Luca wrote:Giovinco did deserve more, he will get his chance soon.
Krasic deserves more, much more. At least he is young enough to still get it, even with another club.

meh turning 28 soon I believe

DeviAngel wrote:

But yet thats the truth bro ....

Pepe is most underrated player this season along with Vidal and Licht

Just like Marchisio this summer and Giovinco in the past.

However, Vidal is not underrated...

Lich and Pepe, work their asses off, however I don't like those type of players with hardly any skill. Thats just me though

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

But yet thats the truth bro ....

Pepe is most underrated player this season along with Vidal and Licht

Just like Marchisio this summer and Giovinco in the past.

However, Vidal is not underrated...

Lich and Pepe, work their asses off, however I don't like those type of players with hardly any skill. Thats just me though

Common licht has amazing ball control he proved in Palermo game , PArma game he is very good with ball his crosses were not ok but seems they improved ...his ball control is godlike

Lich can't push forward well, Granted... I will admit he had an amazing game yesterday. His vision for Matri was class, even his pass for Pirlo. That being said, it was one game. Maybe a fluke, maybe I'm wrong. Right now, I'm not convinced... I will admit I was impress. But it's one game, so I won't go to conclusions now

Maybe a fluke, or maybe he is now more comfortable, maybe he was allowed more freedom against Palermo than in past games, I mean looking at how forward Chiellini even was at times.

Funnily enough both him and Chiellini provided assists in Juventus' BEST wing display of the season and the best since Milos of last season.

Chiellini out of all people :lol!:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Lich can't push forward well, Granted... I will admit he had an amazing game yesterday. His vision for Matri was class, even his pass for Pirlo. That being said, it was one game. Maybe a fluke, maybe I'm wrong. Right now, I'm not convinced... I will admit I was impress. But it's one game, so I won't go to conclusions now

Lich is actually great at pushing forward.....

he lacks consistency in quality crosses

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Chiellini out of all people :lol!:

I know, right? but he is brilliant

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Lich can't push forward well, Granted... I will admit he had an amazing game yesterday. His vision for Matri was class, even his pass for Pirlo. That being said, it was one game. Maybe a fluke, maybe I'm wrong. Right now, I'm not convinced... I will admit I was impress. But it's one game, so I won't go to conclusions now

Lich is actually great at pushing forward.....

he lacks consistency in quality crosses

Yes I know he can run up the flank, pushing forward means his end product.

DeviAngel wrote:Krasic is more needed than Balotelli

way to go Conte first stupid msitake u did .... way to go

how u could sit there and see krasic shit all over himself from since january and call selling him a mistake? he is a very limited player and quite frankly not the type that is needed. remove all the sentiment and think objectively.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Lich can't push forward well, Granted... I will admit he had an amazing game yesterday. His vision for Matri was class, even his pass for Pirlo. That being said, it was one game. Maybe a fluke, maybe I'm wrong. Right now, I'm not convinced... I will admit I was impress. But it's one game, so I won't go to conclusions now

Lich is actually great at pushing forward.....

he lacks consistency in quality crosses

Yes I know he can run up the flank, pushing forward means his end product.

Actually, pushing forward doesn't really mean end product.... but I am guessing that is what you meant so yeah, his crosses havent been the best.

juventrini wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:Krasic is more needed than Balotelli

way to go Conte first stupid msitake u did .... way to go

how u could sit there and see krasic shit all over himself from since january and call selling him a mistake? he is a very limited player and quite frankly not the type that is needed. remove all the sentiment and think objectively.

In that case he should have been sold in the summer as the offers were there, if that is truly how you feel, I cannot say I feel the same way- he did play poorly but if Juventus were selling players based on their performances from January-on last season then there would be about three or four players on the team right now.

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:Krasic is more needed than Balotelli

way to go Conte first stupid msitake u did .... way to go

First stupid mistake?

1) Not playing Elia, and using Pepe and Giac instead
2) He hardly uses Del Piero and when is used, he uses him as a Prima Punta
3) Rejecting Ziegler
4) Finally giving Quagliarella a chance

Now of course, I'm not bashing Conte, it's not the point he's doing great. But that is not his first stupid mistake.

You are bashing Conte....


How can you call any of those MISTAKES when we are IN FIRST PLACE!!!!!

If Conte did what you said most likely we wouldnt be in first. You live in the world of 'what ifs' as opposed to what is. We are in first place ffs how is he making stupid mistakes?

1) Pepe has been performing, that is why he is playing. Giacc was starting to do the same before the injury.
2) Del Piero doesnt have the legs to play any other position.
3) This could be the one thing you MIGHT be able to call a mistake. But maybe Juventus wanted to instant profit and had faith in PDC and Grosso. Oh well, we are surviving.
4) Matri is on fire, Vucinic is improving, Quag has been training to get back in form.

top top top post my man

Another aspect of.this saga is... How do we know the agent isn't trying to hoodwink us AND krasic? How do at know he is.saying this with his permission or not twisting in his.words...

How.do we know.he is.acting in the players best interest?

I guess there is always a possibility but his words make a lot of sense, so naturally I am inclined to believe them.

Luca wrote:

juventrini wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:Krasic is more needed than Balotelli

way to go Conte first stupid msitake u did .... way to go

how u could sit there and see krasic shit all over himself from since january and call selling him a mistake? he is a very limited player and quite frankly not the type that is needed. remove all the sentiment and think objectively.

In that case he should have been sold in the summer as the offers were there, if that is truly how you feel, I cannot say I feel the same way- he did play poorly but if Juventus were selling players based on their performances from January-on last season then there would be about three or four players on the team right now.

of course we couldnt sell him summer...we needed to see what he had to offer after getting some needed rest and under a new coach even more so...im afraid his performances just confirms that he should be shipped away...not saying that he is a bad player but...not suited to what the coach wants...

Not sure if I agree based on how little we have seen him and he is a player who needs to play and be believed in to really get going.
I do agree that he is not suited to what the coach wants, that is clear.

Fair enough, it is really going to pain me to see him go but it is inevitable.
I even put a jersey with his name on it

Luca wrote:Not sure if I agree based on how little we have seen him and he is a player who needs to play and be believed in to really get going.
I do agree that he is not suited to what the coach wants, that is clear.

Fair enough, it is really going to pain me to see him go but it is inevitable.
I even put a jersey with his name on it

yea he's a cool and likeable guy but u cant blame juventus fans for our general lack of patience...dont care how they come or who brings it but all we want is to be collecting 3pts every weekend until we get back to where we belong..

Well, Juventus have already dropped points...
It is also about the long term, I mean just looking at this season. Juventus have not played all 19 teams yet so lets not get ahead of ourselves (paraphrasing Conte here).

DeviAngel wrote:

pasquale22 wrote:So leave.... You played 5 good games with us . The rest? Just as poor as anyone. Completely invisible. I told you guys this weeks ago.

Krasic out Schelotto in

Thats very ungrateful. He was the reason we finished 7th not 12-15th. Him and his assists in the first half of the season and the few in the 2nd half. His goals. His speed.

He payed with his own cash to arrive for first training and he loves us and never insulted the club or the fans.

This is ...damn If he was italian it would be different story I am sure (general talk not about u pasquale)

ungrateful? the reason we finished 7th not 15th? well if we didnt have such a great start to the season due to the form of many players....Bonucci, Chiellini storari quag marchisio and krasic then yeh your right however krasic dip in form as well as the others is the reason we fall so low. lets not forget krasic was starting to slide heading into december.

diego had a better year than krasic if you ask me. i miss diego, krasic? i wont miss at all. i was never his biggest fan, on his day he can be as damaging as anyone in world football however he just doesnt cut it anymore. and sciacca i was bashing krasic from before the season pretty much even started lol remember that fight with elm i had? it was over krasic. i said pepe should start ahead of him, they all bashed me at the time and 10 weeks later krasic isnt even in the squad whilst pepe starts 9 games and is called up for la nazionale

Pepe is still mediocre though.

id like to make a few points..

-first of all. lich could pretty much cut it for any team right now. he is getting close to world class. i hated him last year at lazio but ive grown to love the player he is. he's incredible and exactly what you want in a team. i wanted cassani over lich but there was always that though in my head that lich would be a better buy.

-his crossing is improving, hes provided some vital crosses last few weeks and against palermo... why was pepe's role so free? because lich covered RM the whole first half whilst pepe got inside playing almost a SS role which can also be seen through his goal

- im a big fan of elia but i dont however think he's all together the greatest footballer if u get what i mean? quote me where i have ever said elia will be a success ? never happened. i was excited at what elia could potentially bring to juve not what he would bring.
am i bitter at the fact he isnt getting any gametime? not really. i say not really because yes i would love to see him play more however i dont think conte has been in a position to use him however against palermo i was dieing to see him but then again quag was due to come back, pazienza to tie up 3 points and ale deserves all the playing time he gets. theres nothing more id like to see then elia start however he hasnt earned his chance yet and conte hasnt been in a position to utilise him yet. this is coming from possibly elia's biggest fan! im a realist

Luca wrote:Pepe is still mediocre though.

/thread

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

But yet thats the truth bro ....

Pepe is most underrated player this season along with Vidal and Licht

Just like Marchisio this summer and Giovinco in the past.

However, Vidal is not underrated...

Lich and Pepe, work their asses off, however I don't like those type of players with hardly any skill. Thats just me though

I don't think people understand his importance because his football isn't the pretty type.

All fair points, against Palermo I believe Conte gave more freedom to Chiellini and Lichtsteiner to move forward and Lichtsteiner bossed everybody.

I am sad about players like Elia, Krasic, Del Piero and Quagliarella- this is not because the team fielded does not put out because they do, I would just like to see what these players can do and this FANTASTIC depth ought to be used more.

fkn Conte doesn't think like we do Luca.....

its over for Elia and Krasic...... flip page oh Quags too,,,