Re: Rank these center defenders.

by Lex Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:29 pm

You love to contradict yourself, don't you

by The Franchise Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:30 pm

What good is Terry's "experience" when player are running in behind him and he doesnt have the speed to recover?

You can play down Pepe's lunancy all you like, the man is a pressure waiting to get carried away and kick someone in the back.

Bottom line, those 2 are far closer in ability to Vermaelen than they are to Thiago Silva.

by Travis_RM_91 Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:33 pm

The Franchise wrote:What good is Terry's "experience" when player are running in behind him and he doesnt have the speed to recover?

You can play down Pepe's lunancy all you like, the man is a pressure waiting to get carried away and kick someone in the back.

Bottom line, those 2 are far closer in ability to Vermaelen than they are to Thiago Silva.

Clearly you don't play 2 John Terrys, you need a player who can make the recovery tackle, but his positioning means he doesn't get compromised in that way as often as you'd think.

by RealGunner Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:40 pm

Travis_RM_91 wrote:
Lex wrote:You know, strict discipline is as big a part of a defender's make-up as.....whatever it is you think makes everyone a better defender than Vermaelen and Pepe's disciplinary record is utter trash. The guy is a psycho. Mentally unstable.

You watch Pepe how many times a year? 40? 50? or just 4 games vs Barcelona?

Vermealens discipline with regards to positioning, wandering and keeping a solid place in the line leaves a lot to be desired. Forget Pepe, Chiellini and Thiago have been completely insulted by being placed on a list with Vermaelen lol.

How many times do you watch vermaelen every year ? 40 ? 50? or just the big matches ?

What you said is utter bullshit about him. The only reason the myth of him being out of position exist is because of the tactics wenger deployed last year. And you are clearly living in the past or reading BS comments on goal.com or what the meda fills you with.

by The Franchise Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:41 pm

Except, indeed he does get exposed because the covering defender doesnt always make it/ is out of the play.

Classic example, Benfica game.

David Luiz comes up to close an opponant, someone plays it over the top and Cardozo get in behind...his left foot was tame from a akward angle..but this is common place.

by Travis_RM_91 Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:42 pm

Well that's probably more the fault of David Luiz more than John Terry.

by The Franchise Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:49 pm

No, it isnt.

Luiz has to come out from the back if he got a player free running at goal from 30m out.

If Terry wasnt slow, there wouldnt of been a problem.

by guest7 Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:20 pm

Mascherano just fked up the offside trap for Nocerinos goal

As expected, someone who was a DM previously doesn't know the positioning of a CB

by manlio Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:35 am

Silva
Pique
Chiellini
Vidic
Terry
Vermaelen
Hummels
Pepe

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