La Liga 2014/15 Discussion

Harmonica wrote:And the corruption continues:

Refereeing decisions of La Liga 14-15

Round 13
Suarez onside goal wrongfully disallowed. (at 0-0)

Spoiler:

Round 14
Cronaldo gets a penalty from a obvious dive (at 0-0)
Neymar doesn't get from much harder challenge (at 1-1).

Spoiler:

Round 15
Barcelona doesn't get penalty from most obvious handball ever (at 0-0)

Spoiler:

Round 17
Real Madrid gets penalty from close handball (at 0-0)
Barcelona doesn't get penalty from a much more obvious handball (at 1-0 behind)

Spoiler:

Background for these decisions

Iturralde (retired Spanish ref) - "Most Spanish referees are Real Madrid fans"

Presidents of Real Madrid and RFEF, Florentino Perez and Angel Maria Villar are good friends, and since Perez were chosen Real Madrid president:

Penalties given in Champions League (09-15)
9 Messi
8 Cronaldo

Penalties given in La Liga (09-15)
47 Cronaldo
28 Messi

The disparity of penalties given is huge, and it cannot be explained by tactics, nor rules changes, because only other team is benefiting of them. So what is the logical explanation to this?

Har

Harmonica wrote:
Penalties given in Champions League (09-15)
9 Messi
8 Cronaldo

Penalties given in La Liga (09-15)
47 Cronaldo
28 Messi

The disparity of penalties given is huge, and it cannot be explained by tactics, nor rules changes, because only other team is benefiting of them. So what is the logical explanation to this?

harmonica, you know I'm with you, but there is one decisive point in your argument I'd like you to clarify and expand upon, in order to make your case even more convincing:

On what basis can you say a disparity between different numbers of penalties given is not 'explainable' (you mean 'expected' I assume), or 'outside the margin of error'?

Because that would require there to be an expected number of penalties every team gets per game/season. On what would we base such a typical average, from which we could say there's a 'margin of error'?

Penalties depend on a certain occurrence, a foul in the box, and it is by no means a law of nature those should
occur with a fixed regularity from which an average expectation could be extracted

pls explain, I'd like to understand

Luis  Enrique is a shocking manager , the manager with IPAD on bench
Totti hated him.
He was capable to get scrub teams with that very good team as that Roma, being raped by Lecce and Atalanta etc Now he manages the Barca with Messi , Neymar and Suarez after 2 years. The football is strange. But it is expecially unjust.
Guardiola wasn't great because he was Catalan , but because he was Guardiola. No chances for Lucho to be close to him   . I hope Barca will change him soon
Expecially because it's so sad to watch this Suarez. Who saw him last year it knows how much was special ,not just great, but special . You could watch  him 90 minutes and not be tired of it ffs

Just read his had 23 different starting XI's in 23 games..... wtf

Robespierre wrote: I hope Barca will change him soon
ffs

lol no chance of this happening. Gone from one Barca B coach to another other then Tata. Management think they can find another pep within their walls.

Crap coach.period.

The Bite Part 4: In La Liga coming soon starring Luis Suarez

Get lost robes, Enrique is from catalonia plays with the lamasia graduates and keeps the ball. Thats enough to put a smile on Xavi's face. So he should stay and manage to drop points whenever we do

Iniesta loses the ball alot these days. He was a turnover machine yesterday.

Hope next week ends in a boring 0-0 draw

http://www.cope.es/detalle/Enfado-monumental-de-Messi-con-Luis-Enrique-al-que-culpa-de-la-deriva-del-equipo.html

Messi saying shit about Lucho. The little dictator is getting his ass out of this team asap

Is it just me or does barca struggle to score a goal anytime neymar doesnt start a game? Villareal, bilbao, almeria, getafe, sociedad?

Messi. Lol

Good to see Valencia performing again

Still shouldn't have SOLDado

stop blaming lucho

http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2015/01/05/7668912/moyes-i-knew-messi-would-be-rested?ICID=HP_BN_2


moyes knew, and had it all in his book and pocket

Just out of curiosity, La Liga just had 2 weeks off, why did Messi and Neymar both need resting?

Red Alert wrote:Just out of curiosity, La Liga just had 2 weeks off, why did Messi and Neymar both need resting?

asked the same thing lol

Red Alert wrote:Just read his had 23 different starting XI's in 23 games..... wtf

25 in 25

Robespierre wrote:Luis  Enrique is a shocking manager , the manager with IPAD on bench

Does he really have an iPad on the bench? For what, googling 'football tactics'?

skypes with pep from what i've heard

Art Morte wrote:

Robespierre wrote:Luis  Enrique is a shocking manager , the manager with IPAD on bench

Does he really have an iPad on the bench? For what, googling 'football tactics'?

He plays top 11

messi didnt show up for training today here we go

hopefully messi puts lucho back in his place

He and Messi had a discussion earlier - Lucho benched him, and Messi doesnt approve. Didnt go to the after-game hospital check and didnt go to training. Showing Lucho who is boss.

MaraVilla wrote:skypes with pep from what i've heard

"Hey, Pep, how you doing?"

"Not bad, having a beer and a bratwurst and watching Thiago wear his tightest pair of lederhosen. You?"

"I'm at a match here, we're playing against the mighty David Moyes, actually... I was wondering if you had any tips, you played his ManU side in the CL last season, right?"

"Oh, yes. Well, I realize Real Sociedad are a better team and club than ManU have ever been, but surely they have nothing on your forward line, I mean, damn, Messi, Suarez and Neymar in one team. Just let them work their magic, Luis."

"But I left Messi and Neymar on the bench."

*sound of someone choking on a bratwurst*

"Pep! Pep, are you okay?"

"You... *cough* You left Messi and Neymar on the bench? After a two week break? At a ground where Barca haven't won in years anyway? Please, Luis, tell that at least Xavi and Iniesta are playing?"

"Umm, yes they are, Pep... I was actually wondering, how did you coach them, I don't think they're doing quite as g..."

"Oh, don't worry, Luis, Xavi and Iniesta in midfield will make any forward look world-class, they did that even with Pedro *breaks into laughter* ... Too bad he's been found out ages ago and you cannot use him any longer, though."

"Umm, yes, err..."

"Anyway, it was nice talking to you, Luis, and good luck with the game, but Lahm's here and we're going to kick it up a notch, got to go. Talk to you later!"

"... Well, maybe I can at least get some hair care tips from David after the game."

Some rumours about Zubi being sacked.

http://www.fcbarcelona.es/futbol/primer-equipo/detalle/noticia/el-fc-barcelona-rescinde-el-contrato-de-andoni-zubizarreta-como-director-de-futbol

It's true.

Lmao this drama.

Zubizarreta sacked.

Messi vs Enrique

Current Barca board vs fans

Today is a good day