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Premier League R2 - Everton 2 - 2 Arsenal: Football can be a simple game
At half time I was very much in doom and gloom mode. An all too familiar half away to a big side, with little cause for optimism left me predicting Everton to pile on the misery and beat us comprehensively. Certainly, the tone of this would be distinctly different to what it will be now.
But football is never short of surprises and Arsenal can defy expectation every now and then. We looked very much out the game, but found two goals from somewhere and come away with a point that many would have accepted before kick-off.
As I've said in the previous threads, Arsenal are very much a team still searching for full fitness and tactical understanding. A short pre-season with new players has made us look a little off the pace and disjointed and this game against Everton came at a pretty bad time. This is an awkward time for the team and fans, because expectations are so high, but we aren't ready to meet them yet. As an example, the team that played the first half would've been many people's first choice eleven for this game, yet it didn't yield the results we wanted.
It's clear as day that Alexis isn't on the same wavelength as the rest of the team, and that Debuchy isn't on the same wavelength as the rest of his defence. Chambers showed his inexperience at times, while Mertesacker and Ozil, unsurprisingly, didn't look up to speed. So really, expecting any sort of cohesive performance from this lot isn't realistic right now.
It was a highly frustrating first half where Arsenal played okay up to the edge of the Everton penalty area, but lacked any sort of penetration. Chances were limited to half-chances, particularly shots from the edge of the box, most of which were squandered by Chamberlain. Arsenal lacked a focal point in the middle, with Alexis torn between coming short and getting involved or trying to play off the shoulder. Our left hand side also became too congested, with Ozil, Wilshere and Ramsey all congregating in that area, leaving no one to move in behind Everton.
We tried to break through with quick exchanges of passing but it was too precise and too complex every time. It's so typical of a modern day Arsenal attack; it has to be tight and intricate, quick one-twos and pretty patterns. Yet we're just crying out for something more penetrative. Maybe some nice wing play, or a more direct ball, or an overlapping full back. Something simpler. Football is, when you get down to it, a simple game.
Everton proved as much. They had few shots and not a lot of the play in our half but scored the opening goal from a simple lofted ball into the penalty area. Barry had about 100 years to pick out the pass from the edge of our box, and Coleman, marked by Ozil, for some reason, got on the end of it to head it in. It's lax defending, exposed by one pass and one run.
Things got more annoying when Everton passed the ball around at the back for a good couple of minutes while Arsenal, a goal down, stood off and let them. We just allowed Everton to take the sting out of the game. Where's the pressure? Where's the urgency? Why were letting them control the pace of the game? This was remarkably similar to last year. The fight wasn't there.
So when Everton went 2-0 up through a simple counter attack, I really feared a collapse. Another Arsenal attack broke down, Everton played out to Lukaku who rolled Mertesacker, evaded Monreal's diving challenge, played in Naismith who scored through the keeper's legs. Easy as you like, and helped by the linesman who failed to give Naismith offside.
The second half compounded the feeling that nothing was going our way. Arsenal kept going with their tippy-tappy stuff around the box but couldn't make any decent chances. Giroud had a difficult chance at the start of the half but couldn't keep his volley down, and that was the best of it. A couple of shots from the edge of the box was all we managed to produce.
Then we do something simple. Monreal puts a good cross in, somebody, for once, makes a run at the back post and they score a tap-in. None of this intricate passing rubbish that isn't producing anything. Just a routine cross from a full back to Ramsey making a late run at the back post.
A miracle occurred when we did it again. Ramsey's cross is awful, but it luckily falls to Monreal. He put it back in, right on Giroud's forehead, and he buried it. And that goal felt like a winning goal in the circumstances.
It's a great result for us at this point. We performed poorly again, and that's expected, yet we still got a point out of it. That's an improvement from last season, where a poor performance resulted in a thrashing. That we kept going and was rewarded for it is the biggest positive we could take from the game.
As I said, I think many of us would've taken a point before the game. We all predicted a slow start to the season so all that mattered were positive results in August. Well, so far, we've won the Community Shield, have four points in the league and have nearly secured Champions League qualification. We're on target.
Now onto another big game on Wednesday. Let's hope we have no more injuries between now and then.
But football is never short of surprises and Arsenal can defy expectation every now and then. We looked very much out the game, but found two goals from somewhere and come away with a point that many would have accepted before kick-off.
As I've said in the previous threads, Arsenal are very much a team still searching for full fitness and tactical understanding. A short pre-season with new players has made us look a little off the pace and disjointed and this game against Everton came at a pretty bad time. This is an awkward time for the team and fans, because expectations are so high, but we aren't ready to meet them yet. As an example, the team that played the first half would've been many people's first choice eleven for this game, yet it didn't yield the results we wanted.
It's clear as day that Alexis isn't on the same wavelength as the rest of the team, and that Debuchy isn't on the same wavelength as the rest of his defence. Chambers showed his inexperience at times, while Mertesacker and Ozil, unsurprisingly, didn't look up to speed. So really, expecting any sort of cohesive performance from this lot isn't realistic right now.
It was a highly frustrating first half where Arsenal played okay up to the edge of the Everton penalty area, but lacked any sort of penetration. Chances were limited to half-chances, particularly shots from the edge of the box, most of which were squandered by Chamberlain. Arsenal lacked a focal point in the middle, with Alexis torn between coming short and getting involved or trying to play off the shoulder. Our left hand side also became too congested, with Ozil, Wilshere and Ramsey all congregating in that area, leaving no one to move in behind Everton.
We tried to break through with quick exchanges of passing but it was too precise and too complex every time. It's so typical of a modern day Arsenal attack; it has to be tight and intricate, quick one-twos and pretty patterns. Yet we're just crying out for something more penetrative. Maybe some nice wing play, or a more direct ball, or an overlapping full back. Something simpler. Football is, when you get down to it, a simple game.
Everton proved as much. They had few shots and not a lot of the play in our half but scored the opening goal from a simple lofted ball into the penalty area. Barry had about 100 years to pick out the pass from the edge of our box, and Coleman, marked by Ozil, for some reason, got on the end of it to head it in. It's lax defending, exposed by one pass and one run.
Things got more annoying when Everton passed the ball around at the back for a good couple of minutes while Arsenal, a goal down, stood off and let them. We just allowed Everton to take the sting out of the game. Where's the pressure? Where's the urgency? Why were letting them control the pace of the game? This was remarkably similar to last year. The fight wasn't there.
So when Everton went 2-0 up through a simple counter attack, I really feared a collapse. Another Arsenal attack broke down, Everton played out to Lukaku who rolled Mertesacker, evaded Monreal's diving challenge, played in Naismith who scored through the keeper's legs. Easy as you like, and helped by the linesman who failed to give Naismith offside.
The second half compounded the feeling that nothing was going our way. Arsenal kept going with their tippy-tappy stuff around the box but couldn't make any decent chances. Giroud had a difficult chance at the start of the half but couldn't keep his volley down, and that was the best of it. A couple of shots from the edge of the box was all we managed to produce.
Then we do something simple. Monreal puts a good cross in, somebody, for once, makes a run at the back post and they score a tap-in. None of this intricate passing rubbish that isn't producing anything. Just a routine cross from a full back to Ramsey making a late run at the back post.
A miracle occurred when we did it again. Ramsey's cross is awful, but it luckily falls to Monreal. He put it back in, right on Giroud's forehead, and he buried it. And that goal felt like a winning goal in the circumstances.
It's a great result for us at this point. We performed poorly again, and that's expected, yet we still got a point out of it. That's an improvement from last season, where a poor performance resulted in a thrashing. That we kept going and was rewarded for it is the biggest positive we could take from the game.
As I said, I think many of us would've taken a point before the game. We all predicted a slow start to the season so all that mattered were positive results in August. Well, so far, we've won the Community Shield, have four points in the league and have nearly secured Champions League qualification. We're on target.
Now onto another big game on Wednesday. Let's hope we have no more injuries between now and then.
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awesome summary really! extremely satisfied with the point!
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Horrible 80 minutes, really need to be much better but good result.
Giroud is better as a sub he shows this every time he comes on. Giroud is the type of player you need in these situations where the opposition are sitting back.
Have to say Giroud played well in the second half and should have had more than one goal but Wenger must buy another striker.
Giroud is better as a sub he shows this every time he comes on. Giroud is the type of player you need in these situations where the opposition are sitting back.
Have to say Giroud played well in the second half and should have had more than one goal but Wenger must buy another striker.
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It was a very frustrating match but we shouldn't take away any cast-in-stone conclusions. The squad we have is still achieving fitness and understanding, that's all.
Poor performance overall but we came into it and got an away point against a very good team. I'm gonna wait a few more weeks until making any judgments about how Arsenal are doomed to failure, or how Alexis is absolutely 100% incapable of playing up top against any opposition.
Poor performance overall but we came into it and got an away point against a very good team. I'm gonna wait a few more weeks until making any judgments about how Arsenal are doomed to failure, or how Alexis is absolutely 100% incapable of playing up top against any opposition.
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its true, every time giroud comes on as sub he plays well, when he start he plays poor. but in this type of game when the opposition team is prone to sitting deep, giroud has to play.
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The first half was simply frustrating!
We played a stupid sitting game. Now that might work sometimes, but our pressing was just ridiculously disjointed. We gave Barry too much time in that half let alone for the goal. We had no fluency and incision in our attack (same as 2 matches before). Ramsey played poorly and made poor passes. Alexis tried to stretch the Everton defence but there was just no one close to him to take advantage of that.
Özil was non-existent and Debuchy was no where to be found at RB.
Second half. We started brightly. Giroud changed the game for us and credit must go to him for that. We then continued in a subdued manner. And as the half went on Everton just increasingly sat deeper and THAT'S the reason why I think we got the point in the end.
I know it's still early on in the season. But these have been the faults in our game in the first 3 matches. We have no fluency in our build up play. Everything is slow. And it looked like our back 4 was same old, same old again like it was last season away at the big teams. Some of you might not like complaints early on in the season but these are issues which needs to be addressed as quickly as possible.
I'm not so sure about Debuchy atm. He really needs to improve his positioning and one on one defending.
Wilshere played decent in the first half but he really needs to improve more as well.
Flamini is not good enough at DM.
We played a stupid sitting game. Now that might work sometimes, but our pressing was just ridiculously disjointed. We gave Barry too much time in that half let alone for the goal. We had no fluency and incision in our attack (same as 2 matches before). Ramsey played poorly and made poor passes. Alexis tried to stretch the Everton defence but there was just no one close to him to take advantage of that.
Özil was non-existent and Debuchy was no where to be found at RB.
Second half. We started brightly. Giroud changed the game for us and credit must go to him for that. We then continued in a subdued manner. And as the half went on Everton just increasingly sat deeper and THAT'S the reason why I think we got the point in the end.
I know it's still early on in the season. But these have been the faults in our game in the first 3 matches. We have no fluency in our build up play. Everything is slow. And it looked like our back 4 was same old, same old again like it was last season away at the big teams. Some of you might not like complaints early on in the season but these are issues which needs to be addressed as quickly as possible.
I'm not so sure about Debuchy atm. He really needs to improve his positioning and one on one defending.
Wilshere played decent in the first half but he really needs to improve more as well.
Flamini is not good enough at DM.
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Couple of other things I noticed:
- Sanchez is used to intense amount of pressing from Barcelona days, you could see him did hand signal push every time Everton passing the ball around
- When Koz & Mertz plays, the latter sit deep, while with Chambers, Mertz seems to be the 1st one went for the ball. I'm not sure if it's just the 1st time they combined or tactical decision from Wenger.
- Jack needs bench & Monreal needs help.
- Sanchez is used to intense amount of pressing from Barcelona days, you could see him did hand signal push every time Everton passing the ball around
- When Koz & Mertz plays, the latter sit deep, while with Chambers, Mertz seems to be the 1st one went for the ball. I'm not sure if it's just the 1st time they combined or tactical decision from Wenger.
- Jack needs bench & Monreal needs help.
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Twoism wrote:Couple of other things I noticed:
- Sanchez is used to intense amount of pressing from Barcelona days, you could see him did hand signal push every time Everton passing the ball around
- When Koz & Mertz plays, the latter sit deep, while with Chambers, Mertz seems to be the 1st one went for the ball. I'm not sure if it's just the 1st time they combined or tactical decision from Wenger.
- Jack needs bench & Monreal needs help.
When Sanchez looked at Özil and gave him the hurry up I was like ... 'Well, good luck with that.'
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Flamini and Arteta are simply not good enough, we need real steel in the midfield. DM and CF is a must.
Are the reports of Giroud being injured true? Season hasn't started and we dropping like flies.
Are the reports of Giroud being injured true? Season hasn't started and we dropping like flies.
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Was a really good summary Jay, completely agreed.
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We need to stop giving away daft goals in these sort of games, playing everton away from home is hard enough without giving them these type of presents. In terms of performance it was better than Palace and Besitkas, we moved the ball better and there was some fluency about our game but we were still far from our best especially in the final third.
I lost count of the amount of times moves brokedown in the final third. I think to play the way we play we need a focal point, someone who will occupy the two centre halves and give the attacking players something to hit. Giroud came on and certainly did that although he still frustrated us with one or two misses. Sanchez can play upfront but it has to be against teams who play a high line, once Everton got that second goal they sat deep and played on the counter attack which made it difficult for him
I lost count of the amount of times moves brokedown in the final third. I think to play the way we play we need a focal point, someone who will occupy the two centre halves and give the attacking players something to hit. Giroud came on and certainly did that although he still frustrated us with one or two misses. Sanchez can play upfront but it has to be against teams who play a high line, once Everton got that second goal they sat deep and played on the counter attack which made it difficult for him
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Wenger on Giroud.
on Giroud…
I have more strikers than before so sometimes I can give them a little rest. Giroud has just played one game since the World Cup so I gave him a little breather today but I knew we were dominating the game in the second half and we needed some physical presence up front and he did that very well in the second half.
on Giroud…
I have more strikers than before so sometimes I can give them a little rest. Giroud has just played one game since the World Cup so I gave him a little breather today but I knew we were dominating the game in the second half and we needed some physical presence up front and he did that very well in the second half.
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Good result at a difficult place, poor performance - similar to the ones we had against Crystal Palace and Besiktas except we faced a much better team.
I've probably repeated this far too often but why does Wenger insist on putting some of our attacking players in uncomfortable positons? It's really *bleep* frustrating. Oxlade-Chamberlain is NOT one of those kick and run players you can put on the wing and tell him to make runs, he needs to see the pitch, on the left or centrally. If you have seen Neymar playing on the right wing under Martino, that's the same crap Wenger is pulling with Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Then you have Özil playing for 90 minutes on the left wing. Just because Löw did it, it doesn't mean you have to do it. Özil didn't play his best games on that left wing for Germany and this is with Höwedes playing LB, leaving him with little defensive responsibility. What happened to the "preferential vision" Wenger was blabbing about? Özil clearly sees the pitch better while he is drifting right, every child knows that.
Anyway, in the end the players showed great mentality to get back in the game. Against Besiktas we won't have Ramsey popping up with a late goal so we better perform as a team, it's about time.
I've probably repeated this far too often but why does Wenger insist on putting some of our attacking players in uncomfortable positons? It's really *bleep* frustrating. Oxlade-Chamberlain is NOT one of those kick and run players you can put on the wing and tell him to make runs, he needs to see the pitch, on the left or centrally. If you have seen Neymar playing on the right wing under Martino, that's the same crap Wenger is pulling with Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Then you have Özil playing for 90 minutes on the left wing. Just because Löw did it, it doesn't mean you have to do it. Özil didn't play his best games on that left wing for Germany and this is with Höwedes playing LB, leaving him with little defensive responsibility. What happened to the "preferential vision" Wenger was blabbing about? Özil clearly sees the pitch better while he is drifting right, every child knows that.
Anyway, in the end the players showed great mentality to get back in the game. Against Besiktas we won't have Ramsey popping up with a late goal so we better perform as a team, it's about time.
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great come back
our starting XI was gamble,Alexis and others doesnt know each others moves well yet
but Giroud had clear physical advantage of being fresher vs CBs,thats the good thing about him as a sub
Chamberlain need to work in his shooting technique
has to get them on target
hopefully we go back to 4231 with Özil central
he would have used space behind full backs better if he had freedom in #10 role
love that bit when Alexis weas covering for Chambers vs Mirallas tracking all the way back
again for all the talk of wenger not doing tactics(lol)we changed our way but a bit late more like a mistake corrected
although everton yet again were lucky this fixture came right time for them
A fit Kos would have started and Lukaku would have done zilch
a bit worrying The role Naismith played again and worked quite well(could have been exposed more if their CMs had more goal threat
Perhaps having a holding Mid who can play CB is the solution to deal with it
our starting XI was gamble,Alexis and others doesnt know each others moves well yet
but Giroud had clear physical advantage of being fresher vs CBs,thats the good thing about him as a sub
Chamberlain need to work in his shooting technique
has to get them on target
hopefully we go back to 4231 with Özil central
he would have used space behind full backs better if he had freedom in #10 role
love that bit when Alexis weas covering for Chambers vs Mirallas tracking all the way back
again for all the talk of wenger not doing tactics(lol)we changed our way but a bit late more like a mistake corrected
although everton yet again were lucky this fixture came right time for them
A fit Kos would have started and Lukaku would have done zilch
a bit worrying The role Naismith played again and worked quite well(could have been exposed more if their CMs had more goal threat
Perhaps having a holding Mid who can play CB is the solution to deal with it
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Once the full game is up on Arsenal Player (or once someone provides me a link to the full game *hint hint*), I'm going to take a look at Arsenal's first half attacking, complete with screenshots. Haven't done something like that in a while.
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http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/england/premier-league/everton-vs-arsenal-2
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Nothing more to add to the OP. But few things I'll discuss.
I am as concerned as everyone else about the lack of technical stability. But it will come with time because we have players who are playing at a level they shouldn't be at. It's a shame this was a WC year because we could have started the season running had the understanding been there between the players and they all played together more. Like Jay said, Sanchez doesn't have the understanding with the rest of the team. He comes deep too often when he shouldn't and he makes runs at the wrong time. All the things which will improve in few weeks.
And of course the lack of balance is still there in midfield with Wilshere-Ramsey. I love Wilshere and IMO he has been playing better than Ramsey performance wise, but he should benched because he is not letting Ramsey play his own game atm. Ramsey has to sit too deep and eventhough he is good at it, our whole system suffers because of it. Ramsey is best at a B2B role and atm he has to play as CM. If you watched MOTD, Savage brought an interesting point where he said Wilshere is a frustrated player. I don't agree with all of it because Wilshere cares more about the team than himself, however he was right in the sense that Wilshere is scared he will be benched once everyone is fit and that is leading him to do things he would never do. Which in the end does lead to the performance overall being poor and lack of balance between attack and defence.
Flamini was decent today. Against Besiktas i am hoping to see a midfield of Flamini-Wilshere-Cazorla. Or if by some miracle Diaby is fit, then Diaby-Wilshere-Cazorla. Upfront Oxlade/Joel-Giroud-Sanchez. Although I doubt it. Cazorla will start at LW probably.
In any case. A point at Everton is fantastic. Top teams WILL drop points there. We did 1 point better than last season. And we don't go to goodison again in the PL!
Enjoy the weekend and lets hope we put 5 past Besiktas
I am as concerned as everyone else about the lack of technical stability. But it will come with time because we have players who are playing at a level they shouldn't be at. It's a shame this was a WC year because we could have started the season running had the understanding been there between the players and they all played together more. Like Jay said, Sanchez doesn't have the understanding with the rest of the team. He comes deep too often when he shouldn't and he makes runs at the wrong time. All the things which will improve in few weeks.
And of course the lack of balance is still there in midfield with Wilshere-Ramsey. I love Wilshere and IMO he has been playing better than Ramsey performance wise, but he should benched because he is not letting Ramsey play his own game atm. Ramsey has to sit too deep and eventhough he is good at it, our whole system suffers because of it. Ramsey is best at a B2B role and atm he has to play as CM. If you watched MOTD, Savage brought an interesting point where he said Wilshere is a frustrated player. I don't agree with all of it because Wilshere cares more about the team than himself, however he was right in the sense that Wilshere is scared he will be benched once everyone is fit and that is leading him to do things he would never do. Which in the end does lead to the performance overall being poor and lack of balance between attack and defence.
Flamini was decent today. Against Besiktas i am hoping to see a midfield of Flamini-Wilshere-Cazorla. Or if by some miracle Diaby is fit, then Diaby-Wilshere-Cazorla. Upfront Oxlade/Joel-Giroud-Sanchez. Although I doubt it. Cazorla will start at LW probably.
In any case. A point at Everton is fantastic. Top teams WILL drop points there. We did 1 point better than last season. And we don't go to goodison again in the PL!
Enjoy the weekend and lets hope we put 5 past Besiktas
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We've got the players in our squad that can score goals, but at the moment our attack is so impotent. I can't believe we are still stuck in the mindset of tippy-tappy 2-1s around the box which requires perfect precision. Every team in the EPL know how to defend against us, just pack 8 defenders in the box and we can't break through. The lack of movement once we got to the Everton box was astonishing. How did we think we were going to score against 8 Everton defenders, 2 of our guys in the box with no movement and trying to walk our way into the box. Of course once we inevitably lose the box, 3 passes later and Everton are through on goal.
I honestly believed that after the West ham game last season, when Podolski and Walcott brought in directness and end product, that we were capable of switching it up and changing our attacking strategy. Just because tippy tappy worked twice last season from a billion attempts and looks good, doesn't mean there aren't other ways to score.
Other points:
- Enough of this 4-1-4-1. Just bench Wilshere already. Don't care if it "kills his confidence".
- Play Ozil in the middle.
- Play Cazorla in the middle.
- Direct fast pace men on the flanks (Ox, Walcott, Sanchez, Campbell, maybe Podolski).
- Stop trying to play out from the keeper. One of these days we are going to concede.
I honestly believed that after the West ham game last season, when Podolski and Walcott brought in directness and end product, that we were capable of switching it up and changing our attacking strategy. Just because tippy tappy worked twice last season from a billion attempts and looks good, doesn't mean there aren't other ways to score.
Other points:
- Enough of this 4-1-4-1. Just bench Wilshere already. Don't care if it "kills his confidence".
- Play Ozil in the middle.
- Play Cazorla in the middle.
- Direct fast pace men on the flanks (Ox, Walcott, Sanchez, Campbell, maybe Podolski).
- Stop trying to play out from the keeper. One of these days we are going to concede.
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Sina wrote:http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/england/premier-league/everton-vs-arsenal-2
Thanks for that.
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So, here we go then. A whopping 19 screenshots here, hence I've wrapped them in spoiler tags to prevent this post from being stupidly long. Apologies for the annoying giant black boxes.
Three common things I observed:
1) lack of numbers and movement in the penalty area
2) poor decision making
3) Monreal made excellent overlapping runs
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This is only five minutes into the game. Everton had started brightly and Arsenal were just feeling their way into the game. The ball was worked out to the right hand side, is picked up by Chamberlain and he laid it off to Debuchy.
Chamberlain then set off into the vast space in front of him, anticipating that Debuchy will return the ball to him. And who could blame him? It's an easy pass for Debuchy, and if Chamberlain is played in there, the Everton defender has to come across to meet him, which would've left Alexis open for a pass. Alternatively, if the Everton defender chooses to stay with his man, Chamberlain can have a shot.
But what happens?
Debuchy made the wrong decision in playing the ball down the line. Chamberlain does get on the end of the pass, but from that position he can't produce a good cross, and if he does, Alexis is not going to win the ball against Distin and Jagielka.
This was more poor execution than decision making, but if Ramsey had succeeded in playing in Monreal there, the Spaniard would've been in a great position.
Chamberlain was running at the Everton defence and Ozil made a move in front of him. There, he could've played it ahead of him for him to run onto, or to his feet. He does neither, instead choosing to blast it into the crowd.
As an aside, look at how vacant the left hand side is. Ozil had vacated that area with his run, but if someone busted a gut to get into that space, Arsenal would've been in business.
Another pass not made. Jack Wilshere gets the ball in a great position. Alexis was being played onside by Baines. All Wilshere had to do was slide the ball into the space between Everton's backline and keeper and Alexis would've been in. What does he do instead? Pass it sideways to Debuchy. Wilshere doesn't even wait for the left back to come towards him so Debuchy could move in behind.
The attack continues and it falls to Ramsey on the edge of the penalty area. He tried an audacious flick into the box which, had in come off, I would no doubt be wanking over it. I can't fault him for trying things like that. Still, Monreal had taken up an excellent position on the left, and there were numbers in the box to potentially get on the end of a cross. Ramsey himself could've then attacked the box late.
Monreal receives it on the left, but who's in the Arsenal box? One player.
This was straight after Everton's first goal. Monreal again. His targets? Nobody. He has to play the ball backwards.
The move continued with Wilshere. He looked up and saw... not a lot. So he played it to Ozil, and they try and one-two that's snuffed out by the numerous Everton defenders.
Alexis' position was interesting. Ramsey could've played the ball forward there into Alexis' feet, and from there he could've found Wilshere, who had made a run forward and could've gotten in between Coleman and Jagielka, who were too far apart. Instead, Ramsey played the simple pass to Ozil. I wonder if it would've been different had it been Giroud in Alexis' position.
Ozil gets the ball, but instead of playing the ball out to Monreal, who had lots of space on the left, he went back inside where the congestion was. The attack broke down.
Debuchy was in an excellent crossing position, but count the number of Arsenal players in the penalty area...
Monreal again takes up an excellent position. Numbers in the box? Zero.
Thought this neatly highlighted what we miss with Giroud. He could've won that head and continued the attack. Alexis has no chance.
Great crossing position for Monreal, but, surprise surprise, he had nothing to aim for. So head to play it backwards again.
Ramsey on the ball now. He looked up, saw Wilshere in the box, played a simple pass instead. Who can blame him? If Giroud was there, he may have had a target to hit.
The ball went out to Monreal yet again. This time there are two players, Wilshere and Alexis, in the box, but look at their body positions and movement. Ideally, Wilshere should've been making a run towards the near post in front of Distin, while Alexis should've been going to the back post behind Baines. Instead, both stood still wanting the ball to feet. Unsurprisingly, nothing came from this.
To wrap this up, this was the moment that had me yelling at the TV like a moron. Chamberlain was in a great position, and Ozil had so much room on the left. So where does Chamberlain play the ball? Forwards, to Alexis, who was making a good run to take away the defender.
Ozil's reaction was...
Yeah, can't say I blame him.
If people want me to, I could do the second half as well.
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1. ozil needs to man up or fk off!
2. play 4-2-3-1 instead of 4-1-4-1.
3. it wasn't sanchez fault we conceded 2 goals, and it wasn't his fault we were shit in attack too.
4. Giroud changed the game but he is still a donkey.
5. Ramsey need to be reminded to simplify and clean his game up.
6. Wilshere need to be taught to simplify and clean his game up.
7. Put the kid Chambers out of his misery, its getting unfair.
8. Somebody help monreal.
9. Mert needs Kos to cover his ass.
10. Flamini should be fitted with a patch of nails permanently attached to his ass, so it always hurts when he slides into tackle.
11. Wenger needs to buy the barclays premier league 13-14 Armageddon DVD boxset, to watch last seasons games again to relive such moments as:
'wow! lukaku on the right! is that allowed?'
'wow! schurrle scored a hatrick! thats the same goal running on loop right?'
'wow! sktel beat my zonal marksmen! I am not sure i get it, did that happen twice in like 2 minutes?'
'wow! fernandinho of all people! is this tape tempered with?'
2. play 4-2-3-1 instead of 4-1-4-1.
3. it wasn't sanchez fault we conceded 2 goals, and it wasn't his fault we were shit in attack too.
4. Giroud changed the game but he is still a donkey.
5. Ramsey need to be reminded to simplify and clean his game up.
6. Wilshere need to be taught to simplify and clean his game up.
7. Put the kid Chambers out of his misery, its getting unfair.
8. Somebody help monreal.
9. Mert needs Kos to cover his ass.
10. Flamini should be fitted with a patch of nails permanently attached to his ass, so it always hurts when he slides into tackle.
11. Wenger needs to buy the barclays premier league 13-14 Armageddon DVD boxset, to watch last seasons games again to relive such moments as:
'wow! lukaku on the right! is that allowed?'
'wow! schurrle scored a hatrick! thats the same goal running on loop right?'
'wow! sktel beat my zonal marksmen! I am not sure i get it, did that happen twice in like 2 minutes?'
'wow! fernandinho of all people! is this tape tempered with?'
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Great work Jay and thanks. That Chamberlain moment once again proves that he shouldn't be playing on the right wing, if he was on the left side and Özil making the run on the right side Chamberlain would've seen that run and pass it to him, because when he receives the ball the first thing he does is look on his right side.
When you have time do the second half aswell, we need more of this in the Arsenal section.
When you have time do the second half aswell, we need more of this in the Arsenal section.
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Chris Kamara: "There's no way Lukaku can get that ball because he's behind Mertesacker, the only way he can get it is by fouling him"
Pissed me off a lot, that.
Pissed me off a lot, that.
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Part two of my analysis coming up. Key points this time:
1) Increased numbers in the box but poor delivery
2) What Giroud offers
3) The simplest route is often the best route to goal
1) Increased numbers in the box but poor delivery
2) What Giroud offers
3) The simplest route is often the best route to goal
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Giroud made an immediate impact after coming on at half-time. This was just a couple of minutes into the half. Chamberlain had three passing options: Wilshere ahead of him, Debuchy on the overlap and Giroud at the back post. In that situation, Giroud's only interested in getting in the box; he's not interested in coming short to receive the ball to feet. Chamberlain's ball was excellent, but Giroud couldn't convert. Still, it was by far their best chance of the game and it came about not by a series of passes, but by one simple clip towards the back post.
What Giroud was doing here was something Alexis wouldn't do. By occupying the centre back with his back to goal, Giroud can receive a pass and act as a springboard. In that instant, Ozil chose not to pass into Giroud's feet.
Wilshere, however, does decide to play into Giroud's feet with a good pass around the corner. Look at the amount of space between Everton's backline and midfield; both Barry and McCarthy have been sucked towards Wilshere.
Wilshere gets the ball back from Giroud and suddenly Arsenal are in a very good position. Unfortunately, Wilshere overran it, but that's the position where Arsenal tend to be their most dangerous, particularly with Walcott coming in from the right flank.
But what Giroud doesn't have is pace to get in behind, and that's evidenced here. A quicker player likely makes a run towards the near post, but Giroud holds his position, and Ramsey has to try and lob the ball into him. The ball gets cleared.
Arsenal come again, but Ramsey makes the wrong decision. Arsenal set-up well here, with Monreal and Chamberlain stretching the play on both sides in great positions to receive the ball. Instead, Ramsey has a shot a goal, which is blocked and the attack breaks down.
The biggest strength of Giroud's play is, well, his strength. At that point, he controlled a simple clearance for Debuchy, fended off Barry and McCarthy and won his team a free-kick. From that free-kick, Arsenal instigate another attack.
From that attack, Debuchy gets in down the right hand side. Look at the numbers in the Everton penalty area. Arsenal actually had an overload at the back post and would've had have a great chance had Debuchy managed to get the ball over there. His cross was blocked and we won a corner instead.
Here again, Arsenal had two players in the box, both making runs. Ozil had the option to clip the ball into the box, but chose to play the simple sideways pass instead. Opportunity missed, perhaps.
From that, Arsenal attempt to play a one-two in the box and the attack breaks down. Passing up the simple route meant taking the more complicated one, and nothing came from it.
The ball came out to Ozil on the left and that time, he did take the simplest route: putting it into the box. Arsenal had numbers in there, but Ozil's cross was overhit. Better delivery and a chance could've been made; make note of Giroud's run, as that's the run that gets Arsenal a point, in the end.
Also, Ozil could've slid the ball into Monreal there, too. Another example of Monreal's excellent runs in this game.
Four Arsenal players in the Everton box this time, but Debuchy's cross ends up going behind all of them. Again, better delivery, better chances.
Another great crossing position, again with numbers in the box. Again, delivery isn't good enough.
Ramsey's decision making let himself down again. Monreal, again, made a great run, but Ramsey opted to have another shot at goal instead of playing him in.
This is the first goal. Arsenal have nobody in the box, but Ramsey starts to make a move towards the back post. Cazorla enters the box, helped by Everton standing off him.
Cazorla produces a quality pass across the six yard box, and lo and behold, it finds the runner into the box and Arsenal score. Easy, isn't it?
Now for the equaliser. Giroud makes his move into the penalty area and Ramsey spots him. His cross is way over hit, but it falls to Monreal. What does Monreal do?
He doesn't fuss around. He just puts in a quality cross, right onto Giroud's forehead. Notice how Giroud is in a position he took up numerous times during the half. Makes you wonder whether Arsenal could've scored earlier had their delivery in the box been better.
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Yeah but at the same time Giroud handballed in our box so that even out
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No he didnt. it hit his chest.Twoism wrote:Yeah but at the same time Giroud handballed in our box so that even out
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