harhar11 wrote:Patience? lol.. Iniesta now thats a player with patience. Didnt have as much playing time as thiago had at his age and played in countless of position and never complained or threatened to leave. But a player who threatened to leave when he was 19/20 years old and then left when he was 22 year old is not patient..

And who laughed at you jibers? Almost every single barca fan thinks that our management sucks..

The_Badger wrote:Cesc has shown that he's far from inferior to Thiago.

Amazing how people on here think they are better qualified judges of player quality than Pep, Tito and Del Bosque!

CBarca wrote:Not at Barcelona.

Cesc was an impressive player at Arsenal but since he's come to Barcelona he's been outshone by Thiago time and time again. Cesc getting as many minutes as he had in the midfield shows how awful the man management at Barcelona can be.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

The_Badger wrote:Cesc has shown that he's far from inferior to Thiago.

Amazing how people on here think they are better qualified judges of player quality than Pep, Tito and Del Bosque!

Did Pep and Del Bosque play Cesc in Xavi's role over Thiago? yeah that's what i thought.

You have poor reading skills, Cesc is a great player but he is not a controlling playmaker CM and cannot replace Xavi.

He's more Ozil or Kroos than Xavi, no one said Cesc is crap just crap at being Xavi.

Its also the reason why Guardiola bought Thiago as Bayern have no deep playmakers.

Why people still think Cesc can replace Xavi when he's nothing like him is beyond me, its like asking Alonso to replace Lampard at Chelsea and expect him to score 20+ like he did.

The Franchise wrote:Better judge than Pep, Tito and VDB? No, but I have eyes and I can clearly see who is a better player for us.

I assume you agree with everything, every coach decides ever? Yeah, thought not.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

CBarca wrote:Not at Barcelona.

Cesc was an impressive player at Arsenal but since he's come to Barcelona he's been outshone by Thiago time and time again. Cesc getting as many minutes as he had in the midfield shows how awful the man management at Barcelona can be.

Tbf Cesc still looks good in an advanced role even at Barca, he's just not a CM anymore its as simple as that really.

The_Badger wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Better judge than Pep, Tito and VDB? No, but I have eyes and I can clearly see who is a better player for us.

I assume you agree with everything, every coach decides ever? Yeah, thought not.

I agree that Tito, Pep and Del Bosque have forgotten more about football than you'll ever know.

Those of you crying about the management and discrediting them and their decisions need to look at what Barca have achieved in recent years. That wouldn't be possible if your management was as abysmal as some are trying to make out simply because they favoured an experience professional who actually contributes something worthwhile as opposed to a young inexperienced potentially good player who seems to believe he's better than he actually is.

The Franchise wrote:Iniesta was not treated as Thiago was. First of all, he was nowhere near the obvious talent at 20-22 than Thiago is...what grounds did Iniesta have to play over Xavi and Deco in their prime?

Thiago has genuine ground to make a claim for more minutes, especially as its pretty much universal Xavi has been overplayed and on top of that, an inferior player, Cesc, also played over him.

No inferior player played over Iniesta in those times.

CBarca wrote:Don't think he's worth the time Dani.

Wrote up a larger response but cut it because he's not likely to come back with anything worthwhile.

Talking about our success being an indicator of the current management ffs

Because everything Laporta did disappeared when he left

Tomwin Lannister wrote:I hate it when people point out that obvious fact that top level managers know more than we do.

But when you're debating something that has no definitive correct answer such as with players, of course people can disagree.


Franchise already asked the question. So do you actually agree with every coaches decision. What happens when two coaches both have different opinions. One or even both could be wrong but both know more than we do therefore they are both correct, no?

dat dilemma.

my boi badger wrote:I've taken to largely ignoring what you post because you've already been shown up to be a petulant, immature troll who can't accept a different opinion to your own.

So in future I advise you don't waste your time.

Thanks.

harhar11 wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Iniesta was not treated as Thiago was. First of all, he was nowhere near the obvious talent at 20-22 than Thiago is...what grounds did Iniesta have to play over Xavi and Deco in their prime?

Thiago has genuine ground to make a claim for more minutes, especially as its pretty much universal Xavi has been overplayed and on top of that, an inferior player, Cesc, also played over him.

No inferior player played over Iniesta in those times.

Van bommel and Edmilson started the CL final over Iniesta, even though Iniesta was probably better than them and had played a great semi against Milan. And yet Iniesta didnt complain about starting on the bench in the biggest game of his career at te time..

And its not like Thiago didnt get minutes(didnt he miss like 18 games because of injury?) nor did Barca treat him like crap(thiago himself admitted that barca did everything for him).