Luca wrote:It must be more stressful to have Pepe, who can never, ever match his abilities going forward, have his spot in the starting eleven.
It must be even more stressful to have your accomplishments not even one year ago completely forgotten.

It is more beneficial for Krasic to play in my opinion. The form he reached was not a fluke and I can assure you, it might be worse for him to keep going if he is always playing awfully- agreed there its worse for Juventus more so but he will not get going by sitting on the bench.

The only place he is going is to another club in January, I'd bet a lot on that, assuming things stay the way the do. I remember about a month ago how Conte said how important Krasic would be to Juventus, he made interviews a couple times. Now last week he said everyone has their opinions (about who plays) but he is in charge. I take that as a hint.

Krasic
Quagliarella
Alex
Elia

Its sad

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Luca wrote:It must be more stressful to have Pepe, who can never, ever match his abilities going forward, have his spot in the starting eleven.
It must be even more stressful to have your accomplishments not even one year ago completely forgotten.

It is more beneficial for Krasic to play in my opinion. The form he reached was not a fluke and I can assure you, it might be worse for him to keep going if he is always playing awfully- agreed there its worse for Juventus more so but he will not get going by sitting on the bench.

The only place he is going is to another club in January, I'd bet a lot on that, assuming things stay the way the do. I remember about a month ago how Conte said how important Krasic would be to Juventus, he made interviews a couple times. Now last week he said everyone has their opinions (about who plays) but he is in charge. I take that as a hint.

Krasic
Quagliarella
Alex
Elia

Its sad

That hint was in particular reference to ADP, not everyone if you ask me.

It's really a tough call for Conte either way. He has to risk something, and at this point I think he is deciding not to risk our unbeaten run and first place by playing the players who are in form as opposed to players who are supposed to play.

lucianomoggi wrote:

AttacanteBG wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Screw Pepe, I dont want him playing for the national team

I dont get it how Juventino dont apreiciate Pepe?

I can understand you say he lacks creativity, flar or techinque. But to insult player who have great desire to win for club every time he steps on the pitch who gives is 100% for club in every single game is beyond me.

he never make an assist, he never score a goal

so members are right to complain;

Pepe as a winger,had 1 goal,& 1 assist..
While Vucinic supposedly as a SS,had 1 ILLEGAL goal,& 1 assist..

Still,you're sayng that members are right to complain about Pepe ,& from what I'm seeing,many members(don't know about you) are extremely PRAISING Vucinic

Luca wrote:Vucinic has more than one assist, he has two assists to Matri, and two goals...
He also showed how dynamic he can be against Milan but it is still growing.

In either case, we know what Vucinic can do on form
Pepe has no 'on form' what you see is what you get, he will never be a bigger or better player than he has shown probably

tareks wrote:

Luca wrote:Vucinic has more than one assist, he has two assists to Matri, and two goals...
He also showed how dynamic he can be against Milan but it is still growing.

In either case, we know what Vucinic can do on form
Pepe has no 'on form' what you see is what you get, he will never be a bigger or better player than he has shown probably

Sry for the goals,ur right,but as for the assists,only 1 ,I don't give him any vredit forthe 2nd 1.

Plus,about Pepe,it's obvious that all the issue is like talking about someone that you just HATE for some reason,& you don't want to look on what he's giving & offering to the team

Luca wrote:

tareks wrote:

Luca wrote:Vucinic has more than one assist, he has two assists to Matri, and two goals...
He also showed how dynamic he can be against Milan but it is still growing.

In either case, we know what Vucinic can do on form
Pepe has no 'on form' what you see is what you get, he will never be a bigger or better player than he has shown probably

Sry for the goals,ur right,but as for the assists,only 1 ,I don't give him any vredit forthe 2nd 1.

Plus,about Pepe,it's obvious that all the issue is like talking about someone that you just HATE for some reason,& you don't want to look on what he's giving & offering to the team

Players who are praised for their work ethic instead of their ability don't impress me much
Pepe is a soldier, if he was a CM I would believe in him more, but he is a winger and there are better, ability-wise, players that could play instead of him
Hell, even in a 4-3-3 like against Fiorentina, Quagliarella could have had his position.
I prefer players who are praised due to their skill and ability as opposed to their distance covered and back tracking

The best thing you can say about Krasic, he can dribble past three defenders and he is extremely fast
Elia, he is a trickster who can also burn a defender
Quagliarella can score fantastic goals

Pepe, oh, yeah, he can backtrack!

meh, its just not something that excites me
and people praise him for the things he does well but no one mentions his weak points, so I don't like that either

Luca wrote:Well yeah thats what I meant when I said it is his work rate that is praised rather than ability

Ability meaning skill, talent, which of course translates to an end product

Thank you for helping me clarify that, I agree with what you said.

Luca wrote:Well, I know what I meant and so did you, but your contribution will help others as the way I explained it may be confusing/unclear!

Smidhofer wrote:Well the hell why not? If we put it all together Pepe is a good player (looking from objective side) and deserves his place in the squad. But in Juventus I prefere Krasic as a player - he has true Balkan Blood! Agressive fighter i must say

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

Smidhofer wrote:Well the hell why not? If we put it all together Pepe is a good player (looking from objective side) and deserves his place in the squad. But in Juventus I prefere Krasic as a player - he has true Balkan Blood! Agressive fighter i must say

Disagreed. His objective side? What objectives? At the end... he fails most of the time. Meaning none of his objectives for both the player and coach statisfy.

Arquitecto wrote:Can someone tell me why the heck is this Bidone even going to wear a Azzuri shirt again?

And don't tell me because he "works hard"

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:Can someone tell me why the heck is this Bidone even going to wear a Azzuri shirt again?

And don't tell me because he "works hard"

Because he works hard.

Arquitecto wrote:Can someone tell me why the heck is this Bidone even going to wear a Azzuri shirt again?

And don't tell me because he "works hard"

Smidhofer wrote:Well the hell why not? If we put it all together Pepe is a good player (looking from objective side) and deserves his place in the squad. But in Juventus I prefere Krasic as a player - he has true Balkan Blood! Agressive fighter i must say

The_ItalianFool wrote:The Pepe haters dont appreciate how much Pepe's overall game can help the team as a whole.

Running back and being in position makes defending much better and easier on everyone. if there is a hole because our winger did not track back, either the defenders have to compensate by taking more ground or there will be a huge hole on side of the pitch where attacks can come in and penetrate.

The simple act of a player getting back is a great help to any team. Pepe does this for us, and will do so if he is called upon for his country.

I understand the guy is a bit clumsy and doesnt always have the best end product in terms of attacking. But for me, and apparently for Conte and maybe Prandelli, what Pepe offers to a team is great. On top of all this, in recent games Pepe has been improving his attacking.

Forza Pepe. Forza Juve. Forza Italia!