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Post by Curtinho Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:43 pm

I think even though we lost to United we took a step forward. The team sheet was still not perfect, and Lovren + Allen should be dropped, but the play itself was positive and moving back towards what Rodgers is good at. I am still patient with him. There's no one out there who will come in and do a better job right now. His man management, and his attacking style of play is very nice for us. If his only weakness is transfers then it might be prudent to keep him as manager but get someone to take over the transfer committee and such.

Just IMO. I don't forget two months ago when everyone though Rodgers was going to lead Liverpool to a long period of glory. I'm not going to flip on him that easily like some melodramatic people.

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Post by Curtinho Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:18 pm

Liverpool Echo's James Pearce one of the most trusted persons regarding LFC affairs has come out to suggest that the Transfer Committee (TC) could have made BR's work difficult at Anfield. The sale of senior players on big wages and the signings that BR made this season were not totally his choice, but the committee's. Many managers refused to work under a sporting director when they were interviewed by FSG for the job before BR came in. FSG later set up this committee that is identical, or perhaps wields more power than a sporting director, whilst giving the idea that the manager is totally in charge. Whatever decision the manager makes with regards to signings and contracts, will be voted by 5 people in the committee. Only in the case of a majority vote, BR can sign the players he wants. Otherwise he has to improvise with the players chosen by the TC. Pearce says BR NEVER wanted to sign Balotelli but was forced to settle for him. In other words, it was the TC that ultimately failed to replace Suarez despite getting big money by selling him. Pearce says BR also made it clear that he wanted Michel Vorm and that signing a GK is a priority. But he says the transfer committee refused to pay his value despite only spending over 30mil in net spending this summer. This also had a significant impact on Mignolet's form as LFC didn't try to provide competition for the Belgian. Pearce says paying top bucks for Lovren made perfect sense at that point, as he was not one for the future, but was coming in as a top centre back, based on his form with the Saints and his Premier League experience. He was bought to hit the ground running. However he's had a major dip in form which is disappointing says Pearce. Similar tone has been voiced by Mike Bernard, a former employee of FSG, who said BR failing to see eye-to-eye with some of the TC members and their signings, is getting a little unsavoury. Mike noted that BR wanted Eriksen and Bony but was overruled. This also goes back to previous failures to show the money and securing players early when they had interest to move to LFC. Plenty of dragging negotiations and low-balling saw the failure of securing targets such as Willian, Salah, Mikhtaryan, Konoplyanka and more. Diego Costa was identified by BR as a transfer target when Costa was playing as a wing-forward, long before he became a star in that out-and-out striker position and caught the whole world's attention. TC thought his release clause of 20mil back then was too much. The rest is history. While we drag our feet on targets, other clubs come into the picture, showed the money and swooped them as we watch helplessly. Even for Sanchez, Phil Thompson declared during the world cup that we had Sanchez in the bag. However too much negotiations into details and conditions in payment method allowed Arsenal to sneak in and turn his and his wife's head.

Pearce also does not believe with the popular excuse that BR got founded after Suarez left, and that it was the Uruguayan who made BR look good last season. He says BR's tactical acumen led the team prosper last season, not Suarez alone. The expectations has been raised by last season's football and LFC are struggling with the pressure now he adds. Pearce labels Borini's position as strange and wonders if it could be the club showing frustration against him, for not being able to secure 14mil from Sunderland and another 13mil from QPR. They're certainly making it clear to Borini that he shouldn't reject another deal in January. Another journo Graham Beecroft says Borini could have indicated that he rather sit on the bench and take the wages or run down his contract, than moving to a small club ie Sunderland, QPR who are also refusing to pay more wages than LFC. Could be the reason why he's strangely frozen. Could be the club's decision not the manager's.

The last time Pearce spoke to BR, the manager said Can and some of the new players are still trying to adapt to his philosophy of football and it could be the reason why BR resorts to playing those who know what is expected of them for now. But Pearce says he will speak to BR again about Can to find out more on his position. Pearce says LFC's season could depend on Sturridge coming back to be paired with Balotelli upfront, and then allow the rest of the team to click. Pearce doesn't know if FSG are willing to spend in January but it's a question of can they afford not to. As champions league new TV deal brings in over 40mil next season compared to 25mil before, he opines that LFC must spend. Especially on a top quality striker, taking into account Studge's fitness.

The audio of the interview is here

https://soundcloud.com/anfieldhq/james-pearce-corrected

Regarding Liverpool transfers.
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Post by Art Morte Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:48 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:thw worst things will start happening once he loses the dressing room, the episode is yet to come !!


The first rumours of that starting to happen have emerged hmm

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/16/brendan-rodgers-liverpool-dressing-room-unrest

Speaking at his pre-Bournemouth press conference on Tuesday, Rodgers confirmed there is discontent within the Liverpool squad but only as a consequence of the team’s dramatic downturn in results this season. He denied presiding over a squad divided by unrest.

“Our dressing room is very strong,” said Rodgers. “We are very fortunate to have a captain who is a strong leader in dressing room and that has been very important during my time here. Unrest is totally untrue. Of course we are unhappy at not winning games, these are competitive players who almost won the league last year and they won’t be happy at losing because they are competitive people. Our spirit is very strong and, once we get that break, we will show that.”

I'm pretty sure that at least Borini and Sakho aren't that fond of Rodgers right now. Then again, our players are mostly "nice guys" who I don't see causing that much trouble.


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Post by Red Alert Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:20 am

Next England manager. :bow: please.

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Post by RED Sat May 02, 2015 1:45 pm

Liverpool fans organized this banner to be flown over Anfield today Laughing

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All gone a bit Moyes-esque for them this season Smile
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Post by jibers Sat May 02, 2015 2:22 pm

RED wrote:Liverpool fans organized this banner to be flown over Anfield today Laughing

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All gone a bit Moyes-esque for them this season Smile


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How times have changed Smile
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Post by Unique Sat May 02, 2015 2:43 pm

i see the man u fans are out now thay are in the top 4. thay were a pack of mice last season. Wink
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Post by futbol Sat May 02, 2015 2:57 pm

Surely that's organized by United fans to WUM Liverpool.

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Post by Unique Sat May 02, 2015 2:58 pm

Red Alert wrote:Also, this is a man that picked Luis ALberto over Christian Eriksen. Just let that settle in regarding his knowledge of players/transfers. rofl
that is not true. eriksen was a target for Liverpool be went to spurs instead.
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Post by Unique Sat May 02, 2015 3:00 pm

FuĂźball wrote:Surely that's organized by United fans to WUM Liverpool.
that's true. but it shows you what kind of fans they have. they come on and dish it out when man u are winning. then run and hide like a pack of 12yo girls when they don't. they are whats known as fair weather fans. Wink
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Post by RealGunner Sat May 02, 2015 3:18 pm

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Post by Unique Sat May 02, 2015 3:53 pm

RealGunner wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEAXr5qWYAAawGG.jpg

I bet it was a bunch of dumb man u fans that wasted money on doing that.
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Post by Red Alert Sun May 03, 2015 3:11 am

Well kudos to them if true, where can I pay them by cut?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 14, 2015 10:15 pm

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Rodgers IN.
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Post by Red Alert Thu May 14, 2015 11:06 pm

Go back one page hmm
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Post by McAgger Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:23 am

@TonyBarretTimes
Ilori's imminent departure means 13 of the 24 players Liverpool signed from 2012-14 have either left the club permanently or are on loan.

Main man Nick called it a long time ago. Rodgers and especially Liverpool for the past however many years just throws a bunch shit at the wall hoping some would stick. I honestly can't express to you enough how badly our club is run. Everyone associated with the club is either mediocre or has mediocre mentality. *bleep* give our financial muscle power to Dortmund, Atletico, Sevilla, Porto and they would be competing with Barca, Bayern, Madrid every year.
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Post by Red Alert Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:29 am

He called it 18 months after I did genius. rofl

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Post by Unique Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:06 pm

Don't call me James wrote:@TonyBarretTimes
Ilori's imminent departure means 13 of the 24 players Liverpool signed from 2012-14 have either left the club permanently or are on loan.

Main man Nick called it a long time ago. Rodgers and especially Liverpool for the past however many years just throws a bunch shit at the wall hoping some would stick. I honestly can't express to you enough how badly our club is run. Everyone associated with the club is either mediocre or has mediocre mentality. *bleep* give our financial muscle power to Dortmund, Atletico, Sevilla, Porto and they would be competing with Barca, Bayern, Madrid every year.
im not trying to stick up for rodgers here but the market liverpool have to shop in is the hardest of the lot. i mean its not hard to get transfers right when you can go out and get any player you want. it dont take a well run club or a great manager to know if you buy players like sanchez.suarez. ronaldo...they will do well for you.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:42 pm

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Post by Unique Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:49 pm

RealGunner wrote:bump for unique
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Post by Unique Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:53 pm

2 things i found with football. 1 you can have a good team and a bad manager and get results. 2 you can have a good manager and a bad team and get results. liverpool dont have any. Laughing Laughing
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Post by Red Alert Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:19 am

FSG can go with him too.
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Post by Helmer Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:22 am

Just two more games, if he loses any one, he should be sacked otherwise he has bought some more time for himself !

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Post by McAgger Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:39 am

Why Heil? Why 2 more games? I don't get it. All of a sudden he'll be viewed as some sort of a better manger if he wins the next 2 matches.

We play Norwich and some other shitty team. Why would those 2 matches change anything? It's very much likely we could possibly win both but will that really change anything? Another *bleep* season of transition to be written off.
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Post by windkick Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:03 am

They should seriously consider giving him the sack. Some good free agent managers out there...
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:00 am

Why let him stay in summer and sack him NOW though?

They're only 2 points away from top 4.
They lost at Old Trafford last season too so that can't be a deal breaker.
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