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Post by juventus101 Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:49 am

If Ronaldinho was still in his prime, still in his mid 20s, etc (but was still sold a few years back), would you take him back? The catch is, if you get Dinho back, you lose Messi. What would you do? Same thing goes for Deco, in place of Xavi...what would you do there?

Personally, if I was a barca fan I would take Ronnie back, but not Deco. The problem is Ronnies partying and irresponsibility, but still, its RONALDINHO in his prime.
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:13 am

Messi is better than Ronaldinho and hes not even at his peak yet, the kid is 23 years old, he has 10 years of top flight football ahead of him. Ronaldinho was an incredible player but Messi is already being and has been compared to the likes of Maradona and Pele at 23 years old ffs.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:27 am

I still don't think Messi will reach or pass Maradona's level, but that's just me :coffee:

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Post by Sushi Master Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:47 am

Ronnie shat all over the chances given to him, in his peak years. I don't know why anyone would change him for consistant, completely football-focused Messi.
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Post by juventus101 Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:49 am

Messi is NOT better than Ronaldinho in his prime. No way in hell, and is not even comparable to maradona pele, etc in my opinion.
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:05 am

juventus101 wrote:Messi is NOT better than Ronaldinho in his prime. No way in hell, and is not even comparable to maradona pele, etc in my opinion.
then why ask the question? Rolling Eyes

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Post by juventus101 Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:53 pm

Because im asking if you would take ronaldinho back, whose better imo, but have to dealwith his irresponsibility, might not have him as long, etc.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:58 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:Messi is better than Ronaldinho and hes not even at his peak yet, the kid is 23 years old, he has 10 years of top flight football ahead of him. Ronaldinho was an incredible player but Messi is already being and has been compared to the likes of Maradona and Pele at 23 years old ffs.

Yh we get it your good but do you have to bad mouth your old friend Ronaldinho and compare yourself to Maradona and Pele?

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Post by C.Marchisio #8 Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:05 pm

Messi any day
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:46 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Messi is better than Ronaldinho and hes not even at his peak yet, the kid is 23 years old, he has 10 years of top flight football ahead of him. Ronaldinho was an incredible player but Messi is already being and has been compared to the likes of Maradona and Pele at 23 years old ffs.

Yh we get it your good but do you have to bad mouth your old friend Ronaldinho and compare yourself to Maradona and Pele?

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huh? I didn't bad mouth him, I was voicing my opinion, I even said Ronaldinho was an incredible player as well as saying that Messi is being compared to Maradona and Pele, never said I compared them

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:23 am

No way. The only think Ronaldinho has over Messi is his confident smile.
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Post by barca 2011 Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:30 am

Well this team has reached its peak ever since the 2008/09 season, and since then we have stayed as one of, if not the best team so I really wouldn't change anything. Keep Messi, and Xavi, but FULL respect to R10 and Deco when they were in their prime. They captivated the football world like none other, and they were a great team, but ATM we are a better team than we were back then. Plus Messi is Messi.
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Post by Khaled Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:32 pm

Ronaldinho was one of the reason i became a Barca fan in 2003/2004!

I loved Barca more becuz of him..but Messi is another story..

Overall Messi is better imo, Messi didn't reach his peak yet too..

- Ronaldinho was more of show man.. his tricks were a reason why alot of people like to watch him& watch Barca.. i remeber when i was like 12->15 i spent hours everyday watching Ronaldinho's vids & trying to make some of his tricks Smile


if we want to compare both :
1- Messi is better finisher
2- Messi is a better dribbler.. the only Goal that Ronaldinho scored by dribbling 3 players was against Real Madrid 2005/2006 ( 3-0 in Berbabeu) which was great.. but Messi does this in every match & every time he has the ball..
3- Playmaking: for now Ronaldinho is better, but Messi is very gd also..
4-Ronaldinho was a party man..which is the opposite to Messi.. Messi just focuses on football!
etc..

I would prefer to have Ronaldinho @ his peak + Messi Smile this would be a better idea Smile

Xavi - Busq - Iniesta

Messi - Eto'o - Ronaldinho @ Peak Twisted Evil
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:19 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Messi is better than Ronaldinho and hes not even at his peak yet, the kid is 23 years old, he has 10 years of top flight football ahead of him. Ronaldinho was an incredible player but Messi is already being and has been compared to the likes of Maradona and Pele at 23 years old ffs.

Yh we get it your good but do you have to bad mouth your old friend Ronaldinho and compare yourself to Maradona and Pele?

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huh? I didn't bad mouth him, I was voicing my opinion, I even said Ronaldinho was an incredible player as well as saying that Messi is being compared to Maradona and Pele, never said I compared them

:lol!: Your called Lionel Messi i was treating your post as if Lionel Messi himself said it :coffee:
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Post by xabi Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:27 pm

dinho rather than lionel bieber.. btw messi is 24
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Post by Mamad Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:40 pm

Messi is consistent. For Barcelona Messi > Ronaldinho.

but as a player, in their prime, Ronaldinho > Messi.

Ronaldinho was amazing.
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Post by Khaled Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:48 pm

xabi wrote:dinho rather than lionel bieber.. btw messi is 24

1- Messi is 23& 355 days old! lol!

2-
2010-2011 STATS: 53 Goals + 28 assists ( this is what Messi did @ 23)

2009-2010 STATS: 47 Goals + 14 Assists ( @ 22 years old)

2008-2009 STATS: 38 Goals + 18 assists ( @ 21 years old)

2007/2008 (20 years old): : Matches: 40, Goals: 16, Assists: 14 + Olympic Games 2008 & that Goal against getafe we all know!

2006/2007 (19 years old): : Matches: 36, Goals: 17, Assists: 3 ( Hat-trick against Real Madrid in Camp Nou)

2005/2006 (18 years old): : Matches: 25, Goals: 8, Assists: 4 ( Including great performance against Chelsea in Stamford bridge 1-2 win!)

2004/2005 (17 years old): : Matches: 9, Goals: 1 + leading Argentina for WC U-20 by scoring 5 goals (topscorer in that tournament)


etc..

`BALLON D'OR

- 2011: ?
- 2010: 1st
- 2009: 1st
- 2008: 2nd
- 2007: 3rd


3-@ 24? we have to wait until next season! Smile
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Post by Albiceleste Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:13 pm

xabi wrote:dinho rather than lionel bieber.. btw messi is 24
get your facts straight kid

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Post by Kev Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:25 am

Man, I feel for you Xabi. You're like 9 days off. In an alternate universe, this topic would've been made two weeks later and you'd be right.

Anyway, as I've said before, Ronaldinho can do things that Messi cannot dream to do. Dinho's arsenal of tricks is like 1000000x the size of Messi's. But Messi is more consistent and effective than Dinho.

Nobody in the history of football could do the things Dinho did in his peak.
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:32 am

Kevacious wrote:

Anyway, as I've said before, Ronaldinho can do things that Messi cannot dream to do. Dinho's arsenal of tricks is like 1000000x the size of Messi's. But Messi is more consistent and effective than Dinho.

Nobody in the history of football could do the things Dinho did in his peak.
Well Messi can do things R10 couldn't dream of doing as well.

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