Messi free kick reality

by Real Kandahar Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:56 pm

i don't wanna be a hater, nor a whiner, i praised his goals all the times, but NEUTRAL fans (non barca/ madrid) please judge this action and tell me if that's worthy of being called cheating or not?

by Kick Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:10 pm

My two cents.

I wouldn't allow that. Moving it a little bit is ok but that much isn't right.

That being said, If you're going to crack down on that you need to make sure all free kicks are taken from the exact location. I saw one free kick taken against us this weekend where the marks where the guy fell over were visable, yet he took the free kick about 5-10m from that spot.

Either do that spray thing in the MLS or not bother.

BTW, was he moving it back because of the wall? if he was, the wall shouldn't have been moving forward and both are as bad as each other. Laughing

by Onyx Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:16 pm

I'm sure players move it a little bit all time, however that seems a bit too much.

Is there actually a distance the ball can be moved?

by CBarca Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:16 pm

Looked like he was moving it to the side IMO.

At least he didn't try moving it 5 yards forward like everyone does (me included lol), but a ref can't have his eyes on that all the time, especially with the wall trying to inch as far forward as possible. I think implementing invisible spray or whatever it is would be a best case scenario for all involved.

by McAgger Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:21 pm

He was moving it to the side so he'd have a better angle to beat the wall Laughing

by white_star Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:22 pm

People will do anything to discredit Messi lol.

by The Sanchez Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:26 pm

Moved to the side. If there is no advantage to the attacking team then by all means continue on... however if there is significant advantage then the referee should deal with the issue. Saying that the referee cannot always have his eye on the ball. One of the lineman may see it though most players get away with it. Should they get away with it? No. Moved sideways imo though my opinion probably won't count as the author only wants Non Barca or Madrid fans commenting.

by CBarca Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:32 pm

Moving it to the side most certainly does count. It's not as bad as pushing it forwards x amount of meters, but why do you think Messi moved it so much to the side? Gives him an advantage.

Refs need that referee spray, will help immensely IMO.

by Real Kandahar Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:44 pm

yeah , it's 50/50 for me, i think the bend and the correct power put on the shot was in itself a work of art, but just wondered how much such "sideways" movement would have helped, nothing taken away from Messi ofc...

by The Sanchez Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:49 pm

Real Kandahar wrote:yeah , it's 50/50 for me, i think the bend and the correct power put on the shot was in itself a work of art, but just wondered how much such "sideways" movement would have helped, nothing taken away from Messi ofc...

Indeed. There is still advantage though nothing or no one can take it with the perfection of that hit...

by Muzza Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:50 pm

doesnt matter, was always going to go in.

by BarrileteCosmico Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:10 pm

There's no good reason for not implementing spray sport-wide.

by Dnmac4 Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:21 pm

Not only that.sometimes players literally run 20 yards ahead of where the ball went out of bounds and throw it in there to gain an advantage and no one says anything.

It's just hilarious this poster uses this scenario when this happens in almost every single game.

What a Joke.

And BTW the reason they don't use the spray is because Europe didn't come up with the idea and there too damn stubborn to admit the South Americans made a really good change for the betterment of the game.

Had a European league been the first to implement it every league in Europe would use the spray.

by Dnmac4 Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:24 pm

And LOL at the dumb title to this thread. What is the Reality of the free kick? That it went in and your butt hurt that Christina's don't anymore?

by Donuts Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:18 pm

If he moved it back he did basically the same thing the wall does which is move up when the Ref is not looking, if both do it fair game

by Zealous Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:17 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:There's no good reason for not implementing spray sport-wide.

I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw this.

Anyway it's not a "huge" deal but the fact that Messi waited till the ref wasn't looking to move the ball gives you the impression that it was wrong Laughing

by Prometheus Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:33 am

oh ffs, really?! its getting to this stage now is it? run out of topics of diving, fouling, theatrics, ref-crowding, uefalona and are now starting with one on messi cheating by moving the ball in a dead ball situation?! this is actually ridiculous, EVERY player does this at some stage, or something similiar, and if you're not aware of that then you really have never played or watched enough games!!

by billionmillion Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:29 am

I dont see any problem. Di Maria was watching Messi all the time. and most probably players in the wall too

by Guest Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:25 am

Zealous wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:There's no good reason for not implementing spray sport-wide.

I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw this.

Anyway it's not a "huge" deal but the fact that Messi waited till the ref wasn't looking to move the ball gives you the impression that it was wrong

by vivabarca38 Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:42 am

I watched the match again a few hours ago and he actually moved twice to the side and twice backwards.Could be an advantage or a disadvantage.

by eelir Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:56 am

billionmillion wrote:I dont see any problem. Di Maria was watching Messi all the time. and most probably players in the wall too

This!!!!
If they (RM players) thought it is such a wrong thing, i doubt they would be silenced when it happened. It is just a Madrid based media making noise about it as they want CR7 to win Balon D'Or, so they are digging in for whatever obscure reason to discredit Messi.

by Raptorgunner Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:31 am

I cant believe Messi cheated, wait what? hmm

by DuringTheWar Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:44 am

sneaky, how he moved it bit by bit. I suppose he needed the advantage or something

by Rebaño Sagrado Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:55 am

vivabarca38 wrote:I watched the match again a few hours ago and he actually moved twice to the side and twice backwards.Could be an advantage or a disadvantage.

Yeah him moving the ball where he likes is a disadvantage Laughing

The spray does work just wastes a lot of time at first, but now it's pretty smooth.

by harhar11 Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:15 am

If thats cheating the entire real madrid player who were in the wall are cheaters as well seeing as they moved the wall closer to messi than its allowed before that and after the ref told them to get back in the same place... :facepalm:

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