:lol!: I smell Europa League.

I know the concept of loyalty outside of a binding contract is a foreign subject to most people on here, but RVP is Arsenal through and through. He isn't some badge kissing hypocrite or some "only God knows" character. He's had plenty of chances to leave before and has turned them down.

Media can speculate and blow things out of proportion all they want

Only a matter of time

Lex wrote:I know the concept of loyalty outside of a binding contract is a foreign subject to most people on here, but RVP is Arsenal through and through. He isn't some badge kissing hypocrite or some "only God knows" character. He's had plenty of chances to leave before and has turned them down.

Media can speculate and blow things out of proportion all they want

he is prolly leaving next year.

Prolly

But prolly not

The media is on their "let's all hate on Arsenal" period. This is all BS.

"I want to focus on the here and now" has turned into "RVP on his way out of Arsenal"

Lex wrote:"I want to focus on the here and now" has turned into "RVP on his way out of Arsenal"

That's what Nasri said

RVP isn't Nasri

Lex wrote:I know the concept of loyalty outside of a binding contract is a foreign subject to most people on here, but RVP is Arsenal through and through. He isn't some badge kissing hypocrite or some "only God knows" character. He's had plenty of chances to leave before and has turned them down.

Media can speculate and blow things out of proportion all they want

If he is that loyal he wont be delaying to renew his contract despite him entering the last 18 months.Either that or Arsenal management is just inept not to offer their best player a new contract which i very much doubt after what happened with Nasri

Of course he is going to leave. Unless Arsenal up there pay scale he is as good as gone. He spent 7 years at Arsenal and for his last contract he will want to make as much money as possible.

He's not going to stay for half the money someone else would pay him and neither would you or I.

tsgooner1 wrote:kk, no one is leaving except maybe clichy. This is all media bull. What nasri is doing is, he wants to stay, but is trying to get wenger to sign players to improve the squad. Hes pretty much using the contract dispute as a way to get his point across to the board. And as Eman said, RVP recently said he wants to play his career out at Arsenal. We all know the Cesc situation, Barca wont pay, plus recently he said that he wants to stay and win trophies with arsenal first and then he will decide.

Wow, I would stop looking into that crystal ball and get a new one??

dnmac4 wrote:Of course he is going to leave. Unless Arsenal up there pay scale he is as good as gone. He spent 7 years at Arsenal and for his last contract he will want to make as much money as possible.

He's not going to stay for half the money someone else would pay him and neither would you or I.

Agree with that, I hope we offer him 150k at least.

Arsenal do need to up their pay scale in order to attract and keep their good players otherwise the big clubs will keep stealing them.

Plus they aren't a competitive side so that aspect even becomes more important.

But then again if they did up their pay scale then they would eventually become a competitive side. It's all related.

Dutch media are the ones who reported that Suarez is 100% staying at Ajax while he was actually chowing down scouse at melwood

Fair enough Arsenal fans feel that RVP is committed to Arsenal football club but guys let's be honest.

You don't think that the idea hasn't crossed Robin's mind for even a second?

It's not like London is RVP's home town or anything either. Sooner or later a player will come at a point where he'll have to choose what's best for him.

There are loads of examples where players who do decide to leave go on to bigger and better things. (Henry is a great example)

Look at what ONE statement has created. All RVP said was that he wants to focus on the here and now because he doesn't want to be distracted with talks of contracts and suddenly, we have Chelsea and Madrid fan already pre ordering their RVP shirts

The spiritual entity known as "the media" is constantly slammed on here for twisting words and fabricating stories, yet looking in this thread, the exact same thing has gone on without remorse. RVP has stated plenty of times that he cannot picture himself at any other club and that Arsenal is where he belongs. It's a little different to Ronaldo's "God knows" speech and Fabregas' constant hiding behind Xavi and co.

I get what you're saying and frankly I agree. I don't really buy what the media is farting out atm.

I was mostly speaking in general. You really don't believe the thought hasn't crossed his mind at some stage? What with all of his more talented team mates moving on?

I don't think he'll leave.. because honestly I don't think he just wants to win to me it seems like he either wants to win with arsenal or not at all.. Everyone can take the easy way out and join a good team and win but I don't think that is how he wants to do it. I mean arsenal is only like 1 or 2 actually quality purchases and a few players coming back from injury to being right back where they were...

Arsenal have been "1 or 2 actual quality purchases" away from success 5 years ago.

I think Wenger is no long a manager that player want. Van Persie is 28 he want to win something. With Arsenal he win less than with our national team. LOL

Zealous wrote:Arsenal have been "1 or 2 actual quality purchases" away from success 5 years ago.

I didn't say from winning the premier league, I meant back to a competitive cl team, and not getting stomped on 8-2 or scoring two own goals in one game

Zealous wrote:What with all of his more talented team mates moving on?

I'm sure you worded that wrong because i couldn't pick the more talented one out of RVP and Cesc and i think we can both agree that RVP is more talented than Nasri

As for the thought crossing his mind, sure. He's human after all. But at the same time, he doesn't have anyone stalking him (Cesc) and he isn't a prostitute (Nasri) He's probably one of the few loyal players left in the game

Besides, given that this is probably one of the busiest times in the club's history, surely he can say he'd rather wait until the summer when things aren't as hectic to negotiate his contract and have some truth to it? Is it that farfetched?

Lex wrote:

Zealous wrote:What with all of his more talented team mates moving on?

I'm sure you worded that wrong because i couldn't pick the more talented one out of RVP and Cesc and i think we can both agree that RVP is more talented than Nasri

As for the thought crossing his mind, sure. He's human after all. But at the same time, he doesn't have anyone stalking him (Cesc) and he isn't a prostitute (Nasri) He's probably one of the few loyal players left in the game

Besides, given that this is probably one of the busiest times in the club's history, surely he can say he'd rather wait until the summer when things aren't as hectic to negotiate his contract and have some truth to it? Is it that farfetched?

You misunderstood. What I meant was that the players that have left Arsenal were some of the more talented ones on the Arsenal squad. (Not Just Cesc or Nasri but Henry as well). Wasn't comparing them to RVP.

As for the rest of the post I never said the rumours were true or that RVP is indeed thinking about his future at this very second. I was just putting forward the idea that maybe RVP has entertained the notion of moving on at some point in time.

First off, the only issue I have with Arsenal and RvP is that they (Wenger) should have made him captain instead of Cesc. As for Robin leaving, the man hasn't shown any indication of wanting to leave and I personally think he doesn't really want to leave. He probably wants to be paid more according to his talents but that's about it.

He is, in fact, Arsenal through and through...

Lex wrote:Look at what ONE statement has created. All RVP said was that he wants to focus on the here and now because he doesn't want to be distracted with talks of contracts and suddenly, we have Chelsea and Madrid fan already pre ordering their RVP shirts

The spiritual entity known as "the media" is constantly slammed on here for twisting words and fabricating stories, yet looking in this thread, the exact same thing has gone on without remorse. RVP has stated plenty of times that he cannot picture himself at any other club and that Arsenal is where he belongs. It's a little different to Ronaldo's "God knows" speech and Fabregas' constant hiding behind Xavi and co.

Just like how Faby and Nasri were supposed to stay?

Van Persie has a good chance of leaving if you finish trophyless yet again. He either wants trophies or big money, if you can't give either well then he's off like Fab, Nasri, Cole, etc (most players want both anyways, but we'll just keep things simple for you).