He was always being benched by superior footballers after he left BVB. People just wouldn't get it.

He reached his peak at 22 and now he's done.

Henderson and Allen are superior footballers? Diarra is a superior footballer?

come on lol.

Dortmund haha, overrated bunch of talent. Bayern to thrash them.

It's about the positions too imo. Lass had to play because we needed a DM to play alongside Alonso.

However at Liverpool he was the best CM regardless of form. Lucas, Sahin and Coutinho would have been a top midfield.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Henderson and Allen are superior footballers? Diarra is a superior footballer?

come on lol.

He didn't show much ability to be better considered superior than Henderson and Allen when he was playing so I would say he was being benched because there were more suitable players playing in his position.

I would agree with you in Madrid though, he didn't get a proper chance at all to show what he can do, so it's debatable.

What a first half, football on the highest stage and Robben with an amazing goal <3

Bayern are just too dominant at the moment.Cant see Dortmund coming back in this game.Robben hitting form as well just at the right time of their season lol.

Tbh Dortmund giving us a hard time, the only thing we can do is playing the long balls, the middlefield is kind of closed .

Btw it seems that Guardiola is in the stadium , Sammer asked about this just said "no comment".

Think Bayern have a realistic chance of winning the treble now imo.

They should be able to secure to the domestic double atleast.They have just been too dominant this year.If Barca end up getting knocked out,they are outright favorites to win the CL for me.

They have been favorites for the CL in my eyes all along.

They were the best team last year and got very unlucky and they are the best team this year about time they get the credit they deserve.

Barca and Madrid keep flopping and they are still somehow better....

Not for me.

No they werent.They werent even the best in their own league last year.Lost the title by a substantial margin of points to Dortmund.And you cant pull out this luck card.They couldnt finish to save their lives last year so they dint deserve the best in the world tag and rightfully so.If you're going to say Barca and Madrid flopped well Bayern managed to do the same too as they were outright favorites to win the final.

This year though its been a different story and they can rightfully claim to be the best in the world if they win the CL that is ,which is a huge possibility.

I'm talking about in CL.... league is irrelevant considering everyone considered Barca favorites and they lost the league before their semi final even took place.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'm talking about in CL.... league is irrelevant considering everyone considered Barca favorites and they lost the league before their semi final even took place.

If you consider CL then how are RM flopping??

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'm talking about in CL.... league is irrelevant considering everyone considered Barca favorites and they lost the league before their semi final even took place.

If you consider CL then how are RM flopping??

I meant in not getting to finals.... Bayern have been consistently getting to finals in last few years ok they have been falling at the final hurdle.

And to me they look by Farrrrrrr the most impressive team this season.

The Dutchman is back at his best and with two already terrific wingers in Mueller and Ribery, I don't think that Bayern can be stopped. I think Bayern will win the reble this year, Bayern is just too good.

They have a good chance for the treble this year

I feel the best news for Bayern of the last few weeks is the fact that robben is back to where he was 2 years ago. Dude is a incredible weapon and one of the most dangerous players in the world when on fire.

The difference last year was while Chelsea were an average team, they had better "tactical" substitutions at their disposal than Bayern (funny considering there problem now is improper use of tactical substitutions, I love irony).

This year Bayern is quite possibly the deepest team in the world.

Most people here probably know zonalmarking.net, but in Germany we have a similarly good tactical analysis site called Spielverlagerung.de. For once they translated one of their analyses to English - here's Bayern vs Dortmund, carefully taken apart:

http://spielverlagerung.de/2013/02/28/english-fc-bayern-munich-borussia-dortmund-10/

Oh, by the way, I really loved the helpful image subtitle of the Guardian here:



Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/feb/27/bayern-munich-borussia-dortmund-german-cup

This feud in the press

Dese two babies

Heynckes: "If Jürgen ever coaches Bayern or Real Madrid, he will realise what it means—that this is a completely different world."

Of course, Dortmund CEO Watzke had to chime in as well, "Bayern are not the club to tell us to show grace in defeat."

You forgot Kloppo's comment that started it: "Bayern copied Dortmund's style just like the Chinese copy technology put lots of money into it and then return with the copied stuff to sell it." (paraphrased)

Kloppo is right though. Bayern did adapt Kloppo's "gegen-pressing". Heynckes comment is pretty innocent too - it's a reference to the must win pressure. It's Watzke who wants to beef

Well, I'm looking forward to the Doppelpass on Sunday - IIRC, Watzke will be a guest there. I'm curious about what he will have to say! Fun thing, should Dortmund set up a proper attack department of their own, too.

rwo power wrote:Well, I'm looking forward to the Doppelpass on Sunday - IIRC, Watzke will be a guest there. I'm curious about what he will have to say! Fun thing, should Dortmund set up a proper attack department of their own, too.

wont stand a chance against Uli the great seducer

Hey, but I'm looking forward to some fun verbal duels nonetheless!