Re: Summer Transfer Rumours Mk.VI

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:29 pm

We did the same with Pardew it didn't make a blind bit of difference. ( there's probably more examples)

Ancelotti will do what he's always done, create teams who are dangerous on the counter and tactically excellent.

Even his fabled Milan team did not play the football you crave they were counter attack specialists.

Put it this way if Ancelotti suddenly changes what he's always done through out his career i would be shocked.

You will be the same Madrid you have been for last 5 years except maybe better tactically.

by Gil Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:29 pm

Isco, Benzema, Modric, Ronaldo & Ozil in the same lineup. Laughing

Not happening.

by Gil Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:32 pm

Where did this myth Ancelotti plays good (whatever the f**k that is anyway) football originate from by the way? He's always played counter attacking wherever he's been, he's another Mou.

Just a classier and more player friendly yet less successful version of him.

Madrid fans are a delusional bunch.

Di Maria, Arbeloa, Kaka, Alonso etc would all be content with a place on the bench for lesser players Summer Transfer Rumours Mk.VI - Page 6 Oblivious

Player unrest and power will die Summer Transfer Rumours Mk.VI - Page 6 Oblivious

We're gonna play like Brazil 1970 in a couple of months Summer Transfer Rumours Mk.VI - Page 6 Oblivious

A lineup with defensive liabilities like CR, Isco, Ozil and co would be stable and we wouldn't concede 5 every other game Summer Transfer Rumours Mk.VI - Page 6 Oblivious

Isco could play RW or DM it worked on FIFA! Summer Transfer Rumours Mk.VI - Page 6 Oblivious

Same lot that give me grief for Chelsea supposedly stockpiling talent. Laughing

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:33 pm

Gil wrote:Where did this myth Ancelotti plays good (whatever the f**k that is anyway) football originate from by the way? He's always played counter attacking wherever he's been, he's another Mou.

Just a classier and more player friendly version of him.

He's more adaptive and more well rounded tactically IMO but other than that yeah they have a lot of similarities.

by halamadrid2 Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:34 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:We did the same with Pardew it didn't make a blind bit of difference. ( there's probably more examples)

Ancelotti will do what he's always done, create teams who are dangerous on the counter and tactically excellent.

Even his fabled Milan team did not play the football you crave they were counter attack specialists.

Put it this way if Ancelotti suddenly changes what he's always done through out his career i would be shocked.

You will be the same Madrid you have been for last 5 years except maybe better tactically.

Carlo isn't as stubborn as Mou who shuts out the media when they critisize his style. Mou was fried because of his ugly football. he was booed by sections of the fans. Trust me Ancelotti will give in to demands and do as they want and perez has provided him with the players to make it possible

by Onyx Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:35 pm

Borussia Dortmund agree deal for Mkhitaryan, according to Kicker.

by Onyx Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:40 pm

Ancelotti said in his press conference:

"I want a team that controls the play, that has a nice idea of attacking football, that has good balance. I don't think it will be difficult to play offensive football with lots of possession."

by Gil Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:40 pm

What is ugly football by the way? Isn't the goal of the game to put the ball in the back of the net?

Madrid broke La Liga goalscoring records didn't they?

Just because he doesn't want to bore the fans to death with pointless and excessive back passes and Rondo's doesn't mean it's "ugly".

Stop being a spoilt brat.

by guest7 Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:40 pm

None is claiming Ancelotti has played good football, but rather he will try to do so in Madrid.

Since reading about how he adapts to the players in his disposal I don't think that's a crazy idea. It's not the same as Pardew becouse Ancelotti actually knows something about managing, while Pardew does not.

by Onyx Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:43 pm

Gil wrote:What is ugly football by the way? Isn't the goal of the game to put the ball in the back of the net?

Madrid broke La Liga goalscoring records didn't they?

Just because he doesn't want to bore the fans to death with pointless and excessive back passes and Rondo's doesn't mean it's "ugly".

Stop being a spoilt brat.

Relying on counter-attacks didn't work with Mourinho. Real Madrid just aren't a side made to rely on counter-attacks. It was clear to see our possession play was poor under Mourinho.

by S Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:45 pm

Gil wrote:Where did this myth Ancelotti plays good (whatever the f**k that is anyway) football originate from by the way? He's always played counter attacking wherever he's been, he's another Mou.

Just a classier and more player friendly yet less successful version of him.

Madrid fans are a delusional bunch.

Di Maria, Arbeloa, Kaka, Alonso etc would all be content with a place on the bench for lesser players

Player unrest and power will die

We're gonna play like Brazil 1970 in a couple of months

A lineup with defensive liabilities like CR, Isco, Ozil and co would be stable and we wouldn't concede 5 every other game

Isco could play RW or DM it worked on FIFA!

Same lot that give me grief for Chelsea supposedly stockpiling talent.

by Onyx Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:46 pm

Gil wrote:Where did this myth Ancelotti plays good (whatever the f**k that is anyway) football originate from by the way? He's always played counter attacking wherever he's been, he's another Mou.

Just a classier and more player friendly yet less successful version of him.

Madrid fans are a delusional bunch.

Di Maria, Arbeloa, Kaka, Alonso etc would all be content with a place on the bench for lesser players

Player unrest and power will die

We're gonna play like Brazil 1970 in a couple of months

A lineup with defensive liabilities like CR, Isco, Ozil and co would be stable and we wouldn't concede 5 every other game

Isco could play RW or DM it worked on FIFA!

Same lot that give me grief for Chelsea supposedly stockpiling talent.

Kaka is not good enough to start and hasn't been for a long time. He's most likely going to be sold and he wants a place in the Brazil squad next year.

Di Maria isn't good enough to start either. If a good offer comes in he'll most likely be sold.

Arbeloa isn't good enough to start.

Alonso wants to leave next year anyway and is refusing an extension.

Isco played RW for Spain at times and he did fine.

by McAgger Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:47 pm

James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho
#LFC have admitted defeat in their bid to sign Henrikh Mkhitaryan. Shakhtar have informed them he's on the brink of signing for Dortmund.

Now it's officially over Sad

by halamadrid2 Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:47 pm

Gil wrote:What is ugly football by the way? Isn't the goal of the game to put the ball in the back of the net?

Madrid broke La Liga goalscoring records didn't they?

Just because he doesn't want to bore the fans to death with pointless and excessive back passes and Rondo's doesn't mean it's "ugly".

Stop being a spoilt brat.

You don't win trophies consistently by individual brilliance. Look at Barca now with the decline of most of their stars they are relying on Missi and it doesn't work. When they were at their peak they were the team to beat

last season we had trouble breaking park the bus teams because we are so used to inviting pressure and countering. besides our way of playing asked for more defensive work of players than any other player in other teams. It is just not ideal

by RealGunner Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:47 pm

Sign Christian Eriksen

by windkick Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:49 pm

Se7en wrote:Also, a interesting read on Ancelotti:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1691265-real-madrid-how-zinedine-zidane-forced-carlo-ancelotti-to-change

Maybe will make you understand why we're buying the players we're buying. Carlo is trying to adapt as much as possible to the ideals of Madrid fans imo. That means, focus on youth, spanish players and attacking football. Maybe will make you understand the Illa signing more and also understand that we're most likely planning on playing attacking football with Carlo so Illa is a perfect fit for us

Oh cool, here I though you guys were just doing the usual going with what flavor is hot at the moment and doing your usual revamp (Brazilian flavor, Dutch flavor, German flavor, now Spanish flavor).

I for one would like to you guys open up and attack more. with the players you guys have it would be really nice to watch

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:49 pm

Se7en wrote:None is claiming Ancelotti has played good football, but rather he will try to do so in Madrid.

Since reading about how he adapts to the players in his disposal I don't think that's a crazy idea.

Yes he has and he's never done it before so why start now? ridiculous expectations tbh.

Like saying if Guardiola went to Stoke he would start instructing his players to hoof.

He has never done of this so he's going to magically start now because he's in Madrid? ok.

by Clandestino Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:50 pm

If I was Carlo and the only new midfielder I'd be getting was Illa, I'd be pissed as hell. If anyone seriously expects him to play attractive football and win trophies when 5-6 of his starting line up can't defend for shit (or simply refuse to), while at the same time playing our Spanish youth talents, you've been mindfreaked.

This has all the makings of an absolute disaster and you'll see the Spanish media turning on Carlo as soon as first points are dropped. And with this completely unbalanced squad - I'd even call it defensively challenged - the honeymoon period will be over before the marriage is fully consummated, if you know what I mean. Colour me extremely unimpressed so far, although there is plenty of time for this to change.

by windkick Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:52 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:
windkick wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Illarramendi hopefully will play as a DM, with Modric as a CM.

The club have been looking for an Alonso replacement for some time.

Isco's played on the right for Spain and did fine.

He could also play in a 4-2-2-2.

---------Ronaldo---Benzema
---Isco-----------------Ozil
--------Modric-----Illarramendi

So you have two world class central attackers on your team to play them more on a wing type role? They are both strongest down the middle. Also I would be shocked if Xabi is ok with this little plan of benching him

Alonso wants to leave next year. He's pretty much refusing to sign an extension.

Also Isco does fine out wide and in a 4-2-2-2 they would be roaming about in central positons, instead of just sticking out wide. Carvajal and Marcelo would be providing width.

I understad Xabi wants to leave, but isn't that the Casemiro purhcase was for?

by Onyx Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:53 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Se7en wrote:None is claiming Ancelotti has played good football, but rather he will try to do so in Madrid.

Since reading about how he adapts to the players in his disposal I don't think that's a crazy idea.

Yes he has and he's never done it before so why start now? ridiculous expectations tbh.

Like saying if Guardiola went to Stoke he would start instructing his players to hoof.

He has never done of this so he's going to magically start now because he's in Madrid? ok.

Because he said it's part of Real Madrid's history and tradition to play offensive football.

He knows he can't play defensively, especially after what he saw happen to Mourinho. He knows he's at Real Madrid.

by Gil Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:53 pm

Anyway Juve are winning the CL next year.
I feel they've overtaken Bayern and Barca with the Tevez/Llorente signings.

They have no weaknesses as it stands.

just need a plan b for Pirlo. He tends to get marked out easily in the big games so a second option would be an excellent luxury to have.

by S Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:54 pm

McAgger wrote:
James Pearce ‏@JamesPearceEcho
#LFC have admitted defeat in their bid to sign Henrikh Mkhitaryan. Shakhtar have informed them he's on the brink of signing for Dortmund.

Now it's officially over

Ljajic has one year left on his contract.He could be available for a lesser price.

by halamadrid2 Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:55 pm

windkick wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:
windkick wrote:

So you have two world class central attackers on your team to play them more on a wing type role? They are both strongest down the middle. Also I would be shocked if Xabi is ok with this little plan of benching him

Alonso wants to leave next year. He's pretty much refusing to sign an extension.

Also Isco does fine out wide and in a 4-2-2-2 they would be roaming about in central positons, instead of just sticking out wide. Carvajal and Marcelo would be providing width.

I understad Xabi wants to leave, but isn't that the Casemiro purhcase was for?

the Casemiro purshace is baffling for all of us because besides his habits of conceding freekicks he doesn't excel in anything. I think he is just there for depth

by EarlyPrototype Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:56 pm

Gil wrote:Where did this myth Ancelotti plays good (whatever the f**k that is anyway) football originate from by the way? He's always played counter attacking wherever he's been, he's another Mou.

Dont make things up pal. No one said that. Ancelotti himself said he would play good football.

Gil wrote:

Just a classier and more player friendly yet less successful version of him.

Then you don't know much about him.

Gil wrote:

Di Maria, Arbeloa, Kaka, Alonso etc would all be content with a place on the bench for lesser players

Who the f*ck is Kaka? been pretty contempt for past 3 seasons. Sitting on his arse ramming money into it.
Alonso has one year left in him and he has been in decline. Mendi will replace him sooner or later.
Arbeloa? Laughing

pls go
That leaves Di Maria and he will get plenty of time.

Gil wrote:
We're gonna play like Brazil 1970 in a couple of months

Ancelotti is not taking over Stoke/Chelsea he is taking over Madrid. We have a history of playing good football. I don't expect Carlo to revolutionize our football.

Gil wrote:

Isco could play RW or DM it worked on FIFA!

No Oscar can play DM tho.

Isco won't be playing DM or RW. Laughing

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:56 pm

Gil wrote:Anyway Juve are winning the CL next year.
I feel they've overtaken Bayern and Barca with the Tevez/Llorente signings.

They have no weaknesses as it stands.

just need a plan b for Pirlo. He tends to get marked out easily in the big games so a second option would be an excellent luxury to have.

Tevez is a known CL flop and Llorente is unproven at CL level.

Pls stahp.

by S Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:58 pm

That new Madrid kit is nice bar the font of the numbers and letters.

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