Re: Francesc 'Tito' Vilanova: The Disciple

by The Franchise Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:46 pm

There really no arguing with some people.

If you dont want to listen to our opinions, thats nice, but I will point to the titles we won..for that, you have no comeback.

by danyjr Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:33 pm

Yes titles you won this year, such as La Liga and Champions League. I have no comeback for those.

by The Franchise Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:03 pm

Clever.

Years of titles following one model.

One year of no sucesss.

= Change

SMH

by danyjr Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:33 pm

No one said change. Improvement. Modification. Not revolution, but evolution. These are vital to any team, business or company that consistently wins and wants to build its future. Football evolves over time and so do teams that want to win, now if you want to be the old guy that doesn't want to learn how to use computers or a mobile phone because he thinks his methods are the best of the best, so be it, but I'm sure the coaches will spot the shortcomings as they did try this season. Really no point in arguing this any more as none of us are managing this team. I'll just wait and see what happens next season.

by The Franchise Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:56 pm

No. Just no.

We arent going to, and shouldnt, change because basically...Messi mised a penalty.

Because if he scored it and we made the final, nobody says a word.

And yes, maybe you should drop it. Sorta like I suggested on the first page.

by Brady2Moss Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:25 am

Since we are playing these "IF" games, I might as well chip in.

If Barca weren't awarded that second dubious penalty against Milan, they wouldn't even have played in the semi against Chelsea.

If Drogba didn't go to the ground, there would have been no penalty in the first place.

I'm just saying...

by The Franchise Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:51 am

Nah, that doesnt work. Because your talking about changing something which has proven itself.

Your logic of, we didnt win and therefore need to change is faulty..because its based on the assumption we didnt do enough, which is false.

Stop looking at results and start looking to how the results came about.

by The Sanchez Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:10 am

I thought this was about Tito?? scratch

Apparently his main aim is to get Alba. Surely no though he has got the right idea in getting a left back...

by Brady2Moss Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:50 pm

The Franchise wrote:Nah, that doesnt work. Because your talking about changing something which has proven itself.

Your logic of, we didnt win and therefore need to change is faulty..because its based on the assumption we didnt do enough, which is false.

Stop looking at results and start looking to how the results came about.

dude, it's hard for me to take somebody seriously, who employs logical fallacies to strengthen their arguments. You keep mentioning that Barca would have won, IF Messi scored that penalty and what not. Well, how do you know that? Is you a wizard, perhaps? Nothing is written in stone buddy...

I bet you thought Barca was surely gonna win when Iniesta scored the second goal for Barca, didn't ya? Wink

by The Sanchez Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:43 pm

Brady2Moss wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Nah, that doesnt work. Because your talking about changing something which has proven itself.

Your logic of, we didnt win and therefore need to change is faulty..because its based on the assumption we didnt do enough, which is false.

Stop looking at results and start looking to how the results came about.

Your talking to an expert here man... When you are watching a game, you are always your team is going to win...
dude, it's hard for me to take somebody seriously, who employs logical fallacies to strengthen their arguments. You keep mentioning that Barca would have won, IF Messi scored that penalty and what not. Well, how do you know that? Is you a wizard, perhaps? Nothing is written in stone buddy...

I bet you thought Barca was surely gonna win when Iniesta scored the second goal for Barca, didn't ya?

by alexjanosik Tue May 01, 2012 4:21 am

Lest ignore the wisdom of Cruyff and Guardiola.Lets ignore our philosohy of play and actually mix it up cause Brady The Clueless Moss thinks so.
Yep,sounds like a plan.

by CBarca Tue May 01, 2012 4:36 am

Brady2Moss wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Nah, that doesnt work. Because your talking about changing something which has proven itself.

Your logic of, we didnt win and therefore need to change is faulty..because its based on the assumption we didnt do enough, which is false.

Stop looking at results and start looking to how the results came about.

dude, it's hard for me to take somebody seriously, who employs logical fallacies to strengthen their arguments. You keep mentioning that Barca would have won, IF Messi scored that penalty and what not. Well, how do you know that? Is you a wizard, perhaps? Nothing is written in stone buddy...

I bet you thought Barca was surely gonna win when Iniesta scored the second goal for Barca, didn't ya?

Fact of the matter is-

Barca have won countless trophies the past 4 years with Pep employing this great philosophy. A philosophy and a style doesn't have to work all the time to signal change...most of the time when it fails, it's an isolated case-like this Chelsea game, which both legs were Barca losing from not finishing more than anything else.

The Barcelona system hasn't failed us in four years. It didn't even fail us against Chelsea. We failed us by not finishing our chances.

Again- countless trophies and major awards with this style and philosophy, while being the best team in the world and arguably in history.

Why is it hard to understand that people don't want to change styles or mix it up? We don't want to because it's been proven to be amazingly effective- and to back that up, the trophies and major titles. The team wins often with this- one isolated incident doesn't mean jump ship.

Barca win with our current style and philosophy. That is not debatable. Why change and shift from a winning formula? Sure evolution is ok, improvements are ok and we've seen that over the years from Pep, but the core is always the same. Let's not change that.

Not to mention it's the most beautiful and amazing brand of football I've seen in my life and I'm honored to watch it.

by The Franchise Tue May 01, 2012 1:16 pm

Yeah enough of this b.s..clearly going nowhere with clueless people.

Dont want to see another post on the subject on this thread.

by kiranr Thu May 03, 2012 12:28 am

Does anyone know how Tito's youth teams played in the past?

by Khaled Fri May 04, 2012 7:35 pm

Fact: Tito Vilanova was the first player to ever score against a team coached by Jose Mourinho, in 1998.

by The Sanchez Sat May 05, 2012 1:16 am

Hopefully he can be the first coach to beat him 10 times in a row Razz

Probably won't happen...

by Albiceleste Wed May 16, 2012 5:08 am

by The Sanchez Wed May 16, 2012 8:50 am

I guess and well Enrique is gone as well from Roma though chances of him being assistant coach is very slim. 1m is good for an assistant coach imo

by guest7 Thu May 17, 2012 2:40 pm

Cesc Fabregas "I know Tito will want to contribute his own personal touch. And I also know that he had an influence on my signing!"

Now you know what to expect Razz

by BarrileteCosmico Sun May 20, 2012 2:08 am

Sport is claiming in one of their quote-less articles that Tito wants Keita out and might even give him away for free.

If true, Tito :bow:

by FCBarça Sun May 20, 2012 5:10 am

Well, the bit I read suggested that Keita goes for free based on a clause that was not triggered due to insufficient minutes

by BarrileteCosmico Sun May 20, 2012 5:42 am

I find it hard to believe that he has insufficient minutes, he has been featured prominently.

by CBarca Sun May 20, 2012 5:56 am

FCBarça wrote:Well, the bit I read suggested that Keita goes for free based on a clause that was not triggered due to insufficient minutes

MAJOR LOL :lol!:

by The Sanchez Sun May 20, 2012 7:45 am

Clubs want him for 15m. If so sell him! Good work Tito if true

by FCBarça Sun May 20, 2012 12:00 pm

Keita's clause discussed Rolling Eyes

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20120520/fc-barcelona/keita-prioriza-quedarse-en-el-barca-de-vilanova_54295636957.html

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:31 pm

Tito has allegedly reached terms with Barca for a 2 year contract. The contract will be signed next Friday and there will be a press conference immediately after that at 13:00 CET.

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