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Post by nasir6371 Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:16 am

Getting back on topic here are some interesting facts:

The eight European Cup/Champions League encounters between Real Madrid and Manchester Utd have produced 31 goals (3.9/game).

Manchester Utd have never won away against Real Madrid (two defeats, two draws).

The Red Devils have conceded exactly three goals in three of their four trips to the Santiago Bernabeu.

Their last encounter was 10 years ago, in April 2003. Real Madrid won 6-5 on aggregate in the Champions League quarter-finals.

Manchester Utd have only won two of their 13 away Champions League games in Spain (seven draws, four defeats).

Real Madrid have only failed to score once in their last 31 Champions League games, that was against Barcelona at the Bernabeu in April 2011.

Since that semi-final when they failed to hit the back of the net against Barcelona, Real Madrid have scored 33 goals in nine Champions League games at the Bernabeu.

Real Madrid have failed to keep a clean sheet in this season’s competition. They have conceded nine goals in the Champions League this season, the most among the 16 teams qualified for the knockout stages.

Manchester Utd have conceded the opening goal in each of their last five Champions League games.

Real Madrid had the joint-most shots (incl. blocked) in the group stages this season, alongside Juventus (126). They’ve scored the most goals from outside the box (6).

Manchester Utd have seen their woodwork rattled five times, the most in the group stages this season.

Cristiano Ronaldo was the joint-top scorer in the group stages alongside Galatasaray’s Burak Yilmaz (6 goals).

Robin van Persie and Javier Hernandez have scored six of Manchester Utd’s nine goals in the Champions League this season (three each). All three of van Persie’s goals have come away from home.

Alex Ferguson has only won two of his 14 competitive encounters with Jose Mourinho (six draws, six defeats).

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Post by Die Borussen Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:20 am

given that one encounter between ferguson and mourinho ended up in a penalty shootout id say ferguson has only beaten him once cause i consider dat a draw

justsayin

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:24 am

why is time going so fcking slow

countdown: 9 hours and 21 mins left
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Post by Die Borussen Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:32 am

thats exactly 6 games so go watch the previous encounters What a Face

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Post by Mamad Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:35 am

I'm gonna miss the game cuz i should go to my cousins wedding Mad . but i will download it in HD and watch Razz . but still Mad .
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Post by Die Borussen Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:39 am

Mamad wrote:I'm gonna miss the game cuz i should go to my cousins wedding Mad . but i will download it in HD and watch Razz . but still Mad .
what? its just your cousin this is serious business, dont go!!

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:47 am

Mamad wrote:I'm gonna miss the game cuz i should go to my cousins wedding Mad . but i will download it in HD and watch Razz . but still Mad .

watch it there. you know where the priorities lies brother do the sensible :coffee:
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Post by billy_gr Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:51 am

Who gets married midweek anyway??
Watch the damned game!
P.S. I’m having my birthday and I’m postponing the usual night out because of it
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Post by Die Borussen Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:52 am

woah happy birthday mate drinking

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Post by Mamad Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:08 am

I know but he will be very upset if i don't go. we are so close. i can't remember the last time i missed a Madrid game and now im going to miss the game i was waiting to happen for many years. so pissed.

Happy birthday Billy.
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Post by billy_gr Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:32 am

thanks guys Wink
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Post by Jack Daniels Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:34 am

Happy Birthday mate!
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Post by kiranr Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:49 am

As much as i want Madrid to lose, it is just difficult to see United going through to the next round. Madrid's firepower will just be too much for United.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:59 am

Lex wrote:Whoever loses, i win.

Why do you always feel that you are in a competition?Chill out and enjoy football. Smile

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BTW, this is for Real Madrid fans:

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to offend anybody.

If Ozil > Rooney, Benzema > RVP, Ronaldo > Nani ... etc. and all the stats are on your side; you play home; you are better at almost everything, this means that you won't live this game with emotions and you are quite sure that Real will easily qualify to quarter finals, at least...this is the attitude that most of you showed in this thread.Some of you even said that you will win with 3 or 4 goals difference.But still, in some posts above, you prove that your subconscious has a hard time waiting for tonight's game.Why is this happening?Are you trying to lie yourselves?
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Post by Zealous Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:00 pm

Happy Birthday Billy.
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Post by Zealous Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:05 pm

vladdy wrote:
Lex wrote:Whoever loses, i win.

Why do you always feel that you are in a competition?Chill out and enjoy football. Smile

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BTW, this is for Real Madrid fans:

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to offend anybody.

If Ozil > Rooney, Benzema > RVP, Ronaldo > Nani ... etc. and all the stats are on your side; you play home; you are better at almost everything, this means that you won't live this game with emotions and you are quite sure that Real will easily qualify to quarter finals, at least...this is the attitude that most of you showed in this thread.Some of you even said that you will win with 3 or 4 goals difference.But still, in some posts above, you prove that your subconscious has a hard time waiting for tonight's game.Why is this happening?Are you trying to lie yourselves?

The people saying they are worried are not the same ones saying that Madrid will easily go through.

Anyway I think this tie depends on whether or not Madrid keep a clean sheet at home. If we do then I really like our chances.
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Post by Die Borussen Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:06 pm

individual quality doesn't necesserily coincide with team result, we may have the majority of the better players but what happens on the pitch depends on many factors

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Post by Kaladin Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:07 pm

Happy Birthday Billy
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:11 pm

Idiot wrote:individual quality doesn't necesserily coincide with team result, we may have the majority of the better players but what happens on the pitch depends on many factors

Yes.Team chemistry is one of the most important aspects of the game.

BTW, Happy Birthday Billy ! drinking Chaka
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Post by billy_gr Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:17 pm

Thanks guys!
I derailed the thread for good.
Didn’t mean to. Smile
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Post by Zealous Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:21 pm

Great Article on the friendly history between the two clubs:

They are supposed to be the best of enemies: the socialists revered by the Stretford End and the club who were supported by Franco and have raided Manchester United’s academy.

Who can forget the hatred in the words of Sir Alex Ferguson just five years ago when he said, as Real Madrid pursued Cristiano Ronaldo, they were a “mob” to whom he would not sell “a virus”.

But relations between the clubs, which have thawed a little since Jose Mourinho’s arrival in Spain, have a much happier history. Not least in the famous friendship between Santiago Bernabeu, the old Madrid president, whose name was given to the ground United will play in, and Sir Matt Busby 50 years ago.

The story of it is revealed in John Ludden’s book A Tale of Two Cities: Manchester and Madrid 1957-1968 and Ludden told The Independent he was surprised there is some modern animosity between the clubs. “When you look back on the history and you see what Real Madrid did for United after Munich.” he said, “It’s incredible.”

This warmth between Bernabeu and Busby grew out of mutual respect for each other’s teams, and led to some remarkable displays of generosity and charity when United were at their lowest. It grew out of the European Cup semi-final of April 1957, which Madrid won 5-3 on aggregate but were held to a stirring 2-2 draw in the second leg at Old Trafford.

Bernabeu was so impressed by the spirit and quality of United’s young side that he offered Busby a job. The Scot, though, was desperate to win in Europe with United, and said no.

Ten months later, United’s young team was devastated by tragedy. An air crash in Munich, 55 years ago last week, killed eight players, three staff and 10 others. They had just won a European Cup quarter-final. The dream of Busby’s side conquering Europe looked over.

United lost their semi-final to Milan three months after the crash but Milan were beaten 3-2 by Real Madrid in the final. Bernabeu, dedicated the win to his fallen friends from Manchester and even offered United the trophy, though it was turned down.

If that offer was purely symbolic there were material pledges too, most significantly the offer to loan United the world’s finest footballer, Alfredo di Stefano, “the Blond Arrow”, for the 1958-59 season. “Bernabeu went to see Di Stefano about this,” Ludden said. “He was willing to go until the end of the season, United paying half his wages and Madrid the other half. But the Football Association blocked it as he would be taking the place of a potential British player.”

So Madrid helped in different ways. They made a memorial pennant with the names of the Munich dead, called “Champions of Honour”, which was sold in Spain to raise money for United. There were offers to the injured and bereaved to recuperate at Madrid’s luxurious facilities in Spain at no cost.

There was also a series of fund-raising friendlies between the two teams. As well as the human and sporting cost, the Munich disaster had hit United’s finances. Real Madrid usually charged £12,000 for such games, but Bernabeu told United “pay what you can afford”.

These games were not just fund-raisers, though. “United could not even dream of Europe, it was more a case of staying up [in the First Division],” said Ludden. “So Busby’s idea was to keep the idea of Europe alive for the fans and players. It gave the players a level – of Ferenc Puskas and Di Stefano – they had to get to if United were to get back in Europe.”

In October 1959 Madrid won the first friendly 6-1 in front of 63,000 at Old Trafford, with Di Stefano, Puskas and Francisco Gento outstanding.

Madrid won the re-match the following month 6-5, a remarkable game watched by 80,000 entranced fans, who applauded both teams off. That evening Madrid organised a fund-raising banquet for the bereaved families of Munich in which Bernabeu said Busby was “not only the bravest, but the greatest man I have ever met in football”.

For the next friendly, in October 1960, Puskas and Di Stefano were injury doubts. Bernabeu asked Busby if he wanted to postpone the game but United’s manager insisted, saying that Madrid “had become like family”. Puskas and Di Stefano were so impressed they played anyway and helped produce another classic, which Madrid won 3-2.

United were getting closer and in the next friendly in December 1961 they beat Madrid 3-1, and the following September won 2-0 in the Bernabeu. United won the FA Cup that season, the first trophy after Munich, and the title followed before the European Cup in 1968, United overcoming Madrid in the semi-finals on their way to the prize Busby had driven his rebuilt team towards for 10 years.

“If it had to be anyone, then I am glad it was them,” said a gracious Bernabeu afterwards. He had played his own part in their resurrection.
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Post by TheRedStag Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:39 pm

Should be an excellent game.

Wish it was on a different day to Shaktar v Dortmund.
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Post by Onyx Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:04 pm

6 hours and 41 minutes to go. :bow:

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Post by REWB Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:42 pm

kiranr wrote:As much as i want Madrid to lose, it is just difficult to see United going through to the next round. Madrid's firepower will just be too much for United.

very difficult, i predict madrid to win by 3 or more clear goals
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Post by Pedram Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:00 pm

billy_gr wrote:Who gets married midweek anyway??
Watch the damned game!
P.S. I’m having my birthday and I’m postponing the usual night out because of it

Happy B Day bro. Thumbs up
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Post by RED Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:34 pm

Zealous, I was just about to post that. Fantastic read + kudos to RM for helping Utd. That was a very respectable and classy gesture. The history between these 2 great clubs is inspiring.


Also what's with Marca's front page yesterday. Rooney, a hooligan? and calling all our travelling supporters hooligans. really? trolls.


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