ren, my issue is that he's got no presence as the main antagonist. It feels like he's just some kid playing in the grown up world. As soon as he took off his mask, all his aura just disappeared. Seems like an unpopular opinion around here.

Right there with you on Kylo Ren.

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[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

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[Freeza]

Adam Driver portrays him exactly as he's written. This can be seen in the book.

Rey's age is 19

Kylo is 29

[McLewis]

Spoiler:

Well that's the thing.

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[Freeza]

Han Solo shortlist

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/star-wars-han-solo-spinoff-actors-1201675519/

Sources tell Variety that after seeing thousands of actors, execs have cut the list down to about a dozen actors with:
Miles Teller
Ansel Elgort
Dave Franco
Jack Reynor
Scott Eastwood
Logan Lerman
Emory Cohen
Blake Jenner

Scott Eastwood would be my pick of those listed, by far. If Taron Egerton isn't in the list also.

[CBarca]

Dave Franco

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