Re: NextGen Series [champions league for U-19]

by :{Mr.Mustachio! Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:21 pm

Crimson wrote:No Madrid, no Manchester United, no Juve, no Milan, no Bayern; no party

by Magricos Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:30 pm

good goal by sporting 1-0

by The Madrid One Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:34 pm

the kings of the champions league dont even have their youth squad in there...

ffs.

by Gil Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:43 pm

Two English teams in the final. Proud

GL Lost again. Laughing

by RealGunner Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:44 pm

Chelsea frauding their way through. Fielding 40 year olds in the competition Laughing

btw loftus cheek is immense

by McAgger Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:45 pm

How the heck are Aston Villa youth in the finals?? Are they playing their PL team??

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:47 pm

Villa youth is great tbf, most of their best players this season has been their youth Laughing

But they are too reliant on it atm, much like we was until January.

by DuringTheWar Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:57 pm

Villa youth team isn't particularly good, sporting today we're better. But they have a excellent attitude and that typical English grit which has become underrated since people started mocking it. They also have a couple a decent players and an outstandingly gifted youngster Jack grealish, he was mesmerising against sporting, he isn't fast but he dribbles past players soooo easily, quality first touch as well, best player I've seen in this tournament imo

by McAgger Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:04 pm

Sadly we drew Sporting in the first round. And that was right after Yesil and Pelosi both tore their ACL's, Robinson was loaned out and for some odd reason Rodgers kept captain Conor Coady with first team that week. :facepalm:

by RealGunner Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:12 pm

We made it to the semis in our 1st year and was a pretty impressive experience.

by fatman123 Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:15 am

Chelsea in the final without a youth system :bow:

by halamadrid2 Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:41 am

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:How the heck are Aston Villa youth in the finals?? Are they playing their PL team??

their youth academy is the best in england and dare I say one of the best in Europe

by Kick Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:50 am

Chelsea will be jr champions of Europe too :bow:

by McAgger Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:43 am

halamadrid2 wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:How the heck are Aston Villa youth in the finals?? Are they playing their PL team??

their youth academy is the best in england and dare I say one of the best in Europe

Not a chance mate.

by Kick Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:44 am

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:How the heck are Aston Villa youth in the finals?? Are they playing their PL team??

their youth academy is the best in england and dare I say one of the best in Europe

Not a chance mate.

exactly, Chelsea's is better and we'll prove it in the final :coffee:

by McAgger Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:00 am

yeah Chelsea's is arguably better. But still not the best in England. Take a wild guess on which I think is the best NextGen Series [champions league for U-19] - Page 2 123n7r

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by Kick Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:03 am

Everton

by McAgger Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:09 am

Kick wrote:Everton

Vagi

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by Red Alert Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:28 am

halamadrid2 wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:How the heck are Aston Villa youth in the finals?? Are they playing their PL team??

their youth academy is the best in england and dare I say one of the best in Europe

They have a great youth side no doubt. I'd argue some of their players should be playing instead of their seniors. But they're not even in the top 3 in England let alone Europe. lol

by S Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:49 am

Kick wrote:exactly, Chelsea's is better and we'll prove it in the final

And that means exactly zero for a club like Chelsea seeing how the club is run with their shiny multi-million pound transfers year after year.

Whats the point in bragging about having a great youth academy when you dont even use them ? Null.

by Red Alert Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:53 am

Why are you looking for an argument? lol

He stated Chelsea have one of the best academy's in England. In which they do. What's that got to do with the way Roman decides to run his club?

by Kick Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:02 am

Surag wrote:
Kick wrote:exactly, Chelsea's is better and we'll prove it in the final

And that means exactly zero for a club like Chelsea seeing how the club is run with their shiny multi-million pound transfers year after year.

Whats the point in bragging about having a great youth academy when you dont even use them ? Null.

Considering we have youth players all across Europe, we are looking to intergrate youth players in the future and some of our youth players are key players for some of the lower teams in England (WBA, Watford, Blackburn, Boro, etc.) I don't see your point. scratch

Also, Youth systems are not all about promoting every player, it's more about whats best for the player even if that means they move on. Lastly, even if they don't make it with us, as long as we sell them for more than we bought them, what does it matter?

by S Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:39 am

Kick wrote:Also, Youth systems are not all about promoting every player, it's more about whats best for the player even if that means they move on. Lastly, even if they don't make it with us, as long as we sell them for more than we bought them, what does it matter?

"Even if they dont make it with us" that probably explains things because the way the team is structured at the moment(i genuinely wonder if Chelsea even need a youth academy sometimes) its difficult for even one single player to breakthrough into the first team.When you have a sugar daddy like Roman willing to open his chequebook every now and then ,then the very essence of a youth academy becomes almost redundant.I hope you get what i'm saying,dont get too sensitive cos most if not all of your youth are going to be playing elsewhere.(And that doesnt necessarily mean they're not good enough).

So in the end it probably just gives you some kind of mental satisfaction that Chelsea youth are doing well but thats about it.

by Red Alert Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:49 am

There's nothing wrong with the way their academy is run though.

Just out of random curiosity, who's exactly came out of your academy and currently in your Starting XI? Bar Marchisio and Giovinco... I doubt there's many.

by Kick Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:50 am

Surag wrote:
Kick wrote:Also, Youth systems are not all about promoting every player, it's more about whats best for the player even if that means they move on. Lastly, even if they don't make it with us, as long as we sell them for more than we bought them, what does it matter?

"Even if they dont make it with us" that probably explains things because the way the team is structured(i genuinely wonder if Chelsea even need a youth academy sometimes) at the moment its difficult for even one single player to breakthrough into the first team.When you have a sugar daddy like Roman willing to open his chequebook every now and then ,then the very essence of a youth academy becomes almost redundant.I hope you get what i'm saying,dont get too sensitive cos most if not all of your youth are going to be playing elsewhere.(And that doesnt necessarily mean they're not good enough).

So in the end it probably just gives you some kind of mental satisfaction that Chelsea youth are doing well but thats about it.

Quick question, of your starting XI, how many are from your youth team?
let me answer that, two and one of which you sold and then bought back! Laughing

How many do Chelsea have? 1 but if our youth keep progressing like they are, I think we could see 4-5 being in our starting XI in the future.
Seriously, Juve are not that much better. At least our youth are out there winning things. Shown by our 2 Youth FA cup wins in three years and us reaching the final of nextgen.

Aside from Barca, how many teams actually promote more than one or two youth players, not many. Thats not what a youth team is there for. Its there for the players. To give them the best environment so they can grow into the best player they can be, if that is for said club, then all the better for the club, if not, then you can be proud you've done your bit for the future of football.

by S Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:07 pm

Kick wrote:Quick question, of your starting XI, how many are from your youth team?
let me answer that, two and one of which you sold and then bought back!
How many do Chelsea have? 1 but if our youth keep progressing like they are, I think we could see 4-5 being in our starting XI in the future.
Seriously, Juve are not that much better. At least our youth are out there winning things. Shown by our 2 Youth FA cup wins in three years and us reaching the final of nextgen.

Aside from Barca, how many teams actually promote more than one or two youth players, not many. Thats not what a youth team is there for. Its there for the players. To give them the best environment so they can grow into the best player they can be, if that is for said club, then all the better for the club, if not, then you can be proud you've done your bit for the future of football.

Errm.This is not about comparing youth academies here(we're discussing Chelsea here !),are you seriously getting my point ? Rather you're trying to brag about how many youth trophies you've won.Again you are merely reinforcing my point ,Chelsea youth have done well on the domestic and international stage yet there could've been some productive use for the Chelsea first team but there isnt since 1.Hardly any opportunities are given 2.Roman purchases 40m,50m players at will ,even at the slightest of problems he looks towards the transfer window ,seriously with this kind of free-spending policy there isnt any real room for youth players to breakthrough.You are the Real Madrid of England essentially in that sense.

And you're mentioning 1 player breaking through ,really ? And ironically that was much before the takeover from Roman.

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