Re: Harry Kane Appreciation Thread A.K.A Soldado's Death Sentence

by Forza Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:32 am

Nah, you guys act like he's the best CB in the world. That's the problem.

by B-Mac Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:42 am

Koscielny is Arsenals Kompany

good player no doubt but over hyped and can do no wrong

by Raptorgunner Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:44 am

B-Mac wrote:Koscielny is Arsenals Kompany

good player no doubt but over hyped and can do no wrong

How dare you compare him to that fraud? Clubber

by El Gunner Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:02 am

How do we say he is the best CB in the world????? When have we ever done pls quote.

Pls go ffs, acting like Koscielny is some scrub. Was he actually at fault for one of the goals y'day? NO! Yea, Kane out-jumped him for the second, but who doesn't get outjumped every now and then Laughing

Koscienly brings stability, speed and great awareness to our back 4. He's he has made a few awful decisions in the past which led to red card or penalty, but he is easily our best CB and one of the best in the league. And as he'll grow older he'll only get better.

by Gil Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:31 am

He was clearly at fault for both goals. Needless slide tackle under no pressure to give away a free-kick that eventually led to the equalizer. And then getting raped by Kane for the winner. Laughing

by MaraVilla Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:48 am

glad barca chose verminator when wenger asked who they wanted out of the two for 20m

by Art Morte Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:00 am

It's a little unfair to criticize Koscielny for the goals. No defender in the world is going to get first to every ball into the box. If it falls favourably for the attacker, he's going to get to it first. It's easy to criticize the closest defender and often there's reason, too, but not always. Arsenal didn't lose because of Koscielny, they lost because they were not good enough collectively.

by Sri Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:52 am

Art Morte wrote:It's a little unfair to criticize Koscielny for the goals. No defender in the world is going to get first to every ball into the box. If it falls favourably for the attacker, he's going to get to it first. It's easy to criticize the closest defender and often there's reason, too, but not always. Arsenal didn't lose because of Koscielny, they lost because they were not good enough collectively.

Good to know that not there are still some posters with a modicum of rationale.

by Forza Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:33 pm

srigooner wrote:
Art Morte wrote:It's a little unfair to criticize Koscielny for the goals. No defender in the world is going to get first to every ball into the box. If it falls favourably for the attacker, he's going to get to it first. It's easy to criticize the closest defender and often there's reason, too, but not always. Arsenal didn't lose because of Koscielny, they lost because they were not good enough collectively.

Good to know that not there are still some posters with a modicum of rationale.

I stand my my criticism of the over-hyping of Kos generally, but Art is also correct. In the majority of cases, the entire defence (and team) is responsible for conceding a goal. In a zonal marking system, the back 4 defend as a unit. Any blame must be apportioned to more than 1 player in most cases. Of course, there are some times when individuals go out on a limb and break strategy or show poor quality in their tackling or marking. However, often I find that individuals are made scapegoats for a team's collective mistakes. Then again, there are some individual defenders who think themselves above the system and are constantly out of order.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:11 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I just love how he keeps peddling this CL Final nonsense, it's as if he's forgotten that Costa did nothing in quarters, semi and final.

Hardly his fault as it was mostly due to injury and suspension but he didn't lead them to shit.
Except a league title you mean? His goals carried Atleti for a season and a half. Let's not forget his striking partner was Raul Garcia.

Didn't you read? I said CL final.

Also his partner most of the time was David Villa and besides it wasn't just Costa let's not act like he was the only player they lost last summer.

Let's not act like Courtois and Luis weren't heavy contributors and Villa is better than their 2nd choice forwards now.

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:15 pm

MaraVilla wrote:glad barca chose verminator when wenger asked who they wanted out of the two for 20m

Won't even train with the team until March VAGI

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:19 pm

Koscielny is extremely overrated lol, he's basically the french Vermealen and has the exact same strengths and weaknesses.

He constantly makes extremely erratic and irrational mistakes on a weekly basis due to being far too aggressive and often leaves Mertesacker alone on a island.

Because he sometimes recovers due to pace doesn't mean it's OK and doesn't mean it doesn't lead to the defence being exposed.

It's not anything new either before anyone starts, it's been the case his entire career.

by El Gunner Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:03 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Koscielny is extremely overrated lol, he's basically the french Vermealen and has the exact same strengths and weaknesses.

He constantly makes extremely erratic and irrational mistakes on a weekly basis due to being far too aggressive and often leaves Mertesacker alone on a island.

Because he sometimes recovers due to pace doesn't mean it's OK and doesn't mean it doesn't lead to the defence being exposed.

It's not anything new either before anyone starts, it's been the case his entire career.

not sure if bait or extremely risible.

by iftikhar Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:12 pm

So, will he be still with Spurs next season!!!

by CBarca Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:35 pm

Koscielny is a great defender who, like every defender, occasionally makes rash and stupid decisions. People are just knee-jerking his poor performance.

Still a class defender in my opinion and I wouldn't mind even now Barca buying him for 25 million euros or so.

by M99 Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:28 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
B-Mac wrote:Koscielny is Arsenals Kompany

good player no doubt but over hyped and can do no wrong

How dare you compare him to that fraud?

See what I mean? It is blaphsmey to compare him to Kompany when they are at the same level actually Laughing

Mole is right he is overrated, not generally but by Gunners.

What games I have been watching? A lot. This is not a knee jerk. He is a good defender but not as good as some people make him out to be. I have seen him concede a lot of stupid penalties and throw the game away from his rashness, it's not possible to remember what those specific games were. I think one of them was France vs Ukraine 1st leg of World Cup playoffs which France lose 2-0.

by Kick Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:06 am

Ok, how about we return to the topic of Kane.

Enough talking about Kos, if you wish to discuss him further, use the EPL thread.

by Red Alert Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:20 am

He won't score against Lovren. Proud

Because he'd be on the bench.

Because a full back in Johnson would most definitely start over him.

Because he's shit. *Add the proud face here*

by B-Mac Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:52 pm

Madrid tracking Tottenham star Harry Kane. According to the London Evening Standard

Proud

by Sri Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:24 am

We could do with Benzema, if you know what I mean hmm

by Lex Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:42 pm

Goal and assist tonight

Lecy better rebuild that bro bridge with Madrid, they'll be calling soon hmm

by Sri Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:44 pm

Do we then get Benzema for 50mil ?

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:54 pm

Spurs to sell Kane for Benzema and 50m you mean?

by Sri Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:58 pm

Nah that's not how it works.. Spurs sell for money, cuz you know.. Then Madrid make money by selling one their stars to us.. I would like Illaramendi, but Benzema and Wenger have this really old love story you know.. And then Spurs spend all that money on buying shite players, while the shite the palm off to Madrid performs hot and cold before being flogged off to, idk United or something..

by Sri Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:00 pm

Afterall, he is one of their own

Spoiler:

by futbol Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:01 pm

srigooner wrote:Nah that's not how it works.. Spurs sell for money, cuz you know.. Then Madrid make money by selling one their stars to us.. I would like Illaramendi, but Benzema and Wenger have this really old love story you know.. And then Spurs spend all that money on buying shite players, while the shite the palm off to Madrid performs hot and cold before being flogged off to, idk United or something..

9/10 story. Wud give 10/10 if Barca buying injured Diaby for € 20M to play at CB would have been part of the story.

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