so after that bullshit loss to uefalona or farcelona ou cheatalona wtv the *bleep* you wanna call those dipshits (which btw im trying my hardest to stay as calm as possible because i have read everything on this forum since i logged on this morning at 7:30 and let me say there some *bleep* bastards barcelona plastic fans that deserve nothing less than my fist in their face.) i am extremely *bleep* pissed about it.

we have to kinda admit that we have a lot of work to do on our squad and i hope B&G just realised that free transfers and other pieces of horse crap from relegation teams just wont do the truck. ffs we are *bleep* MILAN man *bleep* MILAN!!! DO U KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO REPRESENT AC MILAN!??!??!?!??!?!?!? the fact that i have to see some bullshit team rack up 60+% of possesion (even if a lot of it is meaningless) shot between 15-20 times on our goal and we cant muster up not even 5 breaks my *bleep* heart. it shatters it completly. NOBODY DOMINATES AC MILAN, WE ARE THE DOMINATORS and this shit has to *bleep* stop right the *bleep* now!

this is our squad right now:

Squad
1 Marco Amelia Goalkeeper
18 Alberto Aquilani Midfielder
30 Flavio Roma Goalkeeper
22 Antonio Nocerino Midfielder
32 Christian Abbiati Goalkeeper
23 Massimo Ambrosini Midfielder
5 Philippe Mexes Defender
27 Kevin-Prince Boateng Midfielder
13 Alessandro Nesta Defender
28 Urby Emanuelson Midfielder
19 Gianluca Zambrotta Defender
34 Bryan Cristante Midfielder
20 Ignazio Abate Defender
52 Alexander Merkel Midfielder
25 Daniele Bonera Defender
54 Simone Calvano Midfielder
33 Thiago Silva Defender
57 Mattia Valoti Midfielder
52 Mattia De Sciglio Defender
76 Mario Alberto Yepes Defender
7 Alexandre Pato Striker
77 Luca Antonini Defender
9 Filippo Inzaghi Striker
- Ricardo Ferreira Defender
11 Zlatan Ibrahimovic Striker
4 Mark van Bommel Midfielder
21 Maxi López Striker
8 Gennaro Ivan Gattuso Midfielder
56 Simone Andrea Ganz Striker
10 Clarence Seedorf Midfielder
70 Robinho Striker
11 Sulley Ali Muntari Midfielder
92 Stephan El Shaarawy Striker
14 Rodney Strasser Midfielder
99 Antonio Cassano Striker
15 Djamel Mesbah Midfielder
16 Mathieu Flamini Midfielder


its a huge squad with a shit load of deadweight. reason why im posting this is because i read that a lot of people have different opinions on what were missing, what we should buy, etc.. so my question to you Milanistas is

WHAT THE *bleep* ARE WE MISSING TO NOT ONLY COMPETE VS DIVELONA, BUT TO UTTERLY DOMINATE THEM WHENEVER WE *bleep* PLEASE?

couple of things i would like to point out:

- dont start naming any players that in all will cost us 100M it will never happen. this isnt fantasy lineup/squadmaker.. i want it to be serious, like my title says if u want this to be sent to Galliani for him to see. so its got to be credible.


- stick always to a 4-3-1-2 formtion. allegri will never change his formation so please no 4-2-3-1, 4-3-2-1, 4-3-3.

- try and keep the team between 25-28 players MAX!

- POST WHAT U THINK IS NEEDED.. 1 LB+1ST+1MID?? OR 1 CB, 1 LB 1 ST 2 MID?? get my point?

- copy the squad i posted a little bit higher up and modify it to look like this

- HIGLIGHT THE NAME OF THE PLAYER IN RED THAT U WANT TO SEE LEAVE
- ADD TO THE LIST AND HIGHLIGHT THE NAME OF THE PLAYER IN GREEN THAT U WANT TO SEE ARRIVE IN THE SUMMER
-HIGLIGHT THE NAME OF THE PLAYER IN BLUE that has to return to youth squad/loan elsewhere for experience.

post your 4-3-1-2 lineup. with desired subs for each player.

i really would love the opinion of others to see what the *bleep* we really actually are missing.. to dominate teams like Whininglona.

here is my example:

Squad
1 Marco Amelia Goalkeeper
30 Flavio Roma Goalkeeper
32 Christian Abbiati Goalkeeper
60 Piscitelli Goalkeeper
19 Gianluca Zambrotta Defender
5 Philippe Mexes Defender
77 Luca Antonini Defender
30 Didac Vila Defender
13 Alessandro Nesta Defender
20 Ignazio Abate Defender
52 Mattia De Sciglio Defender
- Ricardo Ferreira Defender
15 Djamel Mesbah Defender
76 Mario Alberto Yepes Defender
33 Thiago Silva Defender
25 Daniele Bonera Defender
18 Alberto Aquilani Midfielder
23 Massimo Ambrosini Midfielder
22 Antonio Nocerino Midfielder
27 Kevin-Prince Boateng Midfielder
28 Urby Emanuelson Midfielder
34 Bryan Cristante Midfielder
52 Alexander Merkel Midfielder
?? Kwadho Asamoah Midfielder
54 Simone Calvano Midfielder
16 Mathieu Flamini Midfielder
[color=blue]57 Mattia Valoti Midfielder
10 Clarence Seedorf Midfielder
4 Mark van Bommel Midfielder
11 Sulley Ali Muntari Midfielder
?? AM OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL)
14 Rodney Strasser Midfielder
8 Gennaro Ivan Gattuso Midfielder
21 Maxi López Striker
92 Stephan El Shaarawy Striker
7 Alexandre Pato Striker
?? ST OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL) SOMEBODY IS THE STYLE OF MAXI BUT WITH WAYYYYY MORE TALENT
9 Filippo Inzaghi Striker i love you so much but its reality
11 Zlatan Ibrahimovic Striker
56 Simone Andrea Ganz Striker
70 Robinho Striker
99 Antonio Cassano Striker


4-3-1-2

Abbiati

Abate - Nesta (if he doesnt retire) - T.Silva - Didac
Aquilani - NEW DM - Boateng (HAS TO LEARN TO PLAY IN 3 MAN MID)
NEW AM
Ibrahimovic - NEW ST

SUBS:

Amelia,Piscitelli,Antonini,Mexes,Yepes, NEW CB, Mesbah, Nocerino, Emmanuelson, Merkel, Van Bommel, El Shaarawy,Cassano,Robinho/Pato

so for me, all Milan is missing is

1 CB starter/good sub material
1 powerhouse DM
1 AM with all the hustle and tussle of a boateng but an exquisite passer and an excellent shooter.
1 sexy striker with the abilities of an Ibra but who stays in the box while ibra plays ''pivot'' role

unfortunately 1 of Robinho or Pato must go due to overcrowding in the ST departement and the fact we need to raise funds for transfers


with this, Milan rules the world no question asked.

i would have to say that its probably between a 50-60M$ investment though. (25-30M if u include pato or robinho sale)

1 Marco Amelia Goalkeeper
18 Alberto Aquilani Midfielder
30 Flavio Roma Goalkeeper
22 Antonio Nocerino Midfielder
32 Christian Abbiati Goalkeeper
23 Massimo Ambrosini Midfielder
5 Philippe Mexes Defender
27 Kevin-Prince Boateng Midfielder
13 Alessandro Nesta Defender
28 Urby Emanuelson Midfielder
19 Gianluca Zambrotta Defender
34 Bryan Cristante Midfielder
20 Ignazio Abate Defender
52 Alexander Merkel Midfielder
25 Daniele Bonera Defender
54 Simone Calvano Midfielder
33 Thiago Silva Defender
57 Mattia Valoti Midfielder
52 Mattia De Sciglio Defender
76 Mario Alberto Yepes Defender
7 Alexandre Pato Striker
77 Luca Antonini Defender
9 Filippo Inzaghi Striker
- Ricardo Ferreira Defender
11 Zlatan Ibrahimovic Striker
4 Mark van Bommel Midfielder
21 Maxi López Striker
8 Gennaro Ivan Gattuso Midfielder
56 Simone Andrea Ganz Striker
10 Clarence Seedorf Midfielder
70 Robinho Striker
11 Sulley Ali Muntari Midfielder
92 Stephan El Shaarawy Striker
14 Rodney Strasser Midfielder
99 Antonio Cassano Striker
15 Djamel Mesbah Midfielder
16 Mathieu Flamini Midfielder

Red players need to leave. What we need to add is simple.

2 MID
One of them needs to be a creative masterclass (ala Ganso) and the other needs to be another enginge workhorse like Nocerino. Aquilani is a good midfielder but we need someone to lead the mid, and Aqu doesn't have those qualities. So we need at least one worldclass midfielder.

1 LB

We need a quality LB, one that will make us assured in this position. I've never seen Ogbonna play but I hear he is good.

1 ST (maybe)

If Pato leaves, or if his fitness does not improve, we need to replace him. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing Robinho leave. For whom? I'm not too sure. I can't wait till Balotelli wears the red and black but he will be too expensive, is too immature, and doesn't play the same way as robinho or Pato. Perhaps we can use SES more and develop him more into a starter, with Cassano on the bench.

Our team has a good core but the old guard need to leave. And with that we need a WC signing or two, especially in midfield. Our midfield is constantly our weakest area as can be seen vs Arsenal and Barcelona. The midfield is where the game is won and lost. We need better players.

ur right about the fact that aquilani cannot lead the mid, but when i look at the qualities of aquilani i just see pirlo (not in terms of quality lol, just the style) i say if aquilani is surrounded by 2 machines who protect him and run for him (like gattuso used to do for pirlo, just like marchisio and vidal are doing for him) i think thats when were gonna see the reallllll aquilani. and in my eyes boateng and asamoah would be so *bleep* beautiful

Squad
1 Marco Amelia Goalkeeper
18 Alberto Aquilani Midfielder
30 Flavio Roma Goalkeeper???
22 Antonio Nocerino Midfielder
32 Christian Abbiati Goalkeeper
23 Massimo Ambrosini Midfielder???
5 Philippe Mexes Defender
27 Kevin-Prince Boateng Midfielder
13 Alessandro Nesta Defender
28 Urby Emanuelson Midfielder
19 Gianluca Zambrotta Defender???
34 Bryan Cristante Midfielder
20 Ignazio Abate Defender
52 Alexander Merkel Midfielder
25 Daniele Bonera Defender
54 Simone Calvano Midfielder
33 Thiago Silva Defender
57 Mattia Valoti Midfielder
52 Mattia De Sciglio Defender
76 Mario Alberto Yepes Defender???
7 Alexandre Pato Striker
77 Luca Antonini Defender
9 Filippo Inzaghi Striker???
- Ricardo Ferreira Defender
11 Zlatan Ibrahimovic Striker
4 Mark van Bommel Midfielder
21 Maxi López Striker
8 Gennaro Ivan Gattuso Midfielder???
56 Simone Andrea Ganz Striker
10 Clarence Seedorf Midfielder???
70 Robinho Striker
11 Sulley Ali Muntari Midfielder???
92 Stephan El Shaarawy Striker
]b]14 Rodney Strasser Midfielder[/b]
99 Antonio Cassano Striker
15 Djamel Mesbah Midfielder
16 Mathieu Flamini Midfielder ??? [/b]


Out: the Red highlighted ones. not all will leave, but definitely some should, to pave the way to new recruits. it should happen because we stay unchanged, our progress for next season will remain unchanged, further risking the in season performance due to too many veterans.

In: New Forward, AM or LM, versatile fullback.

Youth call ups - with all due respect, only Rodney Strasser, and Alexander Merkel, Didac Villa. since they have a year of experience in another club, i would like to see them prove to directors and coach how good they can come to this squad.

the other new youths, primavera graduates should take a season long loan for experience for further evaluation.

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TonyDaBeast wrote:here is my example:

Squad
1 Marco Amelia Goalkeeper
30 Flavio Roma Goalkeeper
32 Christian Abbiati Goalkeeper
60 Piscitelli Goalkeeper
19 Gianluca Zambrotta Defender
5 Philippe Mexes Defender
77 Luca Antonini Defender
30 Didac Vila Defender
13 Alessandro Nesta Defender
20 Ignazio Abate Defender
52 Mattia De Sciglio Defender
- Ricardo Ferreira Defender
15 Djamel Mesbah Defender
76 Mario Alberto Yepes Defender
33 Thiago Silva Defender
25 Daniele Bonera Defender
18 Alberto Aquilani Midfielder
23 Massimo Ambrosini Midfielder
22 Antonio Nocerino Midfielder
27 Kevin-Prince Boateng Midfielder
28 Urby Emanuelson Midfielder
34 Bryan Cristante Midfielder
52 Alexander Merkel Midfielder
?? Kwadho Asamoah Midfielder
54 Simone Calvano Midfielder
16 Mathieu Flamini Midfielder
[color=blue]57 Mattia Valoti Midfielder
10 Clarence Seedorf Midfielder
4 Mark van Bommel Midfielder
11 Sulley Ali Muntari Midfielder
?? AM OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL)
14 Rodney Strasser Midfielder
8 Gennaro Ivan Gattuso Midfielder
21 Maxi López Striker
92 Stephan El Shaarawy Striker
7 Alexandre Pato Striker
?? ST OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL) SOMEBODY IS THE STYLE OF MAXI BUT WITH WAYYYYY MORE TALENT
9 Filippo Inzaghi Striker i love you so much but its reality
11 Zlatan Ibrahimovic Striker
56 Simone Andrea Ganz Striker
70 Robinho Striker
99 Antonio Cassano Striker

you suggest 11 players should leave Milan . 11. You do realise that it's almost impossible to let go of 11 players & all in one summer . Even if we could , it would only harm the team rather benefit from it. And you replace them with 4(2 unknown so far....) new players and 6 youngsters.!! Half the team wouldn't know each other .. no real chemistry or team base , just become a new M.City. The core of Milan and our most experienced players in Gattuso , Ambrosini ,Inzaghi and Seedorf will be gone and will be replaced by Strasser , Valoti , Ganz and Cristante?!

In other words , your "plan" is pure BS.
If it were to happen , we would fight for 4th-5th-6th place in the standings and Ibra and very possibly Silva might have left next summer because of bad project.

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You don't built a team to dominate Europe or to win Barcelona, you built a team to win the league and become stronger each year , because of a certain project that suits the goals of the team and the abilities of the team.
If the CL is on the cards at some point , then you go for it. No team manifuctured a dream team on paper and went on to win it , none. ( Pes and Fifa doesn't count )

deadweight will go this summer, as there is no place for them like it was last season.

more importantly we still need that lb, creative midfielder and a new dm in change of van bommel

Total impossible everything mentioned here, and we aren't in as bad of shape as mentioned here. Van Bommel, Flamini, Yepes and a possibly Seedorf and Nesta I see leaving this summer. There could be a surpise sale of Pato, but right now it's just speculation. For the departure of Flamini we have Muntari, for Van Bommel it will be Montolivo who comes, Yepes will be Astori. Seedorf and Nesta won't both leave, I can see one of them leaving though. As of right now I see us for sure signing a left back as well, but I don't know who it will be. I think the starting 11 next season will be as follows.
****My ideal left backs would be Balzaretti(experience), Jordi Alba(raw talent) Didac(great potential)
---------------------------Abbiati
Abate----------Mexes------------Silva------------LB

--------------------------Montolivo
----------------Aquilani--------------Nocerino

---------------------------Prince
------------------Cassano------Zlatan

am i the only one who trusts antonini?

I still dream of having a midfield organizer like ganso :vagi:

I know Montolivo coming to Milan is pretty much a done deal. Getting rid of all this "deadweight" as you call it would be a horrible move by Milan like Dante stated and I doubt they would do it anyways. It seems it may be Nesta's last year as well with us which is a huge blow because it will be very tough to replace a player like that. I feel Mexes is doing well but will never amount to Nesta. Anyways I wish we can get a better midfielder than Montolivo but I don't see that happening. A new LB is definitely needed, Antonini has been having a good season so far and I definitely want him to stay (I never thought I would say that:P) My starting 11 would be...

Abbiati
Abate - Mexes - Silva - NEW LB/ Antonini
Montolivo / BETTER DM
Aquilani - Nocerino
Prince
Cassano - Ibra

If we sell Pato we do need someone to replace him, I see Tevez coming if Pato goes.

The youth team players you listed in blue are back ups that cost Milan nothing. Sending them back to the youth team isn't going to help them much.

Just take Paloschi for example. He was a very young player who just sat on the bench but when all our forwards (except Inzaghi) were injured, Paloschi was there to score the fastest debut goal in Serie A history.

And Milan don't have the money to replace 11 players (a whole lineup)

And i'm not against Ganso coming to Milan.

(insert worries about his knee injuries)

I would love to see Ganso playing for Milan, but I don't think we will get him unless he comes for free lol.

ganso has been playing for months without injury problems,i think it was a one off

Why do you have a 35+ man team?

Mr Nick09 wrote:Why do you have a 35+ man team?

some of those listed are just youth players

IMO we need 4-5 players to compete with the likes of Barcelona, Madrid and Bayern consistently. I think we can match them in a one leg tie and win but in general, they have the players that keep them that one step above us. We need a new GK, am I the only one who notices how often abbiati gives the ball straight to the opponents? He has saved us many times, but he still doesn't show the confidence of a world class keeper. Mexes has proved to be a very reliable back up so far, despite his recent error vs Messi and 1 or 2 lapses of concentration. He has had quite a few excellent performances and shows that he is very comfortable on the ball as well. If we get Astori, it will be great competition between those 2. As for LB, hopefully we can get back Didac, but Antonini has been in decent form so we will have to see how he goes. A new DM is a must, and probably the most important signing. With Ambro and Van Bommel coming to an end, we need a replacement to be our midfield general. Aquilani looks like he is the Seedorf replacement whether he is at Seedorf's level or not. Montolivo will be a solid signing in my eyes. As for Robinho how long will we look past his errors and forgive him when he gets on a 2-3 game good run of form. Tevez would be perfect.

*Btw, I have a lot of faith in Merkel and El Shaarawy.. hopefully next season we see them more as regulars.

Out:Yepes,Flamini,Mesbah,Ambro,Seedorf,Inzaghi,MVB,Robinho,Zambrotta,and Roma,and maybe
In:Montolivo,Asamoah,Tevez(or some other WC am/ST) Astori, a new LB(Didac?).

red&blacklegion wrote:Out:Yepes,Flamini,Mesbah,Ambro,Seedorf,Inzaghi,MVB,Robinho,Zambrotta,and Roma,and maybe
In:Montolivo,Asamoah,Tevez(or some other WC am/ST) Astori, a new LB(Didac?).

how about ballo???

I love Ballo but he wouldnt ad much pace to the attack and he aint hardworking.Hell be Ibra No 2.Though. He'll be a good replacement for Ibra in the future .

Dante13 wrote:

TonyDaBeast wrote:here is my example:

Squad
1 Marco Amelia Goalkeeper
30 Flavio Roma Goalkeeper
32 Christian Abbiati Goalkeeper
60 Piscitelli Goalkeeper
19 Gianluca Zambrotta Defender
5 Philippe Mexes Defender
77 Luca Antonini Defender
30 Didac Vila Defender
13 Alessandro Nesta Defender
20 Ignazio Abate Defender
52 Mattia De Sciglio Defender
- Ricardo Ferreira Defender
15 Djamel Mesbah Defender
76 Mario Alberto Yepes Defender
33 Thiago Silva Defender
25 Daniele Bonera Defender
18 Alberto Aquilani Midfielder
23 Massimo Ambrosini Midfielder
22 Antonio Nocerino Midfielder
27 Kevin-Prince Boateng Midfielder
28 Urby Emanuelson Midfielder
34 Bryan Cristante Midfielder
52 Alexander Merkel Midfielder
?? Kwadho Asamoah Midfielder
54 Simone Calvano Midfielder
16 Mathieu Flamini Midfielder
[color=blue]57 Mattia Valoti Midfielder
10 Clarence Seedorf Midfielder
4 Mark van Bommel Midfielder
11 Sulley Ali Muntari Midfielder
?? AM OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL)
14 Rodney Strasser Midfielder
8 Gennaro Ivan Gattuso Midfielder
21 Maxi López Striker
92 Stephan El Shaarawy Striker
7 Alexandre Pato Striker
?? ST OF PREFERED MILANISTAS CHOICE (I DONT KNOW WHO TO PUT LOL) SOMEBODY IS THE STYLE OF MAXI BUT WITH WAYYYYY MORE TALENT
9 Filippo Inzaghi Striker i love you so much but its reality
11 Zlatan Ibrahimovic Striker
56 Simone Andrea Ganz Striker
70 Robinho Striker
99 Antonio Cassano Striker

you suggest 11 players should leave Milan . 11. You do realise that it's almost impossible to let go of 11 players & all in one summer . Even if we could , it would only harm the team rather benefit from it. And you replace them with 4(2 unknown so far....) new players and 6 youngsters.!! Half the team wouldn't know each other .. no real chemistry or team base , just become a new M.City. The core of Milan and our most experienced players in Gattuso , Ambrosini ,Inzaghi and Seedorf will be gone and will be replaced by Strasser , Valoti , Ganz and Cristante?!

In other words , your "plan" is pure BS.
If it were to happen , we would fight for 4th-5th-6th place in the standings and Ibra and very possibly Silva might have left next summer because of bad project.

-

You don't built a team to dominate Europe or to win Barcelona, you built a team to win the league and become stronger each year , because of a certain project that suits the goals of the team and the abilities of the team.
If the CL is on the cards at some point , then you go for it. No team manifuctured a dream team on paper and went on to win it , none. ( Pes and Fifa doesn't count )

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u should read before comment but u dont look very smart right now

red = LEAVE
blue = LOAN OUT to another Serie A team or involve in player swap transfers wtv..

where does it says im bringing in youngsters??? valoti? cristante? r u serious?? u think im gonna promote a 16 yr old cristante to take the place of a seedorf lets say? do i look like a fkin retard to u or what?

green = NEW PLAYERS ARRIVING. get it now?

we have a gigantic squad so yes even if 11 leave and only 4 arrive whats the problem?? the 11 that i wanna see leave are either very old and gave everything they got and we dont need them anymore or they suck.

gattuso? love him but finished
seedorf? same thing
inzaghi? my idol but 39 yrs
ambro? 35, finished
bonera? sucks
mesbah? sucks
roma? who cares
zambrotta? loved him but is done unfortunatly
Lopez? sucks... waste from the beginning
all theres left is flamini and muntari, say we keep even 1 of the 2, its still 10 players that got to go. is my plan still dumb now if u look at it that way?

abbiati,amelia,piscitelli,abate,antonini,nesta,silva,yepes,mexes,NEW CB,Didac Vila, NEW LB, van bommel,aquilani,boateng,nocerino,emanuelson,merkel, NEW DM flamini OR muntari, NEW AM, ibra,pato,robinho,el shaarawy,cassano, NEW FW

and that = to 27 players.. perfect team, with the new additions should more than imrpove our starting 11. excellent depth everywhere incase on injuries or players needing rest. and we got rid of all kinds of deadweight and contracts.

does it still look pure BS Mr.Dante?

i cant beleive you guys want ambrosini, seedorf and gattuso out.... show some faith thee guys have played so well for us. Also you have to consider those guys will only leave when they want to go, after all they are our captains and crucial in the locker room

thats the problem giovanni_milan, do u really think i hate gattuso,seedorf and ambro? absolutely not, i will always love them with all my heart! they are of legendary status. but fact of the matter is, when its time to turn the page its gotta be done!, if u keep going with that attitude of have faith have this have that, well never get anywhere! face the facts, as much as it pains me to say, but the longer we hold on to these players the more we are going backwards in our progression as a team. turn a new leaf in our rich history, heck if Madrid can do it, and Juve will do it when they let Del Piero go, we can do it also. yes i know we are MILAN and we are a family like no other. but its gotta be done. no choice. wanna win CL? wanna be top of the world again? these are all things that have to be done my friend

Who better to lead this team right now? they can all put solid performances is rested properly.... obviously we need better, but dumping them to the side is not the milan way... we need players and role models like these in the dressing room to help usher in a new generation, and only then can we say goodbye