Forza wrote:Robben is a great talent, but he is an impostor of a sportsman.

He cuts into the box at pace, waits for the defender to put the tackle in, gets slight contact, Robben's legs go up in the air, the back arches, he looks a mile ahead and lines up his hands in front of his eyes and executes a perfect forward 1 1/2 somersault pike dive. Splash! Straight into the swimming pool. Judges scores: 10, 10, and 10! Robben wins the mens diving Olympic Gold medal in Brazil two years early!

Madvillain wrote:I don't really want to go into a lot but I do want to say that the heat (38.9 Celsius) got to them. So to the guy asking why there were drinking stops, that's why. Mexico clearly wasn't as affected by this.

About Robben diving. There were three incidents in the box with Robben. First one was in the first half. That was clearly a penalty. The Mexico coach saying that Robben was diving in all three accounts makes himself look like a retard since Moreno walked (or should I say limped) away from that foul with a broken bone. Second situation was a dive. Robben even said so himself after the game. He said he shouldn't have done that and he apologized. Then the third one. It was exaggeration but there was light contact. It was open to the discretion of the ref. Seeing as there should've been given a penalty in the first half, I don't think it's really worth going on a tantrum saying it was a dive. Just deal with it.

Lastly, about that 'kick to the head' from Vlaar. A Mexico defender did the exact same thing on the other side against Van Persie. So whatever anyone is trying to say with bringing that up, just let it be. There's nothing there.


Really hope De Jong is back for the semi's if we get there. He is immensely important to this team.

Footyfan wrote:

Forza wrote:Robben is a great talent, but he is an impostor of a sportsman.

He cuts into the box at pace, waits for the defender to put the tackle in, gets slight contact, Robben's legs go up in the air, the back arches, he looks a mile ahead and lines up his hands in front of his eyes and executes a perfect forward 1 1/2 somersault pike dive. Splash! Straight into the swimming pool. Judges scores: 10, 10, and 10! Robben wins the mens diving Olympic Gold medal in Brazil two years early!

Yes. When he twice dived over lunges to shoot when he could have fallen and taken a PK, it showed your point.

This is why Goal gets so much stick for having d**b users making stupid comments

Forza wrote:

Footyfan wrote:

Forza wrote:Robben is a great talent, but he is an impostor of a sportsman.

He cuts into the box at pace, waits for the defender to put the tackle in, gets slight contact, Robben's legs go up in the air, the back arches, he looks a mile ahead and lines up his hands in front of his eyes and executes a perfect forward 1 1/2 somersault pike dive. Splash! Straight into the swimming pool. Judges scores: 10, 10, and 10! Robben wins the mens diving Olympic Gold medal in Brazil two years early!

Yes. When he twice dived over lunges to shoot when he could have fallen and taken a PK, it showed your point.

This is why Goal gets so much stick for having d**b users making stupid comments

Firstly, your comment is so incoherent it doesn't warrant a response. Nevertheless, I get the gist of what you are saying. That is (and correct me if I am mistaken) you disagree with my opinion. Noted.

You will soon notice, if you haven't already, that on this forum an excellent explanation of the grounds upon which you disagree is what will earn the respect of others, not childish name calling -- which is ironically the sort of stuff commonly found on goal.com articles.

Back on point, I shall restate my opinion so as to give you another chance to respond: Robben enters into the box always looking for the penalty, he goes down far too easily when he receives slight contact and this constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct.

If you have something constructive to add this discussion, by all means, feel free to contribute in an intelligent way.

Madvillain wrote:Sorry if I didn't fully hear every word correctly when listening to someone speak on a television in a crowded bar. Cool it down with the liar calling brah. I've listened to it again and he says "in de eerste helft daarvoor" which I didn't pick up the first time I heard the interview. I'm going to have to rewatch the first half as I don't remember him diving at all before the Moreno tackle. Maybe I was out taking a piss when that happened.

Footyfan wrote:I'm freaking tired of Mexican fans storming every forum with their conspiracy theories when Oranje were given 2 Bad PK's and denied many others including 2 more in the last match. And Neutrals are having fun regarding it.

Footyfan wrote:

Forza wrote:

Footyfan wrote:

Yes. When he twice dived over lunges to shoot when he could have fallen and taken a PK, it showed your point.

This is why Goal gets so much stick for having d**b users making stupid comments

Firstly, your comment is so incoherent it doesn't warrant a response. Nevertheless, I get the gist of what you are saying. That is (and correct me if I am mistaken) you disagree with my opinion. Noted.

You will soon notice, if you haven't already, that on this forum an excellent explanation of the grounds upon which you disagree is what will earn the respect of others, not childish name calling -- which is ironically the sort of stuff commonly found on goal.com articles.

Back on point, I shall restate my opinion so as to give you another chance to respond: Robben enters into the box always looking for the penalty, he goes down far too easily when he receives slight contact and this constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct.

If you have something constructive to add this discussion, by all means, feel free to contribute in an intelligent way.

Did you expect a dignified response to that stupid comment. I liked your latest response which although has no factual basis and far from the truth, actually is put beautifully to mine which although logical was somewhat of a rant. Well played.

You're reaction would have been justified had be not been hacked mercilessly in the 1st half when the tackle injured the tackler. A Double illegitimate tackle inside the PK, a wrestling Russian Leg Sweep move in the 2nd half, both legitimate PK denied.

And after that when the Mexican defender slid into a flying tackle nowhere near the ball, Robben had the chance to take the hit and go down. But he jumped over and went on.

The PK last one was a clear foul anyways.

Spoiler:

Footyfan wrote:

Madvillain wrote:Sorry if I didn't fully hear every word correctly when listening to someone speak on a television in a crowded bar. Cool it down with the liar calling brah. I've listened to it again and he says "in de eerste helft daarvoor" which I didn't pick up the first time I heard the interview. I'm going to have to rewatch the first half as I don't remember him diving at all before the Moreno tackle. Maybe I was out taking a piss when that happened.

I'm freaking tired of Mexican fans storming every forum with their conspiracy theories when Oranje were given 2 Bad PK's and denied many others including 2 more in the last match. And Neutrals are having fun regarding it.

El Cujo wrote:I think it's worth noting that Mexico was probably tired. They came out hard and were tired the later the game wore on. It seems like the Dutch try to conserve their energy for the end of the game in each of their encounters so far. If you watch all of their games they seem to be able to press and attack much more than the teams that they've been facing as the game comes to a close. Intentional? Hard to say, but it's starting to look that way.