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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
since guardiola has managed / played / won in mostly only one league , jiopsi's post makes sense since this will help him win
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
jiopsi wrote:Well, Di Stefano is usually considered as Argentinian first.Saetablanca wrote:Wait, seeing as Di Stefano won the Ballon d'Or, and it was only open to European players, means that he won it being considered as a Spaniard. So why dont they consider that when they say that only Luis Suarez of Barca was the only Spaniard to ever win the Ballon d'Or?
jiopsi wrote:Well, Di Stefano is usually considered as Argentinian first.Saetablanca wrote:Wait, seeing as Di Stefano won the Ballon d'Or, and it was only open to European players, means that he won it being considered as a Spaniard. So why dont they consider that when they say that only Luis Suarez of Barca was the only Spaniard to ever win the Ballon d'Or?
Argentinians could not win the Ballon d'Or. Therefore, Di Stefano won it as a Spaniard. Therefore, two and not one Spaniards won the Ballon d'Or.
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Argentinian could win Ballon d'Or if he had Spanish citizenship and played in Europe.jiopsi wrote:Well, Di Stefano is usually considered as Argentinian first.Saetablanca wrote:Wait, seeing as Di Stefano won the Ballon d'Or, and it was only open to European players, means that he won it being considered as a Spaniard. So why dont they consider that when they say that only Luis Suarez of Barca was the only Spaniard to ever win the Ballon d'Or?
Argentinians could not win the Ballon d'Or. Therefore, Di Stefano won it as a Spaniard. Therefore, two and not one Spaniards won the Ballon d'Or.
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
jiopsi wrote:Argentinian could win Ballon d'Or if he had Spanish citizenship and played in Europe.jiopsi wrote:Well, Di Stefano is usually considered as Argentinian first.Saetablanca wrote:Wait, seeing as Di Stefano won the Ballon d'Or, and it was only open to European players, means that he won it being considered as a Spaniard. So why dont they consider that when they say that only Luis Suarez of Barca was the only Spaniard to ever win the Ballon d'Or?
Argentinians could not win the Ballon d'Or. Therefore, Di Stefano won it as a Spaniard. Therefore, two and not one Spaniards won the Ballon d'Or.
Your point?
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
In what?Saetablanca wrote:jiopsi wrote:Argentinian could win Ballon d'Or if he had Spanish citizenship and played in Europe.jiopsi wrote:Well, Di Stefano is usually considered as Argentinian first.Saetablanca wrote:Wait, seeing as Di Stefano won the Ballon d'Or, and it was only open to European players, means that he won it being considered as a Spaniard. So why dont they consider that when they say that only Luis Suarez of Barca was the only Spaniard to ever win the Ballon d'Or?
Argentinians could not win the Ballon d'Or. Therefore, Di Stefano won it as a Spaniard. Therefore, two and not one Spaniards won the Ballon d'Or.
Your point?
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Saeta Di Stefano was Argentine... come on. So was Sivori. It doesn't matter if having a dual citizenship, if you ask both of them they would both answer that they consider themselves more Argentine than the other.
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
I know Di Stefano is always considered more Argentine than Spanish, thats not something I am trying to dispute. However, if he won the Ballon d'Or thanks to him ALSO being 'Spanish', then IMO they should consider the awards won for Spain too. Its just a passing observation, forget it if youy want.
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Try Del Bosque
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
8, 2 as player, 6 as manager. Though he has chanche to make it 7 as first manager, if Spain wins Euro 12.H.A. wrote:Try Del Bosque
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Just remembered that Del Bosque became the most completely decorated manager of football in Euro's.jiopsi wrote:8, 2 as player, 6 as manager. Though he has chance to make it 7 as first manager, if Spain wins Euro 12.H.A. wrote:Try Del Bosque
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