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Post by Onyx Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:00 pm

He did well at Ajax too and did alright last season. Similar to how Benzema did for Lyon.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:05 pm

That's the thing MT compares him to Aguero and Benz.

Both have been poor this season, i'm of the opinion you don't hold fixed opinions based on talent levels and rate players on what they are actually producing right now.

Suarez is head and shoulders above both of them at the moment as are a lot of strikers at the moment.

Who knows next season he might suffer a dip, but right now along with Cavani, SES, Reus, Falcao he is one of the most desirable forwards in Europe's top 4 leagues.

Don't count Messi, CR and RVP as i consider them untouchable.

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Post by futbol Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:08 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:He did well at Ajax too and did alright last season. Similar to how Benzema did for Lyon.

Not to mention that he's doing superbly for Uruguay. He should join Barca. Suarez vs. Pepe. Proud

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Post by sportsczy Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:08 pm

Dutch league is very weak (no offense). And Benzema molested CL and big teams while at Lyon all before the age of 21. Ligue is also much better than the dutch league; Madrid and others were investing in upside with Benz... Suarez is already 26. Very good player, no doubt. But his first year at Liverpool was not good at all. This is his break out year in a good league.

I just don't trust EPL tbh. Tactics are too meh to really judge.
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Post by futbol Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:09 pm

sportsczy wrote:And Benzema molested CL and big teams and underage girls while at Lyon all before the age of 21.

Fixed. :coffee:

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Post by Onyx Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:26 pm

Well Portuguese league isn't rated all that highly either and that's where Falcao played.

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:32 pm

Suarez is a top player, would improve any team. Really hate his antics though, would be a tough thing to get over if he moved to a club I supported, but his ability is unquestionable.

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Post by RealGunner Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:36 pm

Suarez is a borderline Word class player if not world class. I am with mt on this one.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:38 pm

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Yohan Modric wrote:Well Portuguese league isn't rated all that highly either and that's where Falcao played.

come on. just look at uefa coefficients. the dutch league is 9th behind such leagues as Ukraine and Russia. It's a really terrible league, which is a shame. It used to be decent.

It's actually doing better now than the years Suarez was there lol.


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Post by justin77 Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:39 pm

RVP isn't untouchable, he only does good in the EPL. In the Champions League, he's a no-show. and for his national team as well, but you could kind of say that about both Messi and CR.

Anyways, I highly doubt Suarez will leave Liverpool this season. Next season, yes, if they fail to qualify for the CL.

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Post by sportsczy Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:45 pm

RealGunner wrote:Suarez is a borderline Word class player if not world class. I am with mt on this one.

He's having a wc year in EPL. You had Demba Ba, Bent, Carroll and others have really good years too. He's more talented than those guys. BuT my point is that i won't overrate a player on his performance in one year, without CL and on a mid table team. If he were in his early 20s, i'd be a lot more excited. But he's not... so i tend to get more cautious. if he has a similar year next year, then yes.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:51 pm

justin77 wrote:RVP isn't untouchable, he only does good in the EPL. In the Champions League, he's a no-show. and for his national team as well, but you could kind of say that about both Messi and CR.

Anyways, I highly doubt Suarez will leave Liverpool this season. Next season, yes, if they fail to qualify for the CL.

I meant as in Man U won't sell him and he won't leave.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:54 pm

thing is mou, there are players like Aguero or Benzema for which you cant talk about potential because we have seen it in a consistent basis before. So you know it's actual reality in their cases

it's not the same as talking about say Balotelli who has never produced anything in his career, yet touted as the most talented guy around. that's a waste of everyone time.

it's easy to see when top players are having dips in form. pretty sure even if RVP wasnt scoring as much as last year you would still want him badly in your team, because you know he has got the goods.
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Post by RealGunner Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:56 pm

justin77 wrote:RVP isn't untouchable, he only does good in the EPL. In the Champions League, he's a no-show. and for his national team as well, but you could kind of say that about both Messi and CR.

Anyways, I highly doubt Suarez will leave Liverpool this season. Next season, yes, if they fail to qualify for the CL.

holy crap is that you ? THE justin77 ?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:57 pm

I'd have Callejon in my team tbf Laughing
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:59 pm

who is justin77 RG is talking about?
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Post by RealGunner Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:00 pm

Used to be a regular poster back in Lithium/Vbulletin. You don't remember ?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:01 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'd have Callejon in my team tbf Laughing
well, Hala did say before that Callejon would be a success at barca, so i understand you want him in your team
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:02 pm

RealGunner wrote:Used to be a regular poster back in Lithium/Vbulletin. You don't remember ?

just tidbits, thinking about it, the name is familiar
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:03 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'd have Callejon in my team tbf Laughing
well, Hala did say before that Callejon would be a success at barca, so i understand you want him in your team

More to do with the fact he would be competing with Obertan and Jonas tbh Laughing

He would look like Barca level by comparison.
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Post by Onyx Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:14 pm

Suarez has had good seasons before this season too. He's getting better every season.

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Post by justin77 Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:06 pm

@greatsprucenuce Ok, yeah, agree with you there.

@realgunner. No. I have no idea who are talking about, lol! Wink

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Post by RedOranje Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:06 am

Shock and horror !

The player states that his words were twisted and yet no-one bothers to post that in this thread!

"I'm sad to read these things. When it's in England I accept it and understand, but I do not expect my words to be twisted over here"

"I'm sad with the way periodicals treat my words. I will stop talking if they keep doing so."
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Post by stevieg8 Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:14 am

Couldn't figure out how to link it from my phone, RedO. He came out immediately to say they misrepresented it and he's not leaving. So I guess words are speaking louder than words right now.
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Post by Red Alert Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:10 am

He'd be stupid not to consider a move tbf.

Don't see him moving myself. As Red and stevie said, he's already squashed the rumours.
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Post by McAgger Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:53 am

Suarez assaults a woman Proud I except all the British media to get on his back soon because of this :coffee:



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