Re: World Cup 2018 Qualifiers Discussion

by RealGunner Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:56 pm

They shocked Latvia the other day

by RealGunner Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:01 pm

CB taking corners for Netherland. Seems legit

by Nishankly Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:09 pm

Martinez shouting commands in English to the Belgian players rofl

Wait how many of them play in the PL?

by rincon Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:10 pm

I'm liking the play from the netherlands, I'm gladly surprised. They can do damage here.

by RealGunner Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:12 pm

Nishankly wrote:Martinez shouting commands in English to the Belgian players

Wait how many of them play in the PL?

Half the team Laughing

edit: 6/11 plays in the PL.

by Nishankly Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:12 pm

I've GL jinxed them, Portugal already 2-0 up. Even the Faroe Islands isn't safe from the #GLjinx

by RealGunner Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:16 pm

POGBA WOW

by rincon Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:17 pm

WHAT A SHOOT Shocked

by rincon Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:17 pm

bad from Stekelenburg though

by RealGunner Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:18 pm

Nvm GK should have saved it.

Koscielny is immense.

by RealGunner Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:23 pm

André Silva hattrick for Portugal

@Nishankly

by Nishankly Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:28 pm

RealGunner wrote:André Silva hattrick for Portugal

@Nishankly

Yeah switched to Belgium so that can i feel i'm watching the PL. Razz

Benteke 3-0, His second of the game. He broke the record of the WC qualifier with a goal after 6 seconds. ffs u rock ppl

by rincon Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:31 pm

how was that not a penalty for the netherlands??

by RealGunner Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:33 pm

Wasn't deliberate.

by sportsczy Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:37 pm

If it's not deliberate, the hand has to be in an unnatural position... the rule has developed over the years. Frankly, it makes it very hard on the referees.

by rincon Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:37 pm

Doesn't matter. They ball could have very easily bounced into the path of any ducth player, but the same player whose arms it hit, ended up playing it. Clear penalty. The ball trajectory was clearly affected by a player trying to block the striker, who proceeded to kick the ball out.

by halamadrid2 Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:37 pm

This Swedish team is much better than that we had at the Euros. No more Seb Larsson to torture my eyes. Lindelöf starting aka future best CB in Europe. This team is full of players that were part of the U21 triumph. Bring on the big guns ffs

by RealGunner Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:39 pm

That might be true, but Koscielny couldn't make his hands disappear unfortunately. He dived to clear the ball and the ball ricochet to his hands which were in natural position.

by sportsczy Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:39 pm

that's not the criteria though rincon. it has to be one of three thing:
1- deliberate
2- have time to move your arm out of the way
3- arm in an unnatural position

Kos tackled and got the ball. He landed on the ball with his arm in a natural position in a half second and never saw it. You can't call a foul there (although plenty of refs do).

by sportsczy Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:42 pm

By the way... this rule was further developed as a result of the PK France got in the 2000 Euro semi final against Portugal. It was pretty similar to this. The Portuguese defender was in the box and stopped a shot that may have gone in. His arm was in a natural position and he didn't have time to get it out of the way. PK was called.

Everyone went crazy and they created this rule so you don't get that situation again.

by rincon Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:43 pm

Nope, Koscielny didn't fall by accident, he did that to block the shot. He ended up blocking it with his arms. He didn't have to be diving like that, he did it to stop the ball. The result was the ball bouncing between his arms. The whole action was deliberate, its not like the striker kicked it to his arms. Kos dived to block, caught it with his outstretched arms and played it. Absolutely a penalty. You'd be losing it if it was against France.

by rincon Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:44 pm

https://streamable.com/xv26

by sportsczy Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:47 pm

whatever. dead subject. everyone has their opinion Laughing

Key is ref didn't call it for the reasons i mentioned.

by RealGunner Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:49 pm

He blocked that shot wit his legs mate. Look how he turned around to block it using either his back or leg depending on how Jansen hits it. Ball only hits his hands after it ricochet from his legs

by rincon Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:54 pm

Yes, it his his legs too, but the ball trajectory was completely altered in his favor with his arms by an action he took deliberately. He didn't need to dive like that. Doing so is the only reason his arms were outstretched and he stopped the ball. Spanish commentators calling a penalty too.

by Nishankly Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:54 pm

Why is Depay playing this? Did he start?

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