Re: 2014 Brazil World Cup Group Stage Draw Discussion

by El Gunner Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:00 pm

McAgger wrote:Costa Rica to win it vagi

That would be so... Laughing

by Gil Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:01 pm

I'm not saying Belgium are all that but they could build some momentum leading into the knockout rounds with that piss easy group.

Hazard, Lukaku & De Bruyne are all obviously key to that. Hazard especially, it would be the perfect stage to announce his name to the World if he hasn't done already.

The likes of Neymar, Messi & Ronaldo are going to have some fun in Brazil. Messi especially, expect him to break the group stage goals record.

by McAgger Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:01 pm

People overrate passion at the world cup. Chile will have grit etc, etc. That's crap. Every team will play with grit. This is the f*cking world cup ffs. Quality is always the difference here.

by halamadrid2 Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:02 pm

If VDB is stubborn and plays Arbeloa, Pique, Xavi and Cesc Spain will get nowhere. This is the perfect time to introduce the new guys. They are very lucky Negredo is doing very well atm or else they would've been in massive trouble (still some time left though so anything can happen)

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:02 pm

McAgger wrote:Chile are super overrated for me. Sanchez washing cars as a kid won't help him here.

Still finished above your precious Uruguay in qualifying..... anyway who rates them lol?

Uruguay on the other hand is this godly team because they have Suarez.... they really are not, if they were as good as people describe them as they wouldn't have finished 5th in qualifying and that is without Brazil Laughing

by M99 Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:03 pm

Gil what do you expect Belgium's starting line up to be?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:03 pm

Gil wrote:I'm not saying Belgium are all that but they could build some momentum leading into the knockout rounds with that piss easy group.

Hazard, Lukaku & De Bruyne are all obviously key to that. Hazard especially, it would be the perfect stage to announce his name to the World if he hasn't done already.

The likes of Neymar, Messi & Ronaldo are going to have some fun in Brazil. Messi especially, expect him to break the group stage goals record.

Momentum is not going to mean much when they face Germany in the 2nd round lol.

My prediction of them not getting past the 2nd round is looking good :bow:

by McAgger Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:04 pm

Russia will top Belgium's group. I promise you that.

by M99 Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:04 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:If VDB is stubborn and plays Arbeloa, Pique, Xavi and Cesc Spain will get nowhere. This is the perfect time to introduce the new guys. They are very lucky Negredo is doing very well atm or else they would've been in massive trouble (still some time left though so anything can happen)

Don't think Negredo will start. Diego Costa got the CF spot locked on.

by sportsczy Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:05 pm

Overrate passion at a WC? R U SERIOUS??

Chile are a tough team. We played them in a friendly and they play nice + tough footy. Very well organized.

by Zealous Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:06 pm

Save your predictions lads. We have no idea what type of form these teams will be in by the time the world cup rolls along.

Keep in mind the travel/weather is a huuuuuuuge factor this time. Especially in tight groups.

by Gil Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:07 pm

M99 wrote:Gil what do you expect Belgium's starting line up to be?

Courtois
Alderweireld Kompany Vermaelen Vertonghen
Witsel
Dembele Fellaini
De Bruyne Lukaku Hazard

No fullbacks, no goals in midfield and apparently they play Germany or Portugal in the QF's depending on their draw. Yeah they're *bleep*.

by halamadrid2 Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:07 pm

M99 wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:If VDB is stubborn and plays Arbeloa, Pique, Xavi and Cesc Spain will get nowhere. This is the perfect time to introduce the new guys. They are very lucky Negredo is doing very well atm or else they would've been in massive trouble (still some time left though so anything can happen)
Don't think Negredo will start. Diego Costa got the CF spot locked on.

Diego Costa hasn't even had an appearance yet for Spain. Besides Negredo is alot more complete than him and generally better at adapting to other formations and styles

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:08 pm

sportsczy wrote:Overrate passion at a WC? R U SERIOUS??

Chile are a tough team. We played them in a friendly and they play nice + tough footy. Very well organized.

People seem to be ignoring this.... Chile are not only a great team ( i emphasis the word team) but they are very organised as well as being young and fit.

Their problem is they always choke at some point and they will lol.

by El Gunner Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:08 pm

Gil wrote:They had to qualify for this tourney through the playoffs and they were pretty poor in the Confed Cup. They're on the decline ffs.

I think if the likes of Morrison, Barkley, Sturridge & Townsend continue to progress over the next couple of months leading into the WC we could potentially spring a surprise.

The form and fitness of Gerrard, Carrick, Rooney, Hart and Baines are also key. We HAVE to recall Terry though. It's obvious to anyone Cahill, Smalling, Jones and Jagielka aren't good enough.

Hasn't this been done before?

England have the quality players, but they just don't get it right as a team.

by Zealous Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:09 pm

sportsczy wrote:Overrate passion at a WC? R U SERIOUS??

Seconded. The teams who want it more usually get something or at least come close. Tournament football is a different animal, forget what you think you know about the game.

If this were two legged games like the CL then yeah, the Cream of the crop usually avoid slip ups. One off games however, they don't tend to go smoothly at least not for the teams that are not truly elite.

by Gil Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:09 pm

Yeah people forget injuries always seemingly happen before every big tournament. Just hoping it isn't any "superstar".

Don't want entertainers like Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Hazard missing the biggest spectacle in sports.

by McAgger Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:10 pm

sportsczy wrote:Overrate passion at a WC? R U SERIOUS??

Chile are a tough team. We played them in a friendly and they play nice + tough footy. Very well organized.

Almost every player plays with passion at the world cup ffs. It's the grandest competition they could ever play in ffs. Ii's every players dream to be there. At the end of the day quality is what makes the difference.

by halamadrid2 Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:11 pm

Why is Hazard mentioned in the same bracket as the others???? due to his game against Sunderland? ?

by McAgger Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:12 pm

Zealous wrote:
sportsczy wrote:Overrate passion at a WC? R U SERIOUS??
Seconded. The teams who want it more usually get something or at least come close. Tournament football is a different animal, forget what you think you know about the game.

If this were two legged games like the CL then yeah, the Cream of the crop usually avoid slip ups. One off games however, they don't tend to go smoothly at least not for the teams that are not truly elite.

I'm sorry but there is absolutely no complacency at the WC. Unless you are just having an utter shit day, the better teams with the better players progress.

by Gil Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:12 pm

El Gunner wrote:
Gil wrote:They had to qualify for this tourney through the playoffs and they were pretty poor in the Confed Cup. They're on the decline ffs.

I think if the likes of Morrison, Barkley, Sturridge & Townsend continue to progress over the next couple of months leading into the WC we could potentially spring a surprise.

The form and fitness of Gerrard, Carrick, Rooney, Hart and Baines are also key. We HAVE to recall Terry though. It's obvious to anyone Cahill, Smalling, Jones and Jagielka aren't good enough.

Hasn't this been done before?

England have the quality players, but they just don't get it right as a team.

Read the post again. I'm not saying we're going to win the damn thing just that we can get past the groups.

Seems people aren't happy unless we're pessimistic about everything.

by M99 Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:12 pm

Dates of the standout fixtures.

12th June: Brazil vs Croatia
13th June: Spain vs Netherlands
14th June: England vs Italy
16th June: Germany vs Portugal
18th June: Spain vs Chilie
19th June: Uruguay vs England
22nd June: Belgium vs Russia
23rd June: Netherlands vs Chilie
24th June: Italy vs Uruguay

by Gil Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:13 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Why is Hazard mentioned in the same brackets as the others???? due to his game against Sunderland? ?

He's Belgiums best player and he's one of the most entertaining players to watch in full flight. No one has said he's as good as Messi/Ronaldo.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:14 pm

Gil i'd play Jones tbh.... he's by far our best young defender.

Jagielka and Cahill are average.

by B-Mac Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:14 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
McAgger wrote:Chile are super overrated for me. Sanchez washing cars as a kid won't help him here.
Still finished above your precious Uruguay in qualifying..... anyway who rates them lol?

Uruguay on the other hand is this godly team because they have Suarez.... they really are not, if they were as good as people describe them as they wouldn't have finished 5th in qualifying and that is without Brazil

voice of reason Proud

will be called a prem face because he's english tho Laughing

by halamadrid2 Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:15 pm

Gil wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:Why is Hazard mentioned in the same brackets as the others???? due to his game against Sunderland? ?
He's Belgiums best player and he's one of the most entertaining players to watch in full flight. No one has said he's as good as Messi/Ronaldo.

entertainer????? you mean ghosting around on the field is being entertaining???

Hazard is no more exciting to watch than Townsend ffs

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