Bayern Munich vs Barcelona vs Real Madrid: Head to Head. Were syrictly talking about individual qyality here. Order the 3 of them from best to worst in each position.

Neuer vs Casillas vs Valdes
Lahm vs Alves vs Arbeloa
Boateng vs Ramos vs Puyol
Badstuber vs Pepe vs Pique
Dante vs Albiol/Varane vs Mascherano
Alaba vs Marcelo vs Alba
Rafinha/Contento vs Coentrao vs Adriano
Martinez vs Khedira vs Busquets
Schweinsteiger vs Xavi vs Alonso
Kroos vs Modric vs Fabregas
Muller vs Ozil vs Iniesta
Ribery vs Ronaldo vs Sanchez
Robben vs Di Maria vs Messi
Shaqiri vs Callejon vs Tello/Cuenca
Gomez vs Benzema vs Villa
Mandzukic vs Higuian vs Pedro

Neuer vs Casillas vs Valdes
Lahm vs Alves vs Arbeloa
Boateng vs Ramos vs Puyol
Badstuber vs Pepe vs Pique
Dante vs Albiol/Varane vs Mascherano
Alaba vs Marcelo vs Alba
Rafinha/Contento vs Coentrao vs Adriano
Martinez vs Khedira vs Busquets
Schweinsteiger vs Xavi vs Alonso
Kroos vs Modric vs Fabregas
Muller vs Ozil vs Iniesta
Ribery vs Ronaldo vs Sanchez
Robben vs Di Maria vs Messi
Shaqiri vs Callejon vs Tello/Cuenca
Gomez vs Benzema vs Villa
Mandzukic vs Higuain vs Pedro

Barcelona wins this easily.

Of course FCB will win it. They are leading their league by a margin, too, showing their superiority

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RED = 1st
BLUE = 2nd
Normal Font = 3rd

Neuer vs Casillas vs Valdes
Lahm vs Alves vs Arbeloa
Boateng vs Ramos vs Puyol
Badstuber vs Pepe vs Pique
Dante vs Albiol/Varane vs Mascherano
Alaba vs Marcelo vs Alba
Rafinha/Contento vs Coentrao vs Adriano
Martinez vs Khedira vs Busquets
Schweinsteiger vs Xavi vs Alonso
Kroos vs Modric vs Fabregas
Muller vs Ozil vs Iniesta
Ribery vs Ronaldo vs Sanchez
Robben vs Di Maria vs Messi
Shaqiri vs Callejon vs Tello/Cuenca
Gomez vs Benzema vs Villa
Mandzukic vs Higuian vs Pedro

Neuer vs Casillas vs Valdes
Lahm vs Alves vs Arbeloa
Boateng vs Ramos vs Puyol
Badstuber vs Pepe vs Pique
Dante vs Albiol/Varane vs Mascherano
Alaba vs Marcelo vs Alba
Rafinha/Contento vs Coentrao vs Adriano
Martinez vs Khedira vs Busquets
Schweinsteiger vs Xavi vs Alonso
Kroos vs Modric vs Fabregas
Muller vs Ozil vs Iniesta
Ribery vs Ronaldo vs Sanchez
Robben vs Di Maria vs Messi
Shaqiri vs Callejon vs Tello/Cuenca
Gomez vs Benzema vs Villa
Mandzukic vs Higuian vs Pedro

Toffer Harley wrote:ok let's wait for the post of a certain individual..

and there you go.

Neuer vs Casillas vs Valdes
Lahm vs Alves vs Arbeloa
Boateng vs Ramos vs Puyol
Badstuber vs Pepe vs Pique
Dante vs Albiol/Varane vs Mascherano
Alaba vs Marcelo vs Alba
Rafinha/Contento vs Coentrao vs Adriano
Martinez vs Khedira vs Busquets
Schweinsteiger vs Xavi vs Alonso
Kroos vs Modric vs Fabregas
Muller vs Ozil vs Iniesta
Ribery vs Ronaldo vs Sanchez
Robben vs Di Maria vs Messi
Shaqiri vs Callejon vs Tello/Cuenca
Gomez vs Benzema vs Villa
Mandzukic vs Higuian vs Pedro

First and foremost I will like to say Bayern is missing 3 key players Pizarro, Gustavo and Tymo which is clearly not accepted, Pizarro is better than Higuain and Gustavo is better than Both Barca and Madrid Destructive Midfielders taking them off is a big detriment for Bayern and benefit for Inferior Madrid side.


I have to reshape things here a Bit.

Goalkeeper: Neuer>>Casillas>Valdes(By miles) Bayern
................Starke>>Pinto>>>Adán Bayern

and the winner of Goalkeeper is Bayern, Madrid 2nd, Barca 3rd by distance.


Fullbacks: Lahm>>Alves>>Arbeloa(By Miles) Bayern
............: Alaba>>Mercelo>>Alba Bayern
............: Rafinha>>Montoya>>Albiol Bayern
............: Adriano/Abidal>>Coentrao>>Contento Barca


and the winner of Fullback is Bayern, 2nd is Barca and Madrid 3rd.


Center Back: Puyol>>Boateng>>Ramos Barca
................: Badstuber>>Pepe>>Pique Bayern
................: Dante>>>>>Mascherano>>VaraneBayern
................: Van Buyten>>Carvalho>>Fontàs Bayern



and the winner of Center Back is Bayern, 2nd is Barca and Madrid 3rd.

Defensive Midfielders: Gustavo>>Busquets>>Khedira Bayern
...........................: Alonso>Martinez>>SongMadrid
...........................: Tymo/Can>>Essien>>dos SantosBayern


and the winner of Defensive Midfielder is Bayern, 2nd is Madrid and Barca 3rd.


C/A Midfielder: Xavi>>Schweinsteiger>>Modric Barca
..................: Kroos>>Kaka>>Fabregas Bayern
..................: Iniesta/Tiago>Muller>>Oezil Barca

and the winner of C/A Midfielder is Barca, 2nd is Bayern and Madrid 3rd


Attackers: Ronaldo>>Ribery>>Sanchez Madrid
.............: Messi>>>Robben>>Di Maria Barca
.............: Shaqiri>>Tello/Cuenca>>Callejon Bayern

Evenly matched, no overalls winner



Stiikers: Gomez>>Villa>>Benzema Bayern
.........: Mandzukic>>Higuian>>Pedro Bayern
.........: Pizarro>>>>>Forfeited Bayern

Neuer vs Casillas vs Valdes-> Bayern
Lahm vs Alves vs Arbeloa-> Bayern
Boateng vs Ramos vs Puyol-> Real Madrid
Badstuber vs Pepe vs Pique-> Real Madrid
Dante vs Albiol/Varane vs Mascherano-> Barcelona
Alaba vs Marcelo vs Alba-> Barcelona
Rafinha/Contento vs Coentrao vs Adriano-> Real Madrid
Martinez vs Khedira vs Busquets-> Bayern
Schweinsteiger vs Xavi vs Alonso-> Barcelona
Kroos vs Modric vs Fabregas-> Bayern
Muller vs Ozil vs Iniesta-> Barcelona
Ribery vs Ronaldo vs Sanchez-> Real Madrid
Robben vs Di Maria vs Messi-> Barcelona
Shaqiri vs Callejon vs Tello/Cuenca-> Bayern
Gomez vs Benzema vs Villa-> Bayern
Mandzukic vs Higuian vs Pedro.-> Real Madrid

Barcelona: 5
Bayern: 6
Real Madrid: 5

All these teams are pretty even and this goes on to prove it. The reality of the situation is that Barcelona is still probably the best team in the world even after the Super Cup and El Clasico. La Liga is probably already over but Barcelona are in trouble because their defense is in serious trouble with puyol, Pique and Alves out it could be a bit of a rough stretch for Barca but they should get through it.

My problem in declaring Madrid the best team in the world is that once they start winning a few games they become the "best team in the world" and now all of their ego's become inflated. There are just to many players who have the desire to be in the spotlight and a coach who is always coming up with something outrageous. You could see this after they won the super cup they cruised into the season and now are in trouble. It also happened last year in the CL when they easily destroyed everyone in their path and when they met Bayern it was sort of assumed they would do the same.

When criticizing Bayern, you have to criticize Schweinsteiger and Lahm and if they really have the capabilities to actually lead a team to a major trophy. However, after the BATE Borisov game it has become known once again that Schweinsteiger is the most important player in the world. Do I think that Bayern will win the CL this year? No I don't, I still believe that Barcelona will win it this year. Is there the potential for Bayern to win the CL and be the best in Europe? For sure.

If we are getting at who is the best team in the world I think it's Barcelona but I think Chelsea and Juventus should be involved too.

Jack Daniels wrote:RED = 1st
BLUE = 2nd
Normal Font = 3rd

Neuer vs Casillas vs Valdes
Lahm vs Alves vs Arbeloa
Boateng vs Ramos vs Puyol
Badstuber vs Pepe vs Pique
Dante vs Albiol/Varane vs Mascherano
Alaba vs Marcelo vs Alba
Rafinha/Contento vs Coentrao vs Adriano
Martinez vs Khedira vs Busquets
Schweinsteiger vs Xavi vs Alonso
Kroos vs Modric vs Fabregas
Muller vs Ozil vs Iniesta
Ribery vs Ronaldo vs Sanchez
Robben vs Di Maria vs Messi
Shaqiri vs Callejon vs Tello/Cuenca
Gomez vs Benzema vs Villa
Mandzukic vs Higuian vs Pedro

this

Chelsea and Juventus should definitely be contenders, I can't tell who is better between Chelsea and Madrid and Juventus and Dortmund.

Puyol atm is no way better than Ramos, he isn't 31 anymore guys... he's past it and Ramos is a top 5 CB atm.

The Messiah wrote:Chelsea and Juventus should definitely be contenders, I can't tell who is better between Chelsea and Madrid and Juventus and Dortmund.

you're very right... Bayern, Barcelona and Madrid is probably top 3 (no order).. followed by Chelsea, Juve, Dortmund, Utd.. Anyone in these 7 teams can beat anyone.

Alright so throw in a Juve/Chelsea/Dortmund one.

Buffon vs Cech vs Weidenfeller
Lichsteiner vs Ivanovic vs Piszczek
Chiellini vs Luiz vs Hummels
Barzagli vs Terry vs Subotic
Bonucci vs Cahill vs Santana
Asamoah vs Cole vs Schmelzer
Marchisio vs Ramires vs Bender
Vidal vs Mikel vs Kehl
Pirlo vs Lampard vs Gundogan
Giovinco vs Mata vs Gotze
Vucinic vs Hazard vs Reus
Quagliarella vs Torres vs Lewandowski

And then compare these to the Bayern/Barca/Madrid ones.

Buffon
Lichsteiner
Hummels
Subotic
Cahill
Cole
Marchisio
Pirlo
Gotze
Hazard
Hard one, but I go with Torres.

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Neuer vs Casillas vs Valdes
Lahm vs Alves vs Arbeloa
Boateng vs Ramos vs Puyol
Badstuber vs Pepe vs Pique
Dante vs Albiol/Varane vs Mascherano
Alaba vs Marcelo vs Alba
Rafinha/Contento vs Coentrao vs Adriano
Martinez vs Khedira vs Busquets
Schweinsteiger vs Xavi vs Alonso
Kroos vs Modric vs Fabregas
Muller vs Ozil vs Iniesta
Ribery vs Ronaldo vs Sanchez
Robben vs Di Maria vs Messi
Shaqiri vs Callejon vs Tello/Cuenca
Gomez vs Benzema vs Villa
Mandzukic vs Higuain vs Pedro

Buffon vs Cech vs Weidenfeller
Lichsteiner vs Ivanovic vs Piszczek
Chiellini vs Luiz vs Hummels
Barzagli vs Terry vs Subotic
Bonucci vs Cahill vs Santana
Asamoah vs Cole vs Schmelzer
Marchisio vs Ramires vs Bender
Vidal vs Mikel vs Kehl
Pirlo vs Lampard vs Gundogan
Giovinco vs Mata vs Gotze
Vucinic vs Hazard vs Reus
Quagliarella vs Torres vs Lewandowski

Neuer, Lahm, Ramos, Pepe, Dante, Marcelo, Coentrao, Martinez, Schweinsteiger/Xavi, Kroos, Iniesta/Ozil, Ronaldo, Messi, Shaqiri, Gomez, Higuian. Normally id say those 4 are all even, but Schweini has been in amazing form this season so he edges Xavi in my ppinion amd Ozil hasnt been off form, but hes been dropped from the starting squad alot thisbseason so he loses points to Iniesta.

Buffon, Lichsteiner, Chiellini, Barzagli, Cahill, Asamoah, Pirlo, Marchisio, Vidal, Gotze, Hazard, Torres. Asamoah has been a revelation this season and has locked down that left eing positoon for Juve for years to come if he continues this form.

Buffon vs Cech vs Weidenfeller
Lichsteiner vs Ivanovic vs Piszczek
Chiellini vs Luiz vs Hummels
Barzagli vs Terry vs Subotic
Bonucci vs Cahill vs Santana
Asamoah vs Cole vs Schmelzer
Marchisio vs Ramires vs Bender
Vidal vs Mikel vs Kehl
Pirlo vs Lampard vs Gundogan
Giovinco vs Mata vs Gotze
Vucinic vs Hazard vs Reus
Quagliarella vs Torres vs Lewandowski

Buffon vs Cech vs Weidenfeller
Lichsteiner vs Ivanovic vs Piszczek
Chiellini vs Luiz vs Hummels
Barzagli vs Terry vs Subotic
Bonucci vs Cahill vs Santana
Asamoah vs Cole vs Schmelzer
Marchisio vs Ramires vs Bender
Vidal vs Mikel vs Kehl
Pirlo vs Lampard vs Gundogan
Giovinco vs Mata vs Gotze
Vucinic vs Hazard vs Reus
Quagliarella vs Torres vs Lewandowski

If I had to make a team -

Cech
Piszczek Hummels Barzagli Cole
Gundogan Vidal
Goetze
Reus Hazard/Torres Mata

Hazard or Torres as False 9.

I think Gundogan is a SUPER SUPER SUPER talent. Great Vision. Very good CB. He might turn out to better than Sahin. Vidal is a Super Duper DM with great skills, he is someone who can be a CM. Both of them can defend which allows Goetze to play in the attacking mid-field.

Reus-Mata in the wings with Hazard/Torres as a False 9.

IMO if Dortmund can hold on to Reus-Goetze-Hummels-Gundogan-Bender as the backbone of the team & add more Quality they will be dominate Europe.

Reus is IMO the best player in the 3 teams combined & Goetze is a huge talent.

Juve have a great team too. I rate almost all their player bar their ST very VERY highly. Good Defense & Mid-field.

Chelsea I like their Attacking Trio. Solid Guys. But they have a Very Mediocre CM+DM combo with No Steel & Boss in the mid-field. Compare Mikel-Lampard vs Vidal-Pirlo, you see a HUGE GULF in Quality. Lampard does know how to play CM neither does Ramires & Mikel isnt really that awesome.

ON a Side Note - Chelsea have got another huge talent in De Bruyne. I think he will bench Hazard to form a Mata-De Bruyne-Oscar trio. Whenever I see Belgium play De Bruyne stands out as better than Hazard

Frack it, I'm making a beast team:

What does this have to do with Barca/ Madrid.

At least title your threads properly.

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Neuer vs Casillas vs Valdes
Lahm vs Alves vs [iArbeloa
Boateng vs Ramos vs Puyol
Badstuber vs Pepe vs Pique
Dante vs Albiol/Varane vs Mascherano
Alaba vs Marcelo vs Alba
Rafinha/Contento vs Coentrao vs Adriano
Martinez vs Khedira vs Busquets
Schweinsteiger vs Xavi vs Alonso
Kroos vs Modric vs Fabregas
Muller vs Ozil vs Iniesta
Ribery vs Ronaldo vs Sanchez
Robben vs Di Maria vs Messi
Shaqiri vs Callejon vs Tello/Cuenca
Gomez vs Benzema vs Villa
Mandzukic vs Higuian vs Pedro

Combined Eleven(players who i rated at #1 in this list)


Buffon vs Cech vs Weidenfeller
Lichsteiner vs Ivanovic vs Piszczek
Chiellini vs Luiz vs Hummels
Barzagli vs Terry vs Subotic
Bonucci vs Cahill vs Santana
Asamoah vs Cole vs Schmelzer
Marchisio vs Ramires vs Bender
Vidal vs Mikel vs Kehl
Pirlo vs Lampard vs Gundogan
Giovinco vs Mata vs Gotze
Vucinic vs Hazard vs Reus
Quagliarella vs Torres vs Lewandowski


Combined Eleven

Hummels-Subotic is way better than Terry-Luiz and Chiellini-Barzagli/Bonucci