Re: Is Ibrahimovic the most naturally gifted striker in the world?

by Valkyrja Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:26 am

arnoldinho wrote:
Kizu wrote:His first touch is orgasmic, and his movements as well. The most complete attacking player along with CR7, and the most talented after Messi.
If Ibra would have had Messi's physique he would be the best no doubt.

Do you mean attitude? Cos Ibrahimovic is superior to Messi in almost every way when it comes down to physical appearance on the pitch. He is tall, strong, and despite these things, quick off the line and has an impressive top speed with the ball. Also has great balance and agility(so does Messi, but he has lower center of gravity).

I mean acceleration, balance, pace, agility.

by Vlad the Impaler Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:36 am

Kizu wrote:
arnoldinho wrote:
Kizu wrote:His first touch is orgasmic, and his movements as well. The most complete attacking player along with CR7, and the most talented after Messi.
If Ibra would have had Messi's physique he would be the best no doubt.

Do you mean attitude? Cos Ibrahimovic is superior to Messi in almost every way when it comes down to physical appearance on the pitch. He is tall, strong, and despite these things, quick off the line and has an impressive top speed with the ball. Also has great balance and agility(so does Messi, but he has lower center of gravity).

I mean acceleration, balance, pace, agility.

Ibra has fabulous acceleration, balance, pace & agility.Seriously... Smile

Look there at 3:43

by Guest Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:57 pm

vlafy wrote:
Kizu wrote:
arnoldinho wrote:
Kizu wrote:His first touch is orgasmic, and his movements as well. The most complete attacking player along with CR7, and the most talented after Messi.
If Ibra would have had Messi's physique he would be the best no doubt.

Do you mean attitude? Cos Ibrahimovic is superior to Messi in almost every way when it comes down to physical appearance on the pitch. He is tall, strong, and despite these things, quick off the line and has an impressive top speed with the ball. Also has great balance and agility(so does Messi, but he has lower center of gravity).

I mean acceleration, balance, pace, agility.

Ibra has fabulous acceleration, balance, pace & agility.Seriously...

Look there at 3:43

Even I can make Heskey look good on youtube ffs

by guest7 Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:14 pm

chinomaster182 wrote:I'm not sure "naturally gifted" is the best way to describe his technique. If you've read up on his career, he practiced nonstop when he was young, giving candy to little kids if they could take the ball from his feet. I'm sure he was amazing even starting up, but he worked a ton to get to where he is now.

If you're asking if he has the best technique of any center forward in the game then i would highly agree. His first touch is the best on the planet imo, the guy is amazing to watch with the ball at his feet, like he had a magnet on both shoes. The way he manipulates a football, you only see that kind of skill in extremely gifted players like Ronaldinho, Ronaldo9, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel.

At the peak of his career, he was breathtaking if you like showmanship. He's never been extremely effective like CR7 or Messi, but he embodies the art of football.

I believe he is the third best player of this generation, behind Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi, and i also believe he has already done enough to be considered one of the all time greats.

My view aswell. Great post +1

Ibra with Messi's body would be a monster

by Eivindo Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:37 pm

Perhaps so. Only thing I would change is his bodyweight. Strip him down 7 kg so he can run more that lazy bastard.

by Valkyrja Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:15 pm

Eivindo wrote:Perhaps so. Only thing I would change is his bodyweight. Strip him down 7 kg so he can run more that lazy bastard.

He's too tall, but for that height, his attributes are incredible.

by billionmillion Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:22 pm

Ibra with Messi's height would not be messi. its his height helps him cover the balls and its his long legs helps him to do his skills. Running with the ball at speed through defenders is not his job. with short height he would be agile but not a sprinter through defenders. he would be more like xavi and pirlo

But Henry with short height would be great sprinter through people

by lenear1030 Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:25 am

naturally gifted? probably not.

technically gifted? probably.

by Sushi Master Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:32 am

Striker? As in guy who gets a shit load of goals in? Hell no, there are many better than him.

by Eivindo Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:32 am

billionmillion wrote:Ibra with Messi's height would not be messi. its his height helps him cover the balls and its his long legs helps him to do his skills. Running with the ball at speed through defenders is not his job. with short height he would be agile but not a sprinter through defenders. he would be more like xavi and pirlo

But Henry with short height would be great sprinter through people

You clearly havent seen Ibra play when he was younger. He was skinny, but still strong and even quicker. It was when joining Juve that they made him about 100 kg of muscle. Read his book :coffee:

by vivabarca38 Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:09 pm

Clueless guys on here,Hello,Dimitar Berbatov.

by Lord Awesome Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:31 am

I personally like his style. Jovetic to be his indirect successor.

by McAgger Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:27 am

Lord Hispano wrote:I personally like his style. Jovetic to be his indirect successor.

Agreed with that whole statement. I think he's being underrated here in GL. The guy oozes class, it was only that season ending injury that stalled his development a little, this season he will cement his place ass WC player in the world.

by Onyx Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:31 pm

How about Benzema?

by samcooke1991 Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:45 pm

Most naturally gifted, yes bar Messi , his dribbling and touch are phenomenal. Just a shame that he doesn't have the concentration and attitude to go with it

by Vlad the Impaler Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:52 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:How about Benzema?

In my opinion, Benzema has good ball control, he is strong and he has many abilities that recommends him as being one of the best strikers in the world but he is far away from Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

by juventus101 Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:23 pm

Most gifted target man? Absolutely. Torres a few years ago wouldve given him a run for.his money, but since then it seems Torres has lost it, we rarely see the Torres of old shine, though admittedly when it does its amazing. If it was still 2009 I would've said Torres.

by Guest Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:59 pm

juventus101 wrote:Most gifted target man? Absolutely. Torres a few years ago wouldve given him a run for.his money, but since then it seems Torres has lost it, we rarely see the Torres of old shine, though admittedly when it does its amazing. If it was still 2009 I would've said Torres.

Ibra isn't a target man. Classifying him as a target man means ignoring most of his best qualities.

by Onyx Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:36 pm

Van Persie? hmm

by chinomaster182 Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:33 pm

His best goals in each team IMO

Ajax
https://youtu.be/ZgqsaDnsEq8

JuBe
https://youtu.be/7-22cSRjizg

Honor and Grace
https://youtu.be/Qcbx_4BIAgg

Barca
https://youtu.be/jaV4GvQTqrA

Bilan
https://youtu.be/2iTwnL1pQus

QSG
https://youtu.be/fWt6HlQAzGI

by harhar11 Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:25 pm

Kizu wrote:His first touch is orgasmic, and his movements as well. The most complete attacking player along with CR7, and the most talented after Messi.
If Ibra would have had Messi's physique he would be the best no doubt.

Ibra is more complete than Cristiano Ronaldo.

And Ibra with Messi's physique would lose some of his qualities, like his strenght...

by SchinnerC Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:00 pm

How is Torres even in this conversation? Steven Fletcher is more technical than him and yes that's not an insult.

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