Re: The Bundesliga Thread

by Helmer Sun 12 Jan 2014, 20:51

I remember seeing him recently playing for the Frankurt team against Hannover (not sure) he had come as a substitute. It was very late in the game, so not enough to judge anything about his performance.
I had never heard about him before, just asked a local coach here out of curiosity and he said the player is very talented but nothing specific about his abilities.

by VivaStPauli Mon 13 Jan 2014, 15:04

Well, Kempf does seem very talented and has been shining for the 2nd team, but has very, very limited experience in 1st team football, so very much a diamond in the rough. This goes double for defenders, as well all know, who rely on experience a lot.

He is very agile, and has good positioning already, though, so there is obvious potential, I'm not surprised a bigger club is after him, though I'm surprised it's as big as Juve.

by S Thu 16 Jan 2014, 21:37

@Toffer Harley,i am reading you have signed Ouasim Bouy on loan,if you can confirm pls ?

by BAYERN_MUNICH Thu 16 Jan 2014, 21:42

They have signed John from Benfica on loan

by Toffer Harley Thu 16 Jan 2014, 21:43

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Is it our fault when clubs like Schalke and Hamburg can't get their shit together even though having all the infrastructure and opportunities?

where do we have "infrastructure and opportunities"? Very Happy

the club is a wreck and if HSV+ doesn't get voted through we are doomed for years.

by BAYERN_MUNICH Thu 16 Jan 2014, 21:54

Toffer Harley wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Is it our fault when clubs like Schalke and Hamburg can't get their shit together even though having all the infrastructure and opportunities?

where do we have "infrastructure and opportunities"? :Dthe club is a wreck and if HSV+ doesn't get voted through we are doomed for years.

beautiful city, nice stadium, many fans, history ... maybe? Very Happy

by Toffer Harley Thu 16 Jan 2014, 22:03

sure that's one thing, but in the end it's all about the cash. that's why teams like wolfsburg with a shit city, clown fans and no history will keep dominating us

by Toffer Harley Thu 16 Jan 2014, 22:11

on another note, jens keller deserves all the criticism he is getting. the man is a bloated baboon with a rhetoric that makes u wanna throw the tv out of the window - "der beste wo gibt". on top of that he copied his stupid facial expression from, out of all people, michael skibbe. the simple fact that he is a bundesliga coach is a disgrace for sports as a whole..

S wrote:@Toffer Harley,i am reading you have signed Ouasim Bouy on loan,if you can confirm pls ?

just read that as well, never heard of him tbh. supposetly he is a huge talent and then got injured after he went to juve right?

by S Sat 18 Jan 2014, 06:27

Di Marzio wrote:Juventus is looking in Germany to acquire some prospects for the future. Eintracht Frankfurt goal keeper Kevin Trapp, born in 1990, is considered one of the best goal keepers in Germany, he has accepted to join Juve who is trying to bring him to Turin in June so he can be mentored by Buffon. On the other hand his teammate Kempf, has turned down Juventus for the second time. The center back wants to remain in Germany rather than not finding much space at Juve or playing for their Primavera team. Juventus is shopping in Germany.

Ok so,can Germans tell us more about Trapp ? Legit GK ? How good(talented) is he ? hmm

by la bestia negra Sat 18 Jan 2014, 11:23

S wrote:
Di Marzio wrote:Juventus is looking in Germany to acquire some prospects for the future. Eintracht Frankfurt goal keeper Kevin Trapp, born in 1990, is considered one of the best goal keepers in Germany, he has accepted to join Juve who is trying to bring him to Turin in June so he can be mentored by Buffon. On the other hand his teammate Kempf, has turned down Juventus for the second time. The center back wants to remain in Germany rather than not finding much space at Juve or playing for their Primavera team. Juventus is shopping in Germany.

Ok so,can Germans tell us more about Trapp ? Legit GK ? How good(talented) is he ?

trapp is legit

a bargain when you compare him to ter stagen

by BAYERN_MUNICH Sat 18 Jan 2014, 12:48

Good but not as good as Leno or terStegen

by Helmer Sat 18 Jan 2014, 13:03

BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Good but not as good as Leno or terStegen

but I think with great potential and mentoring from Buffon is exactly what he needs probably, he could come as top class WC...worth investing imo. In fact Borussia were looking for him as a successor to Ter Stegen if rumours are to be believed

by rwo power Sat 18 Jan 2014, 14:18

Well, Kevin Trapp has been called up as GK for the German U21 NT several times for a reason. He is pretty reliable and was also thrown into the pot as possible new Nr.1 for both Schalke 04 and Borussia M'gladbach, although Trapp denied any intention to move to BMG at least.

As for a move to Juve - while it is a very interesting destination, I doubt that Trapp would want to transfer to a club where he'd spend at least one year on the bench. Mind you, he turned down Bayern München, too, when they tried to get him as their Nr.2 GK.

by Helmer Sat 18 Jan 2014, 16:46

But I think it would be a different case at Juve compared to Bayern, considering they want to phase out Buffon slowly. Buffon I guess is 35 now so he can go there in the summer or probably next summer

by Hapless_Hans Sat 18 Jan 2014, 16:49

we're at the moment being taken apart by RB Salzburg, whatever Pep had in mind playing Hjojberg at CB, Boateng left back and Martinez as RIGHT BACK hmm

by RealGunner Sat 18 Jan 2014, 16:50

Robbie Kruse is out for the season.

Terrible

by S Sat 18 Jan 2014, 17:10

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:But I think it would be a different case at Juve compared to Bayern, considering they want to phase out Buffon slowly. Buffon I guess is 35 now so he can go there in the summer or probably next summer

He'll be 36 in a week's time and has a contract expiring in 2015.All depends on how long he carries on in the end.

Mind you these rumors are only coming from Di Marzio.I dont think any German sources have picked up this news yet.

by Toffer Harley Sat 18 Jan 2014, 17:35

no they haven't any i don't think it's an option for him to get 1-2 years of "mentoring session" with an uncertain future still. nothing mentors you more than the actual game and competing out there

by iftikhar Sat 18 Jan 2014, 17:56

RealGunner wrote:Robbie Kruse is out for the season.

Terrible

Great. As if they didn't have enough troubles :facepalm:

by ioilersrock448 Sat 18 Jan 2014, 20:01

Hapless_Hans wrote:we're at the moment being taken apart by RB Salzburg, whatever Pep had in mind playing Hjojberg at CB, Boateng left back and Martinez as RIGHT BACK

Friendlies :bow:

by VivaStPauli Sat 18 Jan 2014, 23:58

S wrote:

Ok so,can Germans tell us more about Trapp ? Legit GK ? How good(talented) is he ?

Not any worse than Leno or ter Stegen, actually coming off a better season than ter Stegen.

by Toffer Harley Sun 19 Jan 2014, 12:00

looks like HSV+ is gonna pull through today, 87% voted against discussing other random stuff first at the meeting so there might not be enough time to vote at the end. that was the initial plan of the "oppposition" or rather st.pauliesque pretender anticommercial segment.

by S Sun 19 Jan 2014, 12:04

VivaStPauli wrote:
S wrote:

Ok so,can Germans tell us more about Trapp ? Legit GK ? How good(talented) is he ?

Not any worse than Leno or ter Stegen, actually coming off a better season than ter Stegen.

Wow,thats certainly good to hear.

Thanks for the opinions guys.Germany's keeper depth is simply insane.

I wonder if Trapp has any chance to make the WC squad ? hmm

by rwo power Sun 19 Jan 2014, 13:18

S wrote:I wonder if Trapp has any chance to make the WC squad ?

That's very unlikely as there are several other keepers that Löw would call up before him: Manuel Neuer, René Adler, Ron-Robert Zieler, Marc-André ter Stegen, probably even Roman Weidenfeller. Mind you, with Löw that is not necessarily a quality judgement; the only keeper who is really sure of his place is Manuel Neuer.

AFAIK Kevin Trapp is still listed with the U21, although there he faces strong competition with Marc-André ter Stegen, Bernd Leno and Oliver Baumann, too.

by elitedam Sun 19 Jan 2014, 14:17

Why does Germany produce so many great goalkeepers? Is it a more prestigious position in Germany?

by Toffer Harley Sun 19 Jan 2014, 17:05

elitedam wrote:Why does Germany produce so many great goalkeepers? Is it a more prestigious position in Germany?

well, it's probably a combination of things. without going into too much detail i'd say the following are part of it:

a) the history with great german keepers like Maier, Schumacher, Illgner, Köpke, Kahn etc. sure makes goal keeper an appealing position for youngsters. therefore it is also easier to sustain such a legacy.

b) many of these former greats go on to teach young german keepers in the academies and therefore pass their wealth of knowledge on.

c) physical attributes. germans are relatively tall people and this comes in handy when you're a goalkeeper of course.

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