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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sun 11 Dec 2011 - 23:01


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Post by the xcx Sun 11 Dec 2011 - 23:03

Well deserved.
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Post by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Sun 11 Dec 2011 - 23:09

Shocked ouch

reminds me of the attack Barton did in Ethu a few years ago, Sad which he didnt even get carded for IIRC

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Post by CBarca Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 1:14

Oww.

What a dick (no pun intended)
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Post by Lex Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 4:33

Playing devil's advocate here, but I don't think that was intentional
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Post by kiranr Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 4:40


It is intentional Lex. He hangs his leg there longer than what was necessary. He knew what he was doing. But red is a little harsh for that i think.
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Post by CBarca Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 4:46

kiranr wrote:
It is intentional Lex. He hangs his leg there longer than what was necessary. He knew what he was doing. But red is a little harsh for that i think.

IMO counts as serious violent conduct, which is a red.

If you're going to kick a guy in the balls, intentionally...you should get a red.
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Post by Omniscient Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 4:47

kiranr wrote:
It is intentional Lex. He hangs his leg there longer than what was necessary. He knew what he was doing. But red is a little harsh for that i think.

I don't think it's intentional. The only reason it looks like the leg was hanging there longer than necessary is because of the slow-motion, in real time that incident happened in a split second and I highly doubt he could move his leg in time.

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Post by VanDeezNuts Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 4:51

Omniscient wrote:
kiranr wrote:
It is intentional Lex. He hangs his leg there longer than what was necessary. He knew what he was doing. But red is a little harsh for that i think.

I don't think it's intentional. The only reason it looks like the leg was hanging there longer than necessary is because of the slow-motion, in real time that incident happened in a split second and I highly doubt he could move his leg in time.

i agree

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Post by kiranr Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 4:53

Omniscient wrote:
I don't think it's intentional. The only reason it looks like the leg was hanging there longer than necessary is because of the slow-motion, in real time that incident happened in a split second and I highly doubt he could move his leg in time.

It could be. I had that doubt. But the way he brought his leg down in the follow through just seemed unnatural to me. If it was a natural follow through his leg would have come down relatively faster. I may be wrong though, so i am only leaning towards intentional.

Cbarca, a red is too harsh for that considering he got the ball. All violent conducts are not given red. A lot of the am given yellow, this could have been one such.
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Post by CBarca Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 4:59

Cbarca, a red is too harsh for that considering he got the ball. All violent conducts are not given red. A lot of the am given yellow, this could have been one such.

Getting the ball is NOT any sort of influence when it comes to violent conduct.

I don't care if you get the ball, if you two-legged lunge from behind (obvious example of violent conduct) i don't give a crap whether you get the ball or not, you're endangering someones career with a horrifying tackle, that's a red.

Getting someone in the family jewels is not as bad, and I don't care if he got the ball. Violent conduct is violent conduct. Everytime you're raising your leg that high with an opposing player around, you are risking getting a yellow or red. In this case I think it's a red (I don't think it's natural, I think he could have easily brought his leg down a bit earlier).

Then there is the potential for anger and retaliation. If you're not giving this dangerous player a red for getting another guy in the balls...what do the players think? HEY THIS GUY DOESN'T GIVE CARDS OUT EASILY...LETS TACKLE HARDER. It's partly about people control. Sometimes giving a red (in this case justified) is the best way to keep the teams in control.
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Post by Omniscient Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 5:07

That wasn't extreme violent conduct deserving of a straight red in my opinion, assuming that the crotch kick wasn't intentional. If his foot was a few inches off and hit the guy in the leg, nobody would've thought much of it.

This is deserving of a straight red:


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Post by CBarca Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 5:10

Omniscient wrote:That wasn't extreme violent conduct deserving of a straight red in my opinion, assuming that the crotch kick wasn't intentional. If his foot was a few inches off and hit the guy in the leg, nobody would've thought much of it.

This is deserving of a straight red:


Violent conduct doesn't have to be extreme. But it depends on the force and intentions if it were just a few inches off the ground and hit his leg. There are a lot of factors that come into play.

Yes that is deserving of a straight red. He did get the ball, but once again, it doesn't matter. If you're up that high with your feet (near his head) then that is a straight red. Especially considering the velocity he came in at.
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Post by zizzle Mon 12 Dec 2011 - 6:11

The leg doesnt just hang there, but it moves towards the direction of the poor guys's package. well deserved imo
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