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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:51 pm

The box-to-box midfield can both win the ball and carry the attack forward. Able to tackle and pass effectively, they can run all day and stamina is their most important asset. As their name suggests this allows them to shuttle back and forward, covering a lot of ground and acting almost as two players in one. They are the closest thing to the 'complete midfielder'. This player can act as a driving force for all of the team and the box-to-box midefielder is invloved in the heart of the action. Their most telling contribution is often their running off the ball arriving late in the box at the end of a well timed run to strike the ball and hit the back of the net. Their versatility means that this player can also be deployed as either a defensive midfilder or an attacking midfielder and they often excel in these positions too (for example Gerrard for Liverpool in 2008/09 (AM) or Ballack for Chelsea in 2009/10 (DM)).

he origin of this player is probably the attacking centre-half in the 2-3-5 formation. Since then the popularity of this player has varied according to prevailing tactics of the time. The W-M system divided the midfield into defensive and attacking players, which didn't really suit this flexible role. The modern version of the box-box midfielder came of age with the advent of the 4-4-2 system developed by Alf Ramsey in which midfielders became all purpose players that had to both defend and attack (think Peters and Ball). Since then the box-to-box midfielder remains an important tradition English game (maybe too important when it comes to international football). The total football of Holland and the system of Sacchi's Milan also valued the multi-purpose midfidler (i.e. Ancelotti and Neeskens). Today, with the advent of 4-2-3-1 maybe the box-to-box midfielder is starting to be phased out again. Although it is still well used in Chelsea's 4-3-3 with two box-to-box midfielders either side of a holding player (for an interesting article on this subject see here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/apr/22/where-have-box-to-box-midfielders-gone.

who are currently the best players in that role?
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:53 pm

Vidal?

Javi Martinez Obviously.

Edit: I dunno what Wilshire is, but Judging from his performances against Barca......
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:54 pm

Javi is currently playing CB so i wouldnt put him in there although he can be a brilliant player in that role.


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Post by EarlyPrototype Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:55 pm

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Post by S Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:55 pm

Bastian Schweinsteiger./thread
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:57 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Javi is currently playing CB so i wouldnt put him in there although he ca be a brilliant player in that role.

Is he seriously playing CB regularly?

Bielsa-tsk tsk tsk.....
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Post by Lord Hades Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:58 pm

he is being wasted as cb lolita


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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:00 pm

Wasted? i dont know, he is allowing Bilbao to play the way they do right now, and he has been pretty good. I do know that he wants to return as CM tho, but Bielsa wont have it Laughing
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Post by Swanhends Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:01 pm

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Post by EarlyPrototype Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:02 pm

Khedira :coffee:
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:03 pm

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Post by Lord Hades Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:11 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Wasted? i dont know, he is allowing Bilbao to play the way they do right now, and he has been pretty good. I do know that he wants to return as CM tho, but Bielsa wont have it Laughing

wasted in the sense that i think he would be more effective as a cm, not that he has been bad as cb or something
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Post by M99 Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:16 pm

Michel Bastos best Box to Box midfielders today? Lucasl
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:18 pm

Corentrao :study:
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Post by DRK Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:20 pm

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Post by lenear1030 Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:35 pm

Le Samourai wrote:Corentrao :study:


box to box left back. :coffee:
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Post by RealGunner Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:47 pm

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Post by zizzle Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:47 pm

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Post by The Franchise Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:28 pm

Javi Martinez at the back is a good thing for me.

If Bilbao want possession you need to be able to pass at the back and he can certainly do that.

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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:31 pm

Bastian Schweinsteiger.
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Post by Adit Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:39 pm

Only a few teams play with B2B players now days.These B2B player is more commonly used in 442 and teams nowdays playing that formation is rare.

Manutd some times plays with a B2B midfielder but thats it imo,most teams play with overlapping wing backs with Deep play makers and defensive minded players.

The role of Box to box midfielder has indeed took over by wing backs with the introduction of deep laying play makers who sits around the circle and feeds wingers and AMs.

Its weird that in the 90s we had old school fullbacks coupled with B2B midfielders but now we have Play makers coupled with attacking wing backs.
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Post by The Franchise Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:13 pm

There are still players who play this type of role without playing a 442 Adit.

And even more who, back when they were more commonly used would of been that type.
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Post by Charrua Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:21 pm

inler
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Scweni?? is he really b2b
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isla when played there?
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:07 pm

Alex Song, Gargano, Schweinsteiger, Vidal.

Choose one.
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Post by Yeezus Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:08 pm

Arturo Vidal.

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