quite a lot teams that proved their power and keep doing so are participants at the moment's Champions league

schalke,shakhtar,malaga or any of the less powerful clubs
do you see any of them reaching the semis, the final or even win it?

Malaga definitely

the region of Ruhr will deffo dominate football again

Schalke and Dortmund for the final!

A Revierderby for the big ear cup would be fun!

For me Malaga definetley no.. They didn't impress me in the Ac Milan match. Milan will beat them home.. As for Shakhtar and Dortmund.. They looked fabulous, i was shocked how shakhtar dominated chelsea, their quality in midfield and atack it's impressing.. Both Juve and Chelsea underestimated the Ukraine side and look what happened.. Dortmund it's not a surprise anymore after winning the league against bayern.
I don't think any of them will reach the semi-finals but not because the lack of quality

Shakhtar ripped Chelsea and Juve apart,I would be very afraid of facing them, much better than last season

I hope Shakhtar and Juve go through, and if that happens, i see Shakhtar doing well. Schalke also i see doing well. They both are quality teams that can beat practically anyone on their day. Look at Shakhtar against Juve and Chelsea, plus Barxa a few seasons ago. Look at Schalke a few seasons ago against Inter, now against Dortmund and Arsenal.

I dont consider Dortmund and Juve as darkhorses, but if you do, then i think they will go very far. I hope Juve win it and i think were capable of it.

Schalke and Shaktar IMHO. I'd say Dortmund, but 1) they're not surprising anymore, having won the league twice, and 2) they'll get unlucky again, like they did the past two seasons, and like they were against City in the end.

i think shakhtar wont pose that much of a challenge in the knockouts, they arent that impressive away .

dortmund for me the true dark horses.

SHakhtar, Schalke, and Malaga sounds about right. I wouldn't count Dortmund as dark horses, they are too good to be dark horses.

Lord Hades wrote: i think shakhtar wont pose that much of a challenge in the knockouts, they arent that impressive away .

You obviously didnt watch them vs Juve

Then again, Dortmund hasn't done shit in European football for ages, so maybe they still deserve the title...

Jiopsi wont let me suggest mikhoweveryouspellhisnameian for the most effective player of season

Dortmund winning would still surprise the f out of everyone - nearly everyone makes fun of Bayern losing to an opponent from an inferior league.

I doubt Dortmund will embarrass themselves - Klopp has matured in international competition and while Dortmund still suffers from woeful finishing a full strength Dortmund are definately CL "dark horses", their approach to the Madrid game showed that.

I meant the title of "dark horse", btw, not the UCL title :X

Ganso wrote:Shakhtar ripped Chelsea and Juve apart,I would be very afraid of facing them, much better than last season

Agreed.

Schalke and Arsenal.

Shakthar definitely and PSG for me.

I think Shakhtar, Malaga, Dortmund etc can reach the semis.

Depends on the draw though.

Shakhtar

Porto, should win their group and get a decent draw as a result.

But, a Schalke-Dortmund final would be epic or just even a QF meeting.

Ganso wrote:

Lord Hades wrote: i think shakhtar wont pose that much of a challenge in the knockouts, they arent that impressive away .

You obviously didnt watch them vs Juve

i have, but juve have had a lot of problems of their own , and i definitely think shakhtar are beatable without that much of effort when contrasted with a team like dortmund

Shakhtar for sure.

they are going to stop either us or Juve from getting out of the group.

Shakhtar are beatable but they're looking like a real strong, collective team..

they also have a few high-calibre attackering players like Willian, who are individually good enough to change a game

ioilersrock448 wrote:Porto, should win their group and get a decent draw as a result.

But, a Schalke-Dortmund final would be epic or just even a QF meeting.

Revierderby in the Champion's League? Holy shit, they'd burn down the entire Ruhr area. It would be... Awesome!