Fairly sure if there was an exception, I would have used it on more than one occasion

At this point I'd like to send my deepest condolences to all Milan fans.

I actually wanted MVG to go to Milan on loan. Torres on the other hand..

I'm fairly confident MVG will arrive regardless of whether Torres comes or not. Loan with option to buy, I think.

In other good news...

Zaccardo could be on his way back to Parma.
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/news/milan-per-zaccardo-viva-la-pista-parma-la-situazione/

Apparently his agent said he rejected it, Forza.

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2014/8/27/6074769/marco-van-ginkel-rejects-ac-milan-loan-transfer-news-chelsea-fc

Is that a reliable site?

Yes, WAGNH only posts things they believe are true.

While it is only a report, I am inclined to believe it.

Dante wrote:The quiet stretched and stretched, until finally Kick said, "How mad were you when they banned you from GL after Torres' transfer to Milan?"
"Why, no madder than the rest of the Milan section ," Dante replied. "Too sad to rage hard, in truth, but my brothers were all raging, and I would not be left behind. Dostoevsky said I could be banned temporarily, though Dosto was no Admin, only a moderator armed with super moderator powers he’d stolen from RealGunner. He got banned on the announcement, and never posted in the official Torres to Milan thread. It was madness did for him, and for my brother El Shaarawy. Forza got banned by McLewis after reading Torres signed for 6 years on 5m wages that made him rage to no end, and his friend M99 was banned by RedOranje for openly trying to organise Galliani's assasination with the remaining Milan fans."
"The Milan Management Circus Show ?" asked Casciavit.
"So they called it, though I never got the management part, nor saw a show. It was a Circus, though. That it was."

Also in light of MVG rejecting us, I can confirm that he is a scrub.

I actually think MVG would do fantastically for Milan. He'll barely play with us tbh, which is a shame.

Kick wrote:

I actually think MVG would do fantastically for Milan. He'll barely play with us tbh, which is a shame.

yea me too i thought he would have been perfect b2b player for us.. kid is so energetic and the way he contributes both in defense and attack is incredible. just reminds me of koeman playing in midfield who had so much control in defense and offense.

yea he will barely play for Chelsea for sure... and thats why chelsea just wanted him on just loan deal because i think they do value the kid but then he said no to us..

would have been huge benefit for himself and for us and kid had everything to gain for by playing often at milan.


but i would understand if he finds milan not serie a not competitive enough or maybe he is trying to earn his place at chelsea which i doubt he will be regular for now... in time yes but not now..

expect torres to have another goal drought at milan..... if in EPL which is known for so open game and yet he struggles... then i dont see how he can score in serie a with players packed in defense. plus we dont have any midfielders who would create chance for him..


just reminds me when he was in liverpool and played fiorentina game, the defense was so organized he couldn't even touch a ball in that game.

i still think torres is a good player but he is really better suited to spanish football and he should have gone back to atletico!! atletico is by no means a small club anymore!! they have fantastic players and fantastic coach right now... perhaps the best time for him to ever join

Kick wrote:

Dante wrote:The quiet stretched and stretched, until finally Kick said, "How mad were you when they banned you from GL after Torres' transfer to Milan?"
"Why, no madder than the rest of the Milan section ," Dante replied. "Too sad to rage hard, in truth, but my brothers were all raging, and I would not be left behind. Dostoevsky said I could be banned temporarily, though Dosto was no Admin, only a moderator armed with super moderator powers he’d stolen from RealGunner. He got banned on the announcement, and never posted in the official Torres to Milan thread. It was madness did for him, and for my brother El Shaarawy. Forza got banned by McLewis after reading Torres signed for 6 years on 5m wages that made him rage to no end, and his friend M99 was banned by RedOranje for openly trying to organise Galliani's assasination with the remaining Milan fans."
"The Milan Management Circus Show ?" asked Casciavit.
"So they called it, though I never got the management part, nor saw a show. It was a Circus, though. That it was."

Why am I the one interrogating?

I don't know , why Kick!?

lol honestly i have no idea , i just saw you post on Torres a page back and i put you in

the important part is how this transfer will probably be the end of us all here . lol .

In all seriousness however , i still doubt it's going to happen . Think about it this way : you're Torres , you play in a very competitive team under a great coach , you earn a great salary and with lots of games and goals set for the season , you will surely play a good amount of games.

Would you agree to sign for a team in Milan's particular state , which isn't capable of paying nearly half as well , does not participate in any of the CL or EL and on top of it all , which is more than enough , they aren't even capable of offering him a solid contract , meaning Milan wants Torres on loan . Players like Torres don't move on loan , they don't have to , it's really bad for them.

Only younger players or desperate and unstable players leave on loan and as much as Chelsea may have plans that do not deem Torres so important anymore , Torres (imo) , doesn't need to agree with such low-ball terms. Unless something drastic happens at Chelsea , something that will make him feel very uncomfortable staying there , which again i doubt , i don't see really how this will come to pass.

Torres wants to keep his earnings as much intact as possible and a solid contract , which is totally fair. Not sure if Milan is prepared to meet that . Jokes and criticism on Torres aside , he's not someone who would accept anything , despite his shortcomings or what have you.

As for MVG , i'd like to see him play for Milan but , all this incompetence both on the field and in the market , never mention our lack of e.competition.. I am not surprised he rejected us , at all. In fact , i am 100% sure too many good players have rejected us this summer alone . Joining Milan these days is quite the risk for top tier players , sadly , but it's the truth.

That we look at all these destabilised or cheap targets is no coincedence , i have been saying this even before the season ended ; without the CL , or at the very least the EL , top players or top young talents will be very hard to come by.

dostoevsky wrote:Also in light of MVG rejecting us, I can confirm that he is a scrub.

In light of unreliable reports suggesting that the rejection may not be definitive, I can confirm that he would be a worthy addition.

Also Dante, it is my great hope that Torres' wages will prove to be a significant stumbling block that prevents his acquisition, however at the same time, we seem to be pushing so hard to make this happen and have left ourselves so little time in which to pursue alternatives. We seem to have made this our only option. If we are going to wait this long now at the end of the window to give Torres a chance to lower his demands, are we really leaving ourselves time to negotiate with alternatives should the negotiations fail? The fact that we don't seem to have a realistic back-up at this point leads me to believe that we will be forced to make this work out of desperation, but on Torres' terms.

All in all, it's sickening.

dostoevsky wrote:

dostoevsky wrote:Also in light of MVG rejecting us, I can confirm that he is a scrub.

In light of unreliable reports suggesting that the rejection may not be definitive, I can confirm that he would be a worthy addition.

Also Dante, it is my great hope that Torres' wages will prove to be a significant stumbling block that prevents his acquisition, however at the same time, we seem to be pushing so hard to make this happen and have left ourselves so little time in which to pursue alternatives. We seem to have made this our only option. If we are going to wait this long now at the end of the window to give Torres a chance to lower his demands, are we really leaving ourselves time to negotiate with alternatives should the negotiations fail? The fact that we don't seem to have a realistic back-up at this point leads me to believe that we will be forced to make this work out of desperation, but on Torres' terms.

All in all, it's sickening.

Didn't really think about that. It's quite possible tbh. Darn. Not sure what to think.. Maybe i am just delusional and in denial form . Idk. There's also this guy Mitroglou we're supposedly interested , which i know quite well he's a capable striker , but off a major injury and in general lines , not in form . He's a beast on his day really , but every since last January and his injury he hasn't found form yet .

I think , however sad it may sound , that between all reported targets , ( i mean Soldado , ffs ) , Torres is really our best option
Other than that , i can't tell if they will succeed in getting him. Only a few days left let's see. I still haven't written Cerci off yet , tbh. He's leaving Torino , maybe if we can't even get Torres , we pay that much for Cerci and play Menez false 9?

That will work

To be honest, at this stage, I'd rather just put Mexes up front.

It makes sense that if we can't move our top earner along to another club, that we should utilise him rather than let him rot on the bench. He has all the necessary characteristics to succeed.

Aerial ability - Check.
Clutch finishing - Check.
Ability on the ball - Check.
Aggressive - Check.
Insane bicycle kicks - Check.

I really can't believe we're signing a washed up 30 year old.

This is why I didn't want Balo sold. We never replace our star players with anyone half as good as them.

Dat vision

Mexes for Striker 2014-2015

What hurts my mind between all of this , is the fact Liverpool confirmed they've been negotiating for months with Milan on Balotelli . All this time and we didn't get anyone , or at least some sort of agreement in stand-by to be made official after Balotelli was sold.

But no , we're looking at the last minute for whoever may be available.. The management! Totes legit

Agreed entirely Cas.

It's incredibly frustrating Dante, as you said, we've had three months to prepare for the eventuality of Balotelli leaving. It only makes sense to make no plans to replace Mario if the club were entirely adamant in their refusal to sell to Liverpool, yet then we cave so suddenly? Absolute madness.

I'm long past the Denial stage of grief but it's going to take a long time to pass the Anger stage.

Madness , yes. That is certainly the word .

Here's something to help ease the frustration .  

Spoiler:

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I'm delirious with pain. ahahahahaha

Perhaps it turns out for the best , Torres.. Who knows ? It could work..Maybe

Yeah why not .He's not so bad ..

Spoiler:

At this point GLs Milanese fan base could invest more than Berlu

Pathetic

Tbh Serie A needa dat dere oil monies. There is no long term plan in place to elevate the league it would seem. Might as well flirt with some billionaires

Tomwin Lannister wrote:At this point GLs Milanese fan base could invest more than Berlu

Pathetic

Tbh Serie A needa dat dere oil monies. There is no long term plan in place to elevate the league it would seem. Might as well flirt with some billionaires

yea but berlusconi only cares about himself, his authority and stature at club.

There has been numerous rumors that Milan will be sold but I cant see it happening under berlusconi.

for what we know he doesnt even want to sell minority of shares because his demands are so high and i doubt the stakeholders will be given any authority at board level whatsoever.

the only hope when milan will probably invest is when berlusconi dies...


galliani invested more in Giannino restaurant in Milano than in transfer market probably... or atleast i saw internet memes saying that.

My dreams come a little too late. Ronaldinho was my dream signing in 2002. Torres was my dream signing in 2006.

Our Presidente will never sell . And not because of the reasons that go public . Them being , he's personally invested and that he holds Milan too dearly and that's a family matter and what have you.

Truth is , and nobody can ever take that from him , is that he has indeed invested heavily into the club ever since he became the owner. These last years not at all as we know , but the case still stands . So ,

for him to sell to someone else , he will want to make some profit too , Milan is not bankrupt ( officially at least ) . And that's not happening , because who would give a billion or so for a football club? And that's just to be the owner , never mind further investments.

Barbara Berlusconi basically said something like this not too long ago.. can't remember where it was , but she said what's what the Berlusconis value Milan . I am lost about the details , don't quote me on this.

And knowing nobody will really cave in his extraordinary demands for Milan , he will never sell for less . It's not worth it for him to sell for less. And all of that come really easy to comprehend once you realise that , rich businessmen or sheikhs or group of sheikhs have bought football clubs nowhere near Milan's calibre in the football world. If Milan was available for a reasonable price back then when it was a thing , you can be sure one of these rich overlords would have bought Milan years ago . Someone bought Malaga ffs.  

It's just Berlusconi's demands that never allowed any of this to happen and frankly , it will always be an obstacle . It doesn't matter how much of 'image' Milan has lost or keeps losing over the years , as long as it's not bankrupt and as long as Berlusconi has absurd demands , our dear Presidente will still own Milan .

I've made my own peace with that some time ago , there's no chance Milan will be sold , unless really , really , dramatic things happen beforehand . Like bankrupty , or relegation . Berlusconi was basically sentenced to jail and he's still the owner . There's no happy ending coming from that part of Milan. Better days will only come from people like Inzaghi or some players like Ses and De Sciglio , or at least that's my hope. Reality is , Milan as we knew it is long gone and Berlusconi's stance on the matter makes things that much harder for Milan. Having said all that , i have to admit , that there's 100% of a chance that there are behind the doors info we will never know about ; things like Galliani saying " i have no hands these days " , reffering to Torino's president and his accusation of Galliani's stinky hand .

I mean , i still remember Berlusconi talking about something like the FFP in 2008 , way before it became a thing . Not sure if he was speaking about the FFP , in truth , but he was reffering to how Milan must be able to stand on their feet without him some day , something like that. I am saying that , because , no matter how much of a d*** Berlusconi has become , it's almost certain to me that things aren't that simple and he doesn't trully have the same freedom to spend as much as he used to .

And much more than that , it's quite possible Milan is playing by the rules of the FFP now . That is , not trying to look for backdoors and such , like arab owned clubs have been doing. Any way you look at it , it's just not good for Milan and us fans , sadly . Either it's pure incompetence , or restrictments , or much more likely both , that's the situation and hoping for saviour arabas to become another Berlusconi isn't the solution , as much as it will seem so at first. They will become another version of Berlusconi in time , in which case they will stop spending and likely leave Milan in a much worse state than they found the club .

Best case scenario for Milan would seem to be Bayern's model . Or something close to that , that is if you ask me . It took Bayern some time to get there , but boy they got there safe. And with a strong future ahead. Milan should really follow their example , because any new rich owner and strongly believe that , will only allow for history to repeat itself ; you either die hero or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain. For one reason or another , Berlusconi's path in Milan perfectly adopts this true rule. Any supposedly new rich owner , will in truth be Berlusconi with another name , just the many monei coming from elsewhere , untill one day for one reason or the other the money will stop raining. It will still lead to the same end .

Again , Bayern's model . Not saying copy paste what Bayern did , but have that as a beacon for what they hope to achieve one day. Follow it's roots , if you will. It will still be that much more succesfull than whatever this circus has been doing to Milan all these years.

M99 wrote:My dreams come a little too late. Ronaldinho was my dream signing in 2002. Torres was my dream signing in 2006.

Torres was my fave youngster in Pes back when he was at Atletico

you can see how excited i am now that he joins Milan , i am so totes excited i feel like crying