Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

RED wrote:He's only weakness is converting the many chances he presents himself with, but he seems to be getting better at that having scored 10 this season.

Not really he still takes bucket loads to score 1 he gets goals because if you have 10 chances by all rights you should score at least one AKA Ronaldo school of finishing.

Just for comparison purposes he has 7 league goals same as Ba and one less than RVP but has taken 63 attempts compared to Ba's 37 and RVP's 30

Suarez is a better player than what he is given credit for, no doubt about it. He is simply not going to put up Falcao's like numbers years after years.

I think he would be awesome playing in an attacking trio like he did at Ajax, left or right. Liverpool sign a real CF and they are a different team all together.

edit: sorry, scratch what i said, i forgot Rodgers still the coach

Michu 6 goals 24 shots

Also in defense of CR7, last season in La Liga he scored roughly every 6 shots, whereas in the EPL Suarez scored roughly every 11, so....

he's a world class attacker, but Liverpool can't rely on him all season to bail them out

most of those 'shots' oyu speak of are taken from long range or half chances by ronaldo, he is actually very clinical and one of the best finishers i have ever seen. his example shouldnt be given to prove suarez a poor finisher.

he may not be the most clinical out there, but i think suarez has been far better in that department than last season, great talent..

RED wrote:Taking my United specs off. The guy is such a talent, he's dribbling skills and the way he can beat several defenders is mesmerizing. One of the best players in prem, no doubt about it. He's only weakness is converting the many chances he presents himself with, but he seems to be getting better at that having scored 10 this season.

Why does he have to be such a detestable person. If he wasn't such a c***, he would be lauded by every none LFC fan.

He's always been a c*** though, and you still loved him when he was at Ajax.

Thanks for the honesty though. You do seem like a great poster when you speak as a neutral.

Lord Hades wrote: most of those 'shots' oyu speak of are taken from long range or half chances by ronaldo, he is actually very clinical and one of the best finishers i have ever seen. his example shouldnt be given to prove suarez a poor finisher.

he may not be the most clinical out there, but i think suarez has been far better in that department than last season, great talent..

Ronaldo is far superior in terms of finishing but you can't be one-sided like that.

Suarez takes long shots and "half chances" most of the time too...

Swanhends wrote:Michu 6 goals 24 shots

Also in defense of CR7, last season in La Liga he scored roughly every 6 shots, whereas in the EPL Suarez scored roughly every 11, so....

No one said his finishing is as good as Ronaldo's. Every person on this forum has rated him but has stated that his finishing lets him down. Ronaldo... or Michu should be nowhere near this thread.

The problem is people are seeing only stats, Usual.

95% of Suarez's shots are shots from tight angles where he has already beaten a man/men and at that point there is no turning back, He has to shoot and the half chances are saved by the keeper.

But yeah he is a shit finisher.

I know Nishy, people talk about stats like Suarez misses 11 sitters for every time he scores.

Statistics are like mini skirts what they reveal is suggestive what they conceal is important

The Liverpool fans on here are some of the biggest homers I've seen in all of sports.

First Suarez is the 2nd best dribbler in the World, to Suarez hardly dives, now Suarez doesn't miss sitters.

You could make a case his poor shooting percentage matters little because half of those chances are created by his own doing (similar to Ronaldo) but "he doesn't miss sitters"?!?!?!

FFS!

Gil no one here said that he doesn't miss sitters. All we said was that majority of his missed shots aren't sitters like many people make 'em out to be.

Look at the last line of my post ffs before making things up Gil.

He is a shit finisher, But more than half of the chances he creates for himself are so tight that 90% they will be saved.

Nishank wrote:The problem is people are seeing only stats, Usual.

95% of Suarez's shots are shots from tight angles where he has already beaten a man/men and at that point there is no turning back, He has to shoot and the half chances are saved by the keeper.

But yeah he is a shit finisher.

Suarez must have terrible vision and pitch-awareness if all his shots are from tight angles

Swanhends wrote:

Nishank wrote:The problem is people are seeing only stats, Usual.

95% of Suarez's shots are shots from tight angles where he has already beaten a man/men and at that point there is no turning back, He has to shoot and the half chances are saved by the keeper.

But yeah he is a shit finisher.

Suarez must have terrible vision and pitch-awareness if all his shots are from tight angles

You must have a terrible understanding of the game if you believe that to be the case.















Man, now I see why so many people love to use fallacious arguments, it's fun to completely ignore logic and come across as ignorant/trollish.

My friends, Red, Nishy, Messiah, YNWA I'm surprised you have actually found the patience to deal with such cherry picked false dilemmas as its rare for me to see a thread surrounded by such informal and boring circular reasoning as this post being my first on this thread is a testament to that.

Obviously Suarez garners polar opposites in opinions (a politically correct way to state this) so you will not get the best of opinions based on the confirmation biases and various illogical reasons within this thread.

I for one applaud you patience and temper and frankly ask not for you to waste any more time on this as these "how highly do you rate" threads almost always turn out like this, let alone for such controversial players.

I have nothing more to say that hasn't been said but I will say for all of Suarez's poor gamesmanship he is a god damn world class player in a rare mould who also happens to come across as quite an intelligent player off the field.

among the forwards i think only messi,c.ronaldo and zlatan are surely better than him.

Swanhends

Two posts and nothing about the topic.

Gil wrote:The Liverpool fans on here are some of the biggest homers I've seen in all of sports.

First Suarez is the 2nd best dribbler in the World, to Suarez hardly dives, now Suarez doesn't miss sitters.

You could make a case his poor shooting percentage matters little because half of those chances are created by his own doing (similar to Ronaldo) but "he doesn't miss sitters"?!?!?!

FFS!

Who said "he doesn't miss sitters"?? Derp.

On a side note, how's the love fest with Torres? And is it true you really rate Hazard over David Silva?

Nishank wrote:Swanhends

Two posts and nothing about the topic.

He's a changed man. He used to talk about football but now just posts to 'entertain' his GL buddies.